I will have you know that I KNOW gay men that don't like anal sex. Personally, as a PTB (part time bottom) there is no ORGASM like it.


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

so do they just not have sex or something?

doctamario said:

Um....there are tons of other things that can be done.

Anal sex does not a gay man make.


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1LUV said:

You know what that's EXACTLY what I was trying to say albeit you did a much more eloquent job.

It continues to mystify my comprehension how in a heterosexual union a man can feel that anything to do with touchin "that" part of them eludes or connotates some derrogatory perception of their manhood.

Sharing with your partner and exploring with your partner only strengthens your bond as well as your understanding of not only their body and sexuality...but also that of their partners. Granted as responsible adults need to also be conscious of hygiene (especially with these activities).

Not being crude at all.... but I could understand if a man said ...you know I just don't enjoy that at all.... but it's 99% of the time a "gay-phobic" connotation of why they have never allowed anyone to touch them there....with "whatever" .... that's the part that raises an eyebrow....because instantly the question arises?

Are you that insecure in your manhood and in query of societal perception of "your business" that you wouldn't sensually explore something new with your woman?

I think that strange.....after all .... 9 out of 10 men out the gate have no problem approaching a woman with regard to anal penetration.... (don't they realize that in a gay relationship amongst men....someones the giver and someones the receiver) ...what's the difference?

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toffee said:

What's the difference? Ummm...penetration in the butthole.

It just appears to me that the butthole is not made to be plugged by anything but constipation and irregularties of the dispository system.

If a man allows someone to plugged their butthole, I see that as sort of bisexual behavior. I'm not saying it's either bad or good. If it's your thing then do it.

Gina, you're sweet and all but there's a sense of dominance in you. You like to dominate don't you?

Anal sex is about domination.
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AlienX2050 said:

not at all ..... i have no whips ... ( one lil leather paddle doesn't count...) actually i'm just not anal retentive (pardon the pun) and i'm not talkin domination.... i'm talkin small vibrators and fingers....and tongues .... etc.. all in the course of oral stimulation and not to hurt but to pleasure...and some men like it .....

don't really think it's dominate.....and never really thought it a big deal until blasted by you... just throwing out my perspective love...I don't see any corelation in a heterosexual union the connotation to being or feeling "gay" because of it ..... Never once have I engaged in anything with my man to degrade ..... but at the same time women can do more than lay there...they can participate and they can bring pleasure (gonna start callin u captain cavemannnnn)

you know me well enough by now Chris that I express myself without hesitation.... was merely posting to your thread ....

damn ...why i gotta be a dominatrix... howeva.... sometimes in roleplay there is an arena fo' that too

mannnnn.... educate yourself .....do some reading ..... look within yourself as to what you allow other perceptions and societal taboos label you (cuz you're obviously worried about the connotation/view of others if you render yourself submissive) .... and live your life being true to yourself. I can understand if it's not your thing...my problem lies within the thought process that makes it something you can codemn in others in order to validate your rationale for abstaining "that" I question.

Feeling like the takin' sides at recess thingie slightly. snicker'n @ u



if its not for you man...just say it's not for you ...but ummmm don't make me have to don my black leather to create a safe haven for your view

toffee said:

AND ANOTHER THING Anal Sex is not about Domination.... Sodomy is when it's concensual .... I beg to differ

toffee said:

i'd bottom out for gi'..whoa did i say that?
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TheRealFiness said:

steven a

toffee said:

Sodomy can be either anal or oral sex.

toffee said:

There's not much I can say about what you're saying. You make a good point.

I guess I've never seen it this way.

I guess it's just a point I haven't reached. I don't care to though...

JoeyMFinCoco said:

Andy....this thread is about the anal ...that's the aspect of sodomizing thatI was referencing

AlienX2050 said:

well u cant have an opinion on something u havent tried yanno? if it grooves u it grooves u... if it dont it dont. at least u can say u tried.what society says about sex is Bullshit. fuck society and all its right n wrongs about 2 or more people in the act of something righteous and beautiful.

AlienX2050 said:

Now that I can respect (Capt'n Cavemannnnn)

toffee said:

OK, now you lost me. CC says anal sex is about asserting male dominance. You disagree and say sodomy is about domination. I point out sodomy can be either anal or oral sex and then you say you were talking about anal after all.

