Just heard new developments in missing Aruba girl, Natalie holloway, story. THe three suspects are being transferred to prison but it seems that there are still no official answers to her wherabouts/what happened that night. I feel so awful for her family - just want some answers and more importanly, get their daughter back.

Three Aruba Suspects Going to Prison

Saturday, June 18, 2005



ORANJESTAD, Aruba — One of the three suspects being held in Aruba for the disappearance of an Alabama teen vacationing there has been moved from a jail to a prison, while the other two are expected to be transported today, two sources confirmed with FOX News.

A judge ruled last night that Deepak Kalpoe, who was moved to a prison last night, Satish Kalpoe and Joran van der Sloot can be held for eight more days while the investigation into Natalee Holloway's (search) disappearance continues.

Authorities on Friday arrested another person in connection with the disappearance of missing honors student, officials said.

According to sources, the new man detained is a 26-year-old friend of van der Sloot (search), the Dutch teenager who is said to have been with Holloway the night she disappeared.

The Aruban attorney general's office initially identified him only by the initials "S.G.C.," but Holloway's mother told an interviewer that his name was "Steve." FOX News later confirmed that the man's name was Steve Gregory Croes.

Meanwhile, police brought in yet another man for questioning Friday night, FOX News has learned. The man, Max Arends, who is also a friend of van der Sloot, is not a suspect in the case and has not been arrested.

Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten told The Associated Press Croes was detained based on information from one of the other three detainees.

Croes, who works as a party boat disk jockey, said he was contacted by police Thursday night and went to the station voluntarily to give a statement, said his employer, Marcus Wiggins.

Croes also said he knew one of two Surinamese brothers being detained in the case because they went to the same Internet cafe, Wiggins told The Associated Press. However, Wiggins said that he had not seen the other three young men detained in the case on the boat where Croes works, a vessel called the Tattoo that offers nightly dining, swimming and dancing.

As for Croes' work ethic, Wiggins had nothing bad to say.

"I've never had problems with him," Wiggins told the AP. "He keeps to himself and shows up to work every day and does his job."

In Alabama, a woman who helped organize the graduation trip, Jody Bearman, said students did not go on the Tattoo as a group, although some could have taken a boat ride without the seven adult chaperones knowing.

"The chaperones were not supposed to keep up with their every move," Bearman said.

FOX News also learned that police may have questioned yet another young man, said to be of Dutch nationality, on Thursday night.

Mariaine Croes, spokeswoman for the Aruban Attorney General Caren Janssen, confirmed that Steve Croes was "in custody and being interrogated."

"Every day that the investigation continues," she told FOX News, "we are a step closer to solving this case."

Mariaine Croes also said she was no relation to Steve Croes, adding that the surname was a common one on the island.

In a separate development, a judge ruled that two of the detainees, Surinamese brothers Deepak Kalpoe (search), 21, and Satish Kalpoe (search), 18, were granted access to documents they have asked for, according to their lawyer.

Van der Sloot and the Kalpoes were questioned and released shortly after Holloway's May 30 disappearance, but then formally arrested June 9, after police moved their focus away from two security guards who had been arrested and were later released.

Beth Holloway Twitty, Holloway's mother, declined to give any more details about Croes but she told Associated Press Television News that she believes more people could be detained in the case.

"This is just the beginning," she said.

Holloway Twitty has been in Aruba (search) since nearly the early days of the search for her daughter.

"I want my daughter and I want her now," she said. "I'm very frustrated. We are in day 18 with no answers."

Paul Reynolds, Holloway's uncle, told FOX News the family remained confident that they would find out what happened.

"The authorities in Aruba and the United States are assuring us every effort will be made to find out what has occurred," Reynolds said Friday.

Van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers appeared in court Friday morning. It was not clear where Croes was being held.

Prosecutors asked a judge to rule that there was sufficient cause to continue holding van der Sloot and the Kalpoes. The three were detained June 9. Under the law, a judge must review their case after 10 days, rendering a decision by Sunday.

No one has been charged with a crime in the case.

The judge granted a petition by van der Sloot's father, Paul, to visit his son in jail, but then reversed the decision. Paul van der Sloot is a judge-in-training, serving a three-year term on the bench that allows him to hear a limited number of cases.

Also Friday, the court barred van der Sloot's lawyer, Antonio Carlo, from visiting the teen, effectively removing him from the case, said Attorney General spokeswoman Mariaine Croes.

As a result, the van der Sloots retained two more attorneys for the defense of their son, Richie Kock and Arjan Debie.

The court granted prosecutors' request to remove Carlo because he had visited one of two former security guards who had been detained and released in the case, authorities said.

