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Reply #60 posted 06/20/05 7:18am

rocknrolldave

p0pstar said:

rocknrolldave said:



i just love the level of serious debate on this site...rolleyes


I was serious you stupid twat



Charming! sad
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Reply #61 posted 06/20/05 7:20am

p0pstar

rocknrolldave said:

p0pstar said:



I was serious you stupid twat



Charming! sad



mr.green

I am arn't I

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Reply #62 posted 06/20/05 7:20am

ella731

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rocknrolldave said:

p0pstar said:



I was serious you stupid twat



Charming! sad



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thank you, thought I was too
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Reply #63 posted 06/20/05 7:20am

Fauxie

AlienX2050 said:

Fauxie said:

I'm so mildly upset right now. Sitting here in my bedroom, bored and alone, while my wife is out down Khao San Road partying away. She went out at lunchtime to meet a friend who's over from the US and is leaving for Chiang Mai tonight. She said she'd be back at 3 or 4pm.

She called me at 5pm and said she wanted to stay out later, but I told her I wanted her to come back before 6pm so that we could have dinner together and watch a DVD. She agreed, but here we are coming up to 9pm and she hasn't come back. I'm starting to hate Khao San Road and in particular bloody Gulliver's Traveller's Tavern. She'll come back around 2am after the bar closes and tomorrow she'll say she's sorry and vow to stop going out.

I can't complain about her otherwise, but she has this one flaw that is so frustrating. She can set out with the best intentions, but she always ends up drinking with her friends and coming home late. Once she's in that bar she's powerless.

I can't call her because we just canceled her contract and are in the process of changing it.

I could have gone with her and we'd have come home together, but I don't particularly like her friend. I want her to be able to go and see her friends in the daytime without her ending up in some bar and staying out all night.

What should I do? sad


Sounds like you need to shut the fuck up and get a life outside of your marriage.

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I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.
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Reply #64 posted 06/20/05 7:21am

rocknrolldave

Fauxie said:

AlienX2050 said:



Sounds like you need to shut the fuck up and get a life outside of your marriage.

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[Edited 6/20/05 7:11am]



I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.




...or you could just follow my example and let it keep happening and just be pissed off about it a lot...? shrug



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Reply #65 posted 06/20/05 7:23am

Fleshofmyflesh

AlienX2050 said:

Fauxie said:

I'm so mildly upset right now. Sitting here in my bedroom, bored and alone, while my wife is out down Khao San Road partying away. She went out at lunchtime to meet a friend who's over from the US and is leaving for Chiang Mai tonight. She said she'd be back at 3 or 4pm.

She called me at 5pm and said she wanted to stay out later, but I told her I wanted her to come back before 6pm so that we could have dinner together and watch a DVD. She agreed, but here we are coming up to 9pm and she hasn't come back. I'm starting to hate Khao San Road and in particular bloody Gulliver's Traveller's Tavern. She'll come back around 2am after the bar closes and tomorrow she'll say she's sorry and vow to stop going out.

I can't complain about her otherwise, but she has this one flaw that is so frustrating. She can set out with the best intentions, but she always ends up drinking with her friends and coming home late. Once she's in that bar she's powerless.

I can't call her because we just canceled her contract and are in the process of changing it.

I could have gone with her and we'd have come home together, but I don't particularly like her friend. I want her to be able to go and see her friends in the daytime without her ending up in some bar and staying out all night.

What should I do? sad


Sounds like you need to shut the fuck up and get a life outside of your marriage.

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You might want to reconsider that psychotherapy office you were going to open...
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Reply #66 posted 06/20/05 7:23am

TheFrog

ella731 said:

no no no!


in my relationship, I may go out like once or twice a month, but I usually go with Chris, but then he knows when Im stressed and tells me he knows I need a night out, and watches the kid (s). There are times that the nights he plays out, and he stay s out to late he knows hes in trouble, and I will let him know, he usually has a good excuse. like since he doesnt drink sometimes he plays DD for everyone


he plays Dungeons & Dragons? confused

----> geek
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Reply #67 posted 06/20/05 7:25am

ella731

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TheFrog said:

ella731 said:

no no no!


in my relationship, I may go out like once or twice a month, but I usually go with Chris, but then he knows when Im stressed and tells me he knows I need a night out, and watches the kid (s). There are times that the nights he plays out, and he stay s out to late he knows hes in trouble, and I will let him know, he usually has a good excuse. like since he doesnt drink sometimes he plays DD for everyone


he plays Dungeons & Dragons? confused

----> geek



Oh NOOOOO I should have clarified Designated Driver



confused Oh wait did you want to ask him to come over and play
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Reply #68 posted 06/20/05 7:26am

