http://www.prince.org/msg/105/148733

so what are your thoughts about his comments?

IrresistibleB1tch said:

thank you touch, i stay away from there, so i had no idea there was already a thread.

btw, he's an idiot.

jerseykrs said:

so are a lot of people... care to elaborate?

Well they don't like gays... not even the white ones!

Reagan was the first US president to have an "openly gay " couple to the white house ....

Bush courted gay republicans during his run ...

I really do NOT have anything terrible to say about Howard Dean , etc ... but i like the comment that this Republican said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I think many on the left believe this as well (Republicans = white/rich/christian). They underestimate the right, label them, stereo-type them and in turn the Democrats have lost the last 5 election cycles.

Until the left realizes the right are not a bunch of evil-uncaring-greedy- monsters, the Democrats will lose the next 5 election cycles.

Sowhat said:

That's what happens when we rely on labels... None of us fit neatly into one category.
We are humans and we are much more complicated then that. The politicians are doing a good job of dividing this country. We need to learn to stick together no matter what side we are on and stop assuming that the right is full of evil doers and the left is full of losers.
I am personally sick of both parties.....
The politicians on both side disgust me!
[Edited 6/8/05 10:23am]

shanti0608 said:

Very well put!

I think they threw Dean out there to fall on his sword, to see how much they could get away with rhetoric-wise.

2the9s said:

U could be right...

2the9s said:

And at the same time make Hillary look more moderate.

Sowhat said:

hmmm

It's the truth. The fact that those assholes have managed to con blacks and mexicans with gay bashing and stumping on fake moral issues does not mean it's inclusive and that it is not tailored to and catering to the rich/white/evangelical segments.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did you see shanti0608's post?


"That's what happens when we rely on labels... None of us fit neatly into one category.

We are humans and we are much more complicated then that. The politicians are doing a good job of dividing this country. We need to learn to stick together no matter what side we are on and stop assuming that the right is full of evil doers and the left is full of losers."

I agree with this 100%.

I do not believe either party "caters" to or "follows" or "includes" just one "segment" or another, nor do I believe that eveyone or even most in either party all believe the same thing or have the same morals or values.

Just like not all Christians believe all of the same things or all have the same morals and values. Just like not all Ahteists do. Not all Blacks do. Not all Whites do. Not all Men do. Not all women do. Not all homosexuals do. Not all Americans do...etc....

Sowhat said:

There's truth in what you say. But you're a bald face liar if you act as if the GOP, Bush and his administration aren't cow-towing to the religious right and fulfilling their every fantasies or bowing to the almighty dollar to reward the already rewarded while shutting out the poorest of the poor. And you do remember how anti affirmative action the GOP is right?

hmm
[Edited 6/8/05 14:07pm]

Howard Dean is brilliant.