TMPletz said:

DAMN.

There's also some more dialogue just before Anakin beheads Dooku.
Palpatine - "Good, Anakin, good. I knew you could do it. Now kill him"
Dooku - "But you promised amnesty!"
Palpatine - "Kill him now!"
Anakin - "I shouldn't"
Dooku (to Palpatine) - "No, my Lord!"
Palpatine - "DO IT!"

Well, shouldn't Anakin have understood that Palpatine is the Sith Lord after hearing this?

Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 2-disc DVD (pan & scan)


What is "pan & scan"?

Still in the film, there is a scene on Kashyyyk where the clone troopers are mopping up after the order 66.

In the evening fog, two clone troppers on ATRT's come across a fallen tree ad some dead wookies. You here the guard say something along the lines of "All the wookies are dead here, lets move on".

In the cut scene, yoda pops up covered in mud, jibbering like a mad thing, talking about wookies tasting good. The clones then say "All the wookies are dead here, lets move on", as as they leave, the "dead wookies" get up, as they are really Tarful and Chewie pretending.

It was all an act to sneek past the guards and get yoda to his ET bauble ship!

I loved the scene in the control room of the crashing ship where - rather than fight like battle droids programmed to fight until the end like a Terminator - they all go "RUN!" And then R2-D2 trips one of them.

I wonder if the prejudice against droids expressed in Episode 4 ("we don't serve their kind here") was caused by the battle droids?

And what happened to the siege of Coruscant? Anakin and Obi-Wan free the Chancellor and crash land and then we don't hear anything more about the battle. No one yelled out in joy "Yay! The enemy has retreated! " or "Yay! We shot every last one of their ships to pieces! "

Instead, everything is sunshine on Coruscant - nobody seemed worried about a battle going on above their heads. No bombed-out city districts are shown and no shipwrecks are crashing on their heads. Huh?

So was Darth Plagious the creator of Anakin, therefore Darth Sidious' great interest in Anakin through his upbringing?

Starting out as senator for Naboo in episode 1, I take it Palpatine is a "nabooan" or whatever you call someone who's born on Naboo? Was Darth Plagious nabooan too?

Apparantly, economics and (slave?) labor are not an issue in the Star Wars galaxy. The Clone Troopers come fully equipped with a rather large fleet in Episode II. Did the kaminoans make that, too? Where did it come from?

Why are the Clone Troopers flying in X-Wing prototypes in Episode III?

Did they abandon the design (for the Rebel Alliance to pick up) because when the battle droid control ships were shut down, the brand-new Empire simply took the Trade Federations Fighter-design? And did they have to do that to save money because all the money of the Empire was being channelled into the construction of the two death stars?

Are the stormtroopers also clones or had the Empire recruited citizens for the Army by the second trilogy?

Certainly we had Imperial Commanders at the end of Episode III? Were did they - and their uniforms - come from so fast?

Did you notice that it took Padme shorter to fly from Coruscant to Mustafar than it did for Anakin to fly from the Jedi Temple to Cancellor Palpatine's aid against the evil Mace Windu.

And how can people possibly ride an elevator in the Star Wars Universe without getting squashed by G-Forces? Boy! They go fast!

Lucas: Man of the gala
By William Keck, USA TODAY
HOLLYWOOD — A chorus line of dancing Stormtroopers kicked up their heels like Rockettes Thursday night at the American Film Institute's 33rd Life Achievement Awards gala saluting Star Wars creator George Lucas (airing June 20 on the USA Network, 9 p.m. ET/PT).



Steven Spielberg, left, presents the lifetime achievement award to George Lucas at the American Film Institute’s Life Achievement Awards.
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William Shatner, who led the splashy musical salute at the Kodak Theatre, joked, "Star Trek changed everything, and aren't these conventions wonderful?"

Among the celebrities in attendance at the star-studded performance were Warren Beatty, Annette Bening, Richard Dreyfuss, Billy Dee Williams, Chewbacca and Hugh Hefner, who escorted a posse of 10 playmates,, including one with her hair done up in Princess Leia buns.