TheFrog

ella731 said:

TheFrog said:



he plays Dungeons & Dragons? confused

----> geek



Oh NOOOOO I should have clarified Designated Driver



confused Oh wait did you want to ask him to come over and play


yeah. sad

it's hard to find anyone to play with, when you're a 7th level Cleric like me.
sigh
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Reply #69 posted 06/20/05 7:26am

pippet

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pippet said:

Fauxie...just think how gigglie she is goona be when she get's back...could be an advantage for u...nod....pillow fight and tickle party...

hug rose

ps....I do see the serious side of this too



I said....PILLOW FIGHT

giggle

hug rose
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Reply #70 posted 06/20/05 7:28am

Fauxie

rocknrolldave said:

Fauxie said:




I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.




...or you could just follow my example and let it keep happening and just be pissed off about it a lot...? shrug



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Exactly! lol

A kindred spirit!

My pissed off is more like most peoples' indifferent though. I find it hard to get too upset. She's was always a good girl and all the changes I've seen in her since I met her have been positive. In some ways she's put more in that I have, though she was more of a rough diamond than I. I understand that nobody's perfect. This is an ongoing work in progress like any other relationship and as long as we're moving in the right direction I'm sure we'll get there in the end. If not, I'll just be pissed off about it. biggrin
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Reply #71 posted 06/20/05 7:29am

ella731

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TheFrog said:

ella731 said:




Oh NOOOOO I should have clarified Designated Driver



confused Oh wait did you want to ask him to come over and play


yeah. sad

it's hard to find anyone to play with, when you're a 7th level Cleric like me.
sigh


Froggie last saturday


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Reply #72 posted 06/20/05 7:29am

Fauxie

pippet said:

pippet said:

Fauxie...just think how gigglie she is goona be when she get's back...could be an advantage for u...nod....pillow fight and tickle party...

hug rose

ps....I do see the serious side of this too



I said....PILLOW FIGHT

giggle

hug rose



Hehe. smile We had a fight the other day. No pillows though, just grappling. Needless to say it was a lot of fun. razz I have a massive reach advantage though. It hardly seems fair. She's determined though. nod
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Reply #73 posted 06/20/05 7:31am

pippet

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Fauxie said:

pippet said:




I said....PILLOW FIGHT

giggle

hug rose



Hehe. smile We had a fight the other day. No pillows though, just grappling. Needless to say it was a lot of fun. razz I have a massive reach advantage though. It hardly seems fair. She's determined though. nod


can lead to a very Happy Ending ...whistling

innocent angel

hug rose
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Reply #74 posted 06/20/05 7:32am

Fauxie

pippet said:

Fauxie said:




Hehe. smile We had a fight the other day. No pillows though, just grappling. Needless to say it was a lot of fun. razz I have a massive reach advantage though. It hardly seems fair. She's determined though. nod


can lead to a very Happy Ending ...whistling

innocent angel

hug rose



I was going to use that phrase but it felt a little too AsianBomb for this thread. smile
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Reply #75 posted 06/20/05 7:33am

rocknrollisali
ve

Fauxie said:

rocknrolldave said:





...or you could just follow my example and let it keep happening and just be pissed off about it a lot...? shrug



boxed

Do as I say, not do as I do



Exactly! lol

A kindred spirit!

My pissed off is more like most peoples' indifferent though. I find it hard to get too upset. She's was always a good girl and all the changes I've seen in her since I met her have been positive. In some ways she's put more in that I have, though she was more of a rough diamond than I. I understand that nobody's perfect. This is an ongoing work in progress like any other relationship and as long as we're moving in the right direction I'm sure we'll get there in the end. If not, I'll just be pissed off about it. biggrin



I was trying to think for ages how I wanted to respond to this thread, but it sounds like you just summed the whole thing up right there nod
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Reply #76 posted 06/20/05 7:33am

Fauxie

I welcome all advice, be it from the school of empathy or from those who'd appear, remarkably, to have perfect relationships. smile
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Reply #77 posted 06/20/05 7:33am

pippet

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Fauxie said:

pippet said:



can lead to a very Happy Ending ...whistling

innocent angel

hug rose



I was going to use that phrase but it felt a little too AsianBomb for this thread. smile


redface ...boxed
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Reply #78 posted 06/20/05 7:33am

AlienX2050

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Fauxie said:

AlienX2050 said:



Sounds like you need to shut the fuck up and get a life outside of your marriage.

