Natisse said:

Go go go go!!! True or hokey, it's thought provoking.

doctamario said:

Well, that's why they call it a theeeeooooorrrrryyyyy.

Relax.

The film is not very well presented or paced, to be honest. But, aye, it's good these theories are getting out to the dummies, making them blink, think, before they cram another hamburger down their gullets.

doctamario said:

It's all just theory...interesting theory at that. And like all theorys you can poke holes into it.

medina said:

I only scratched the surface of what they talked about. They do go into that as well. And what is in those spaces and what they might be made out of.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I think that was really the point of the movie. To ask questions that there may not be answers to. Like why is it that we have complete knowlege of our past. Yet every action we take affects our future.

And the addiction part was really fascinating as well.

LisasBrush said:

It is a MOVIE. And of course there is going to be some bias. But for the most part, the movie's views on religion (all religions) and God was pretty much the same.

I think the movie opens up the dialog and a way of thinking that most are not used to. It poses questions. It's up to you to find the answers.

LisasBrush said:

Yeah there's a mini doc as part of the specail features on the DVD (I haven't seen it yet) that discusses why they made the film.

I loved how one of the them said, and I'm paraphrasing, "You are not good, you are not bad, you are God."


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Number23 said:

um ok. I doubt that the "dummies" would even see such a movie let alone get it. I do hope that it provokes some thought in the average viewer though.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

We are all God. Everything is God.

superspaceboy said:

Thank you for coming to my rescue.


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

you're quite welcome.

The thing that really got to me was the part where Marlee Matlin is looking in the mirrow and calling herself ugly and fat. Boy, have I been there. Maybe I should write all over myself and take a bath.


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

That was a hard scene to watch. I haven't been there and it's hard for me to relate to those that hate themselves in that way. Though I suppose sometimes people need to "go there" in order to find themselves.

superspaceboy said:

Also very Kabbalah. That's why I started to study it -- the first class I went to they talked about God being everything and every one, and an energy -- The Light. It was the first time I heard what I always thought, always felt, embraced by a belief system.

I saw this when it came out and although it was very difficult to get into (I was dozing off at the beginning) I was hooked during the "addiction" part of it. Being an ALANON twelve-stepper myself I FINALLY GOT, the meaning of addiction...and how I'm in a sense, addicted to my emotions...

I'm paraphrasing here.

From the movie:


We bring to ourselves situations that will fulfill the bio-chemical craving of the cells of our body by creating situations that fulfill our chemical needs and added we will always need a little bit more to fulfill that high. So if you cannot control your emotional state than you must be addicted to it.

So can anyone say they are in love with a particular person? They’re only in love with the anticipation that their emotions, are addicted to—because the same person can fall-out of favor by not complying.

When you understand that you are addicted to your emotions it’s not just psychological but also bio-chemical.

Think about this….Heroin uses the same receptor mechanisms on the cells that our emotional cells use. It’s easy to see then that if we can be addicted to heroin than we can be addicted to any; neuron-peptide; any emotion.

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Again, I'm paraphrasing to the best of my memory...the explanation was described in more detail with things such as the hypothalmus (s?) and protein peptides and receptors in the cells that are bombarded with negative emotional peptides...

something like that...

anyone remember all this?

TheResistor said:

Yes, it's pretty close to what you wrote. It really explains my relationship with one of my x's. He treated me like shit but I loved him. I was addicted to the love I felt when he wasn't being an asshole. I was connecting assholeism and love. I was wired wrong at that moment.


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TheResistor said:

yeah, i think you captured that pretty well. I'm not familiar with 12 stepping, but I just read Augusten Burrough's "Dry" (great book, BTW), which chronicles his rehab and post-rehab life, and now that portion makes even more sense.

I posted after I saw this film and really think it explains a lot. For those people who say it's too new age or that the theories in Quantum Physics discussed are not true are just in denial. If there was no truth in Quantum Physics why is it taught at the University level by more than one University?

Whatever, I was raised with the understanding of most of the facts that this movie focused on and it was great to see scientists and PhD's breaking it down with a docu-drama angle so that it wasn't all scientific babble. It was difficult to follow at first but by the end it seems to come full circle in its explaination.

If one is cynical or skeptical, there is something to be learned by everyone at multiple levels.

I think it's beautiful to think that we are all interconnected. That is why I have always smiled at people when I see them. I really believe simple little gestures like that can really change a person. It changes their chemistry and may make a difference in their day. I know it makes a difference in mine.


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TheResistor said:

Well as I just saw it ..I do! The addiction part was right on I thought. I had mentioned above about the connections in your brain and the relationships the neurons have with each other.

For instance when one smokes there are all kinds of stimuli connected to it. from the inhaling to something in your hands to the opening of the pack. They are all connected soemhow. It's only when you stop smoking that the connections start realigning themselves and making other connections. However, even after quitting smoking maybe the taste of beer will trigger a craving to a cigarette. That's probably because the connections that beer has to the cigarette hasn't reconnected to anything else yet, thus the connection is still there, thus you get the craving.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

But even now when you get into a relationship...there are still triggers to those emotions.

I liked how they pointed out that Love can easily be associated to pain and hurt...in that when one thinks of love they connect it to someone they did love and perhaps lost or was hurt by that person who they loved.

LisasBrush said:

I also think that when one is getting hypnotized, that the hypnosis is re-establishing those connections and trying to break those that are there.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

Bingo!

superspaceboy said:

I agree...the pain and hurt will always be there unless you confront the ugly truths, acknowledge them, deal with them (therapy, 12 step programs, religion, whateva) and then move on. But it's so difficult when someone triggers those emotions and you unconsciously and compulsively blame the one you love. They don't cause the pain they just expose what's already there...

superspaceboy said:

That's so true...
It's amazing the effect the smile of a stranger has on me.

I sooooo gotta see this!