The most emotional moment of the evening came when original Star Wars players Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Chewy, C-3PO and R2-D2, backed by composer John Williams' original score, performed a re-creation of the closing medal ceremony scene from Episode IV: A New Hope.

A muffled gasp was heard during a film-clip salute to Lucas featuring King Kong director Peter Jackson, who has shed not only his scraggly beard but also 100 pounds.

Earlier during dinner, Fisher approached Jimmy Smits to introduce herself as his "daughter," Princess Leia. (In the latest Star Wars installment, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Smits' character, Senator Bail Organa, adopts baby Leia.)

"Jimmy's a lot better looking than any of the stepfathers I ever had," cracked Fisher, whose mother, Debbie Reynolds, married and divorced three times.

Added Hamill: "Carrie and I are still trying to figure out how such good-looking parents as Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman ended up with us."

Fisher then chatted up her on-screen Star Wars love, Ford, and his real-life lady, Calista Flockhart, who were seated at Lucas' table with Steven Spielberg, Robert Duvall and Lucas' three adopted children, Amanda, 24, Katie, 17, and Jett, 12.

Ford was approached by Daniel Logan, 18, who played young Boba Fett in Episode II: Attack of the Clones. Lucas said Logan's character may be included in his live-action Star Wars TV series, which is in the works.

Spielberg said writer Jeff Nathanson (Speed 2, Rush Hour 2 and 3) is readying a script for Indiana Jones 4 by summer's end. Asked whether Flockhart would play Indy's new leading lady, Ford said, "She would of course make her own decision."

Flockhart said she's up for a 2006 adventure. "Oh, yes," she said. "If I could kick his (butt), absolutely!"

Ah, so many questions young Padawan!
Yes, it's never really explained how the clone army came so fully equipped.
I've forgotten where the Clone ships were supposed to be manufactured, but
it wasn't Kamino. There are a few Planets that specialize in mass spaceship
production. One of them is Han Solo's home planet of Corellia, which is where
the Star Destroyers in Episodes IV-VI were made, (I don't know if the early
Star Destroyers seen in Episodes II & III were made there as well). But you're
right, this is never actually explained in the movies.

The ships were not manufactured by the Kaminoans, but they were commissioned by them to augment the Clone Army for the Republic. Most were made at the Ord Mantell shipyards, or at one of the several in the Correllian sector.


Again, a good point that isn't really addressed. But basically yes, a lot of
the Clone ships seen in Episodes II & III are abandoned by the time of Episode
IV. The ARC-170 Fighters (early X-Wings) and Drop Ships were made by one of
several manufacturing planets. Once the Empire took control, a few of these
planets sided with the rebellion and the Emperor took away their contracts.
The Empire's ship manufacturing was then handled by just a few tightly
controlled planets, the main one being Corellia. The Jedi Starfighters
eventually evolved into the familliar TIE Fighters.

The X-Wing was an abandoned update of the ARC-170. Bail Organa and Mon Mothma secretly funnelled funds to a shipyard that made fighters for the alliance. Note that the A-Wing in ROTJ is an update of the fighter used by Kenobi in AOTC.


Yes Stormtroopers are still clones. The Empire never recruited citizens for
the army. Imperial officers were recruited though.

Actually, there is quite a bit of reference in the EU that The Empire eventually started recruiting young, gung-ho citizens to the army. The Clone production center on Kamino was severly damaged during the Clone Wars, and thus wasn't able to produce the level of soldiers needed to subjugate the galaxy. This is why several Stormtroopers in the OT do not have Temura Morrison's voice (and why Lucas didn't change this, but did change Boba Fett's voice). The vast majority are still clones, however.


Well, again that is never fully explained in the movies, but the scene on the
Star Destroyer is actually set a few years after everything else. One plot
point that was cut out of Episode III was Palpatine's creation of regional
governors to police each system. The governors and their staff wore the
familliar 'Imperial' uniform. The scene at the end of Episode III with the
Emperor and Vader is set on the Command ship of Governor Tarkin, who was the
regional governor for the palnet that is manufacturing the first Death Star.