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[Edited 6/20/05 7:11am]



I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.


Do you think she owes you time or something?

I guess I am being sort of cold here. But if you don't give her room to do what she wants to do, it'll get worse.

Let her do her thing. You don't own her.

Get yourself a hobby, stay busy...get a makeover...do something exciting for yourself...

Let her ass hang out, man.

You can't make her be someone she's not.

...
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Reply #79 posted 06/20/05 7:34am

Fauxie

rocknrollisalive said:

Fauxie said:




Exactly! lol

A kindred spirit!

My pissed off is more like most peoples' indifferent though. I find it hard to get too upset. She's was always a good girl and all the changes I've seen in her since I met her have been positive. In some ways she's put more in that I have, though she was more of a rough diamond than I. I understand that nobody's perfect. This is an ongoing work in progress like any other relationship and as long as we're moving in the right direction I'm sure we'll get there in the end. If not, I'll just be pissed off about it. biggrin



I was trying to think for ages how I wanted to respond to this thread, but it sounds like you just summed the whole thing up right there nod


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Excellent. Somebody give the Lock4u the signal and let's go and celebrate EWM getting banned. smile
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Reply #80 posted 06/20/05 7:36am

rocknrolldave

AlienX2050 said:

Fauxie said:




I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.


Do you think she owes you time or something?

I guess I am being sort of cold here. But if you don't give her room to do what she wants to do, it'll get worse.

Let her do her thing. You don't own her.

Get yourself a hobby, stay busy...get a makeover...do something exciting for yourself...

Let her ass hang out, man.

You can't make her be someone she's not.

...



Wow. Way to go missing the point completely..rolleyes

By the way, can you ever imagine someone saying this to a woman?

"Oh never mind you don't know where he is or when he's coming home. GET A HOBBY LOVE, YOU'LL BE ALRIGHT SWEETHEART, NOTHING TO WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD OVER"

?! You'd never have finished the sentence before all around had doubled up laughing
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Reply #81 posted 06/20/05 7:38am

rocknrollisali
ve

Fauxie said:

rocknrollisalive said:




I was trying to think for ages how I wanted to respond to this thread, but it sounds like you just summed the whole thing up right there nod


highfive

Excellent. Somebody give the Lock4u the signal and let's go and celebrate EWM getting banned. smile



confuse EWM got banned....?????

Well, I never confused
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Reply #82 posted 06/20/05 7:40am

p0pstar

AlienX2050 said:

Fauxie said:




I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.


Do you think she owes you time or something?

I guess I am being sort of cold here. But if you don't give her room to do what she wants to do, it'll get worse.

Let her do her thing. You don't own her.

Get yourself a hobby, stay busy...get a makeover...do something exciting for yourself...

Let her ass hang out, man.

You can't make her be someone she's not.

...



he didn't say anything like that


like he said

he just wanted the truth

I would be pretty fucked off too if someone said they would be home in a little while and didn't come home for hours


I would be worried about them, wondering if something had happened on the way home...

sigh

Nick i think you are adorable and that you are more understanding than this thread portrays.

hug
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Reply #83 posted 06/20/05 7:41am

Cradams

ella731 said:

TheFrog said:



yeah. sad

it's hard to find anyone to play with, when you're a 7th level Cleric like me.
sigh


Froggie last saturday




I can't see that picture, but i'm sure it's very flattering, so thank you. hug

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Reply #84 posted 06/20/05 7:41am

Fauxie

AlienX2050 said:

Fauxie said:




I thought I'd get responses like yours.

Not to worry. I know it's hard for people to empathise when people are so individual, but thank you to the people that have tried and offered some advice. I'll bear it all in mind and try to straighten this out a little.


Do you think she owes you time or something?

I guess I am being sort of cold here. But if you don't give her room to do what she wants to do, it'll get worse.

Let her do her thing. You don't own her.

Get yourself a hobby, stay busy...get a makeover...do something exciting for yourself...

Let her ass hang out, man.

You can't make her be someone she's not.

...