Croes said the Dutch teenager has a team of lawyers, so Carlo's removal will not leave van der Sloot without representation. The spokeswoman is not related to Steve Croes.

Carlo did not return calls seeking comment.

The judge was brought in from neighboring Curaçao island, as is typical in high-profile cases.

Holloway disappeared the same day she was to return from a five-day trip with 124 other students celebrating their graduation from high school in Mountain Brook, Ala.

Searches by authorities, volunteer islanders and tourists have come up empty. Authorities refused to say whether they believed Holloway was dead.

On Thursday, however, Police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten told The Associated Press that authorities used a helicopter "to search for possible remains — but found nothing." He declined to say where the search was conducted.

On Wednesday, authorities searched the van der Sloots' one-story, yellow-beige home, where Joran lived in an attached apartment. Agents were seen carrying two white garbage bags filled with items from the house, while authorities towed away a blue sport utility vehicle and a red Jeep from the property in Noord, outside the capital, Oranjestad.

After the approximately four-hour search, Janssen said Paul van der Sloot was not under investigation.

The Kalpoe brothers have told police that they and Joran were with Holloway the night she disappeared and that she and the Dutch youth were kissing in the back seat of their car. The detainees initially said they took Holloway to a northern beach and then dropped her off at her Holiday Inn.

But Antonius "Mickey" John, a former hotel security guard released from custody Sunday, said to reporters that Deepak Kalpoe told him during a chat in jail that he and his brother actually dropped the young van der Sloot and Holloway off together near the Marriott, about 10 blocks north of the Holiday Inn. John said he passed the information on to police.

On Tuesday, FBI agents and officers from the Miami-Dade police department used German Shepherds to search the area, known as Malmok beach, which is a popular nighttime spot for lovers.

Deepak Kalpoe's lawyer would not comment on John's statement Wednesday, but has said his client maintained his innocence.

some kind of cover up goin on for the judges son

There are missing girls everywhere, all over the earth! This is tabloidy diversion to get attention off issues that really matter likeTHIS

NoTime2Hate said:

The thing that makes this newsworthy is that it was a SCHOOL trip and everyone sends their kids on school trips.

But yeah a dead girl doesn't matter

lovemachine said:

No, the thing that makes it newsworthy is that she was a pretty blonde white girl. Keep it real.

NeoSoulScribe said:

ITA...this is not to say that her case is not important, but thousands go missing and never make the news. She fits the "girl next door" stereotype, so the media is all over it.

NeoSoulScribe said:

I will keep it real and say you are an idiot.

lovemachine said:

lovemachine said:

Thanx. Can you keep it MORE real and tell everyone you just got set the fuck straight by a so-called idiot? LOL!

NeoSoulScribe said:

Wrong. Just some garbage spewed by some guy who is consumed by race and will never be able to move forward because of it. I stand by my assessment that the fact she was on a school trip is what made this newsworthy.

I can't believe this thread has turned into a WWF wrestling match.

lovemachine said:

I would agree with you. And I'd also agree with your idiot comment.

Nero said:

It's news worthy b/c this thing dosen't happen in Aruba, plus she's an american student on a trip.
But if you honestly think that the media gives equal time to missing women who are not blond haired and blue eyes you are sadly mistaken.
During the time of the so called "runaway bride" 3 women of color went missing and only one got a 30sec. mention on the news once.

And no, they can't report on all of the women who go missing but when has there been national attention on a missing woman who was not of this girls race.

lovemachine said:

Then you stand as a blinded retard that probably believes racism doesn't exist. What a waste you are. You're not even worthy of having a convo about this. Sad.

NeoSoulScribe said:

Neo - racism does indeed exits, no question about that. I see it all the time, but you have to stop turning everything into a case of racism. It will only weigh you down and fill you with hate. I know there are literally thousands of missing people in this world of all colours etc, but many of these people have disappeared for a reason.....they don't want to be found. I'm sure that in this case, even if the girl was not white, the story would still be big because of where it happened and being a school/grad trip. I also think that the judges son is involved and they are doing everything they can to pin it on someone else, but eventually the truth will be known.

kisscamille said:

I think I'm at an advantage here because of my educational background in this field. See, I know how the media works and how this country has used the Blonde blue-eyed woman as the paragon for beauty so when this "model" comes into peril, ALL EYES ON IT become the protocol.

This case would not be as big as it is if the circumstances were the EXACT SAME - But she was Black, Latino, or Asian. Don't kid yourselves, people. Please don't kid yourselves. Because if you do, then this will ALWAYS remain the same. The school trip doesn't make the news...the pretty blonde white girl is the reason it makes the news. You can bet on that.