What would eventually become the Imperial Officers were actually instituted during the Clone Wars . The soon-to-be Governor Tarkin set up a command structure, as a "support" system for the Jedi generals for each Dreadnaught Star Destroyer (at the behest of Palpatine, of course). The uniform was instituted at this same time (you'll note that all the command staff of the Star Destroyer in ROTS have the Imperial uniforms). As you noted, Tarkin was the Governor in charge of the system where Maw Installation was located, the site of construction for the prototype Death Star, as well as both of the stations seen in the original trilogy.

Yeah, time is quite an elastic thing when it comes to the Star Wars universe!

Yeah, often things are edited in such a way in these films to make things seem like they are happening at the same time, or over a short period, when they really aren't. Take, for instance, Luke's training on Dagobah. Looks like it occurs over two or three days, when in reality it is much longer (and Han, Leia, Chewie and Threepio were on the run much longer than it appears as well). Dramatic pacing makes this a necessity, but screws with your head upon multiple viewings.


Inertial dampers and artificial gravity generators (but I know what you mean!)
They did film bits with Obi-Wan getting knocked around a bit more by the
elevator's stops and starts, but they cut them out for some reason.

Yes. The scenes in the novel of the gravity generators shifting were great, as its so rare in sci-fi flicks to ever see those things go out (the only other time I can think of was in Star Trek VI). It would have been nice to have seen some of this in the finished film.

The space battle over Coruscant wasn't a siege. The separatist attack was purely
to abduct Supreme Chancellor Palpatine and leave with their hostage. They were
actually trying to escape Coruscant when the Rebublic fleet arrived to stop
them. Once General Grievous' ship was lost and the abduction attempt failed
the other separatist ships were either destroyed or fled.

scififilmnerd said:

Yes, it's never really explained how the clone army came so fully equipped.
I've forgotten where the Clone ships were supposed to be manufactured, but
it wasn't Kamino. There are a few Planets that specialize in mass spaceship
production. One of them is Han Solo's home planet of Corellia, which is where
the Star Destroyers in Episodes IV-VI were made, (I don't know if the early
Star Destroyers seen in Episodes II & III were made there as well). But you're
right, this is never actually explained in the movies.

BorisFishpaw said:

They should have shown them fleeing, then.

BorisFishpaw said:

They should have shown them fleeing, then.

BorisFishpaw said:

The one-liners like Anakin's resonse to the Seperatist who pleads that Darth Sideous was going to reward them handsomely ("I'm your reward. Don't you think I'm handsome") were just too cheesy.

JediMaster said:

Aha, thanks for that clarification
I'm familiar with the movies and Lucas' ideas and scripts etc. but I haven't
read the EU books.

BorisFishpaw said:

I wonder who paid the bill for the clone army (and their rather expensive pieces of... "accessories")? After all, the order had been made to the clone facility in the name of a deceased Jedi. Do you think the Jedi Council got stuck with the bill, Master? And then that is why the Clone Troopers followed the command of YOda and the Jedi in Episode II? And then the republic picked up the bill and that is why the Clone Troopers were parading past the senators at the end of episode II?

Am I the only one who thinks that in the scene in Episode III were Anakin is fondling Padmes pregnant stomach at her humble abode, he looks like Michael Jackson? It's the hair!

scififilmnerd said:

Oh, and... If it wasn't a siege, but a lightning strike, how did they have time to call two Jedi in from the outer rims to free the chancellor?

(But of course, Padme got from Coruscant to Mustafar in 30 seconds... )

And when Palpatine staged this sset-up, how could he possibly know that they'd call in Anakin of all Jedis?

BorisFishpaw said:

What's the "EU", besides the European Union?

just finished the novel last night, and I LOVED the scene with Yoda and Qui Gonn. That simply MUST be restored to the film when the DVD is released. It explained so much about how Yoda and Obi-Wan learned to fade away into the Force, and how the whole Force ghost thing works.

I also have the issue with the acting and the digital effects. But it's over for now...I'll give it that.