I know what you're saying, but it just doesn't quite apply here. It's not a terribly complicated situation, but it's not as simple as what u said above. She has room, she has responsibility, she has freedom. She wants to be able to control herself in regards to the subject of this thread. She wants my help. It's not as simple as giving her freedom (that she already has). I have hobbies, I keep myself busy in my own way. That has little relevance to my concern about her going out too often and not being able to keep her word. It's just something about her that she's tried to change for a while now but hasn't quite managed it. I just wanted some advice as to how I could help her settle down a little and not get so caught up in her old partying way of life when she goes out that she can't stick to her plans for how she wants to live her life.
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Reply #85 posted 06/20/05 7:41am

gemini13

Fauxie said:

CarrieMpls said:

How often does it happen? I can understand if this is a regular occurence (several times a week), it would be rather upsetting, but once in a while a girl just needs to go out and have some fun with her friends...


Used to be once every two weeks. Now it's around once or twice a week. Her sister's staying here right now as she's having trouble with her husband. As she's going out more now, it's influencing my wife too. Her sister's not out with her tonight though, but she hasn't been the best influence an older sister could be, and that's totally out of character too.

Even if it were once a month it'd bug me. It's not the going out, it's the sneakiness of it.

I just don't want to have to go with her everywhere to make sure she won't end up going out. She was supposed to be meeting a friend for lunch and then picking up some groceries on the way home for dinner.


I don't mean to be the devil's advocate here, but I used to go out while the boyfriend I was with stayed home. It became more frequent, and I eventually cheated on him. Not saying that's what she's doing, but I would be VERY cautious.
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Reply #86 posted 06/20/05 7:44am

AlienX2050

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rocknrolldave said:

AlienX2050 said:



Do you think she owes you time or something?

I guess I am being sort of cold here. But if you don't give her room to do what she wants to do, it'll get worse.

Let her do her thing. You don't own her.

Get yourself a hobby, stay busy...get a makeover...do something exciting for yourself...

Let her ass hang out, man.

You can't make her be someone she's not.

...



Wow. Way to go missing the point completely..rolleyes

By the way, can you ever imagine someone saying this to a woman?

"Oh never mind you don't know where he is or when he's coming home. GET A HOBBY LOVE, YOU'LL BE ALRIGHT SWEETHEART, NOTHING TO WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD OVER"

?! You'd never have finished the sentence before all around had doubled up laughing


People kill me with the expectations they put on relationships.

Being in a relationship doesn't mean you own them.

Nor does it mean do what you want to.

There's a certain age that brings maturity.

Not sure how I can say this without sounding cold...

If she goes out like this and does this everytime...

You're nuts for even trying to make her see how you feel. More than likely, she doesn't want to be there or she's just bored as hell.

But to say, I want her to come home and have dinner, and watch a DVD....ohhhhh, that sounds whimpy.

Go hang out with your friends.
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Reply #87 posted 06/20/05 7:45am

ella731

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Fauxie said:

I welcome all advice, be it from the school of empathy or from those who'd appear, remarkably, to have perfect relationships. smile



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Reply #88 posted 06/20/05 7:47am

Fauxie

gemini13 said:

Fauxie said:



Used to be once every two weeks. Now it's around once or twice a week. Her sister's staying here right now as she's having trouble with her husband. As she's going out more now, it's influencing my wife too. Her sister's not out with her tonight though, but she hasn't been the best influence an older sister could be, and that's totally out of character too.

Even if it were once a month it'd bug me. It's not the going out, it's the sneakiness of it.

I just don't want to have to go with her everywhere to make sure she won't end up going out. She was supposed to be meeting a friend for lunch and then picking up some groceries on the way home for dinner.


I don't mean to be the devil's advocate here, but I used to go out while the boyfriend I was with stayed home. It became more frequent, and I eventually cheated on him. Not saying that's what she's doing, but I would be VERY cautious.


Thanks for your concern. I know a little caution is definitely necessary but I don't worry about that. We really have been through too much and it's not something I think about when she goes out. I worry a little for her safety as she often comes back alone in the taxi, and I just want her to be able to control herself a little better and keep her word.

If u say u're going to go out with your friends and will be back at 2am then that's fine.

If u say u're going for lunch with a friend and will be back at 4pm with some groceries then that's what u should do.

I go out with her sometimes, but the point is that I don't want to have to go out with her everywhere just to make sure she sticks to her plan.

Her sister being here and going out a lot isn't helping, but that's a bit of tricky situation to address. I'm working on it though.
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Reply #89 posted 06/20/05 7:48am

rocknrolldave

ella731 said:

Fauxie said:

I welcome all advice, be it from the school of empathy or from those who'd appear, remarkably, to have perfect relationships. smile



neutral



..did the big words confuse you, Ella..?
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