NeoSoulScribe said:

I respect what you're saying Neo, but I'm having a hard time understanding it. Perhaps it's because I'm a blonde white woman. Do you really think that if this girl was non-white, we wouldn't still be hearing about it on the news? If so, then the USA is in a sad state of affairs. I may be wrong, but I believe if this happened to a Canadian girl on vacation, we would know all about it regardless of her skin/hair colour.

kisscamille said:

I understand that it may be hard for some to understand, especially for you because you've never had to deal with the opposite side of the coin and I'm pretty sure you have gotten perks for being blonde and you may not even know it. But that IS the sad state of affairs in the U.S. If she was Canadie AND Blonde it would DEFNITELY make the news in Canada.

You also have to take into consideration on hwo they paraded the 2 Black security guards they wrongfully arrested as suspects. The image of 2 burly black men in a case like this plays HUGE in the mind of people: "The big, scary black man has hurt the demure, innocent, lilly white girl" - Major racial overtones further exploited when they picked them up based on weak testimony FROM THE GUYS THEY EVENTUALLY ARRESTED for her disappearance. They didn't show the 3 guys' faces, they even ushered them in through the back door of the jailhouse and allowed them to cover their heads with jackets. Now why wasn't the same courtesy given to the 2 Black security guards?

Answer: They wanted the world to see that they got 2 niggers and they're gonna pay for hurting this sweet little white girl.

Now, this is a hard pill for a lot of people in here to swallow, as is usually the case with race here because some truly believe racism doesn't exist and they accuse many Blacks of crying wolf. Well, the day slavery doesn't exist is the day racism doesn't exist.

NeoSoulScribe said:

Racism will always exist I'm afraid. I can only hope that it doesn't consume you and others too much to the point that it makes you hate white people that you don't even know. I try hard everyday not to have hateful thoughts about people in my neighbourhood. As I mentioned in another thread, I live in a predominantly black neighbourhood with many south east asians too. I always try to think positively about the people in my neighbourhood because I know most of them are decent hard working people and not gun toting thugs like a few of them. I wouldn't want anyone hating me just because I'm an attractive white woman with blonde hair. Yes, I have probably received perks I'm not even aware of, but for me personally, I always try to look for what's inside a person before I judge them. I never judge anyone based on their skin colour.

kisscamille said:

Well, I will never get to the point to where I hate another race. I just have to make sure that Blacks don't keep getting shitted on and mistreated.

NeoSoulScribe said:

Stay strong and positive Neo and remind your brothers and sisters to do the same.

kisscamille said:

That's the only plan I know of, KC. And thanx. And keep your head up as well.

lovemachine said:

lovemachine, many studies have confirmed the racial bias in kidnapping/murder stories that are reported by national news outlets. You can even find some recent articles on this on Yahoo News. When was the last time you heard of national interest in a black or asian girl's disappearance or brutal murder? But, yes, a pretty rich white girl goes missing while on a Caribbean vacation, and they will splash it everywhere.
[Edited 6/20/05 12:58pm]

VoicesCarry said:

This may be the norm in the U.S. but in Canada I believe we do report on missing people regardless of their skin colour. We had a 9 year old chinese girl go missing from her own bedroom last year and it was all over the news for months. Her body was discovered months later and another chinese person has been charged with her murder, but my point is.....at least her name and story were on the news every day for months while the police were searching for her.

kisscamille said:

Yes, I'm talking about the US here. In Canada, it's different - they don't sensationalize things quite as much. I live near Toronto, and I do remember Cecilia Zhang, and Holly as well. That was not a good year. I believe they are now just going ahead with the trial of Cecilia's alleged killer.

In Canada, the racial minority that is subjugated is Natives. There is unmitigated racism there, both in media reporting and in the justice system. I also can't count the analyses I've read of the Alberta and B.C. government's (mis)handling of missing prostitutes cases, but that is not unique to Canada.
[Edited 6/20/05 13:07pm]

VoicesCarry said:

I didn't know we lived so close to each other. I live in Scarborough. The down and dirty part called Malvern . It's not as bad as some say, but it's not what it used to be either. Anyway, yes the trial for Cecilia will begin soon and that bastard will get what's coming to him. Sometimes I wonder about how much we sensationalize things though. Look at Karla Homolka. She's all over the news lately and it's sickening. I wouldn't give her the time of day. I'm sure she's loving all the media attention again.

Take care!

kisscamille said:

She's clearly a psychopath and a dangerous offender. She is also clearly a very intelligent woman and a great manipulator. She could easily disappear if she chose to. I do not believe she should ever be released. The media circus surrounding her release is pathetic, I agree.

kisscamille said:

There is another thread with links to over 10 women, of color, that a lot of people don't know about.

http://www.prince.org/msg/105/149875

check it out.

M
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