So is anal sex about asserting male dominance yes or no? I believe it is or at the very least that's where it has its roots. It was thought to be not so pleasurable for the female, painful even, but highly stimulating for the male. Therefore it was all about the man doing something against the will of the woman and showing his physical dominance.

JoeyMFinCoco said:

there's a very fine line between pain and pleasure. there's a feeling that "it hurts so bad that its good" its not about male dominance at all its all about what freaks you and what doesnt. granted there's some women who dont like it.. or one havebt tried it. same goes for men. too.

TheRealFiness said:

awwwww pain vs. and/or coupled with pleasure ..... that's a whole new thread steve

toffee said:

yeah it is... but i had to throw that out there because in reality its all relative

TheRealFiness said:

Right but why do you like some things and dislike others? Sexuality is all in the mind and the human mind is very interesting. It's not as simple as liking or disliking a certain type of candy. There's a lot more to it. Then again, some people claim psychology is all a bunch of bullshit.

JoeyMFinCoco said:

i agree, people like and dislike things due to fear of the unknown... if they open up and delve into certain things it';; open up a new channel in em yanno?.. ive tried things i didnt like,sure we all do.but ive tried it again with an open mind and it was fine. its all about openess i think

JoeyMFinCoco said:

Consent is the determining factor Andy. Ummmmm.... I don't see anal as a dominance thing....and not ALL women suffer in the act some enjoy and some have orgasms ....

If that were the basis for your premis.....the women that have pain during the course of intercourse would make that have negative connotation as well? Does that mean we shouldn't have sex at all?

NOPE... Anal is something that some men and some women enjoy. Granted not all. To each his/her own...my initial point was saying that just because it's not for you don't condemn the next person

A lot of women don't like oral.... a lot of women perceive it as dirty and derrogatory and their gag reflex doesn't allow it to be anything but a non-pleasurable experience..... Somehow that's more acceptable and not viewed male dominace...

What's good for gander doesn't always satiate the goose love ....to each his own...it's a perception that must be judged by each individually.

and sorry for any confusion...truly wasn't trying to be elusive

**** wonderin if your still a lil tesy at me over the whole one night stand thread *** damn man...said sorry once....not gonna grovel

AlienX2050 said:

So oral sex is out of the question too since it serves no real procreative properties?


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

DAMN MIGUELGOMEZ great minds think alike

toffee said:

Some women like to be spanked, whipped, have their hair pulled, slapped in the face, spat on, choked, verbally humiliated, have needles put through their nipples, branded etc ect. That doesn't mean the male doing it to her is not dominant, just because it's consensual. It doesn't mean it doesn't stem from much deeper and darker fantasies people have, some of which people are afraid to admit they have.

Throat fucking is about male dominance as is giving her a facial. To people on this fucking site everything is a matter of opinion. Psychology might not be an exact science, but that doesn't mean they're all just bullshit theories.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I'm not saying I agree with CC, but oral sex had a very practical purpose. It wasn't really the type of oral sex we know, it was more a quick taste to check each other's body parts before the actual copulation.

toffee said:

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AlienX2050 said:

Anal Sex is just another aspectof sex, nothing more or less....Open your mind and explore yourself first...before you hide behind societal pressures and images.....

Carry On!

DexMSR said:

Whap!

Attention straight men. Please do the ladies a favor and don't ignore your Anus when in the shower. I've had many a girlfriend that complain about their boyfriend's smelly behind while performing other activities in bed. I speak only to a few of you since most of the straight men on the org, know what's up.



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toffee said:

Let me be real about this-

I knew a young lady once who could handle anal sex as if it was regular sex. Now take it, I found this shit out by mistake. I was much younger and I had this thought in my mind where the hell had she been.

Now to someone liek this, this may not be considered as dominant. Unless, you inflect some sort of pain otherwise...like strangalation, slappings, whips..real spankings.

Now, for the most part, women aren't willing to go that far in anal sex because it hurts. When you look at it, it's sort of violent.

That's what I think about two men having sex, it's violence and every bit of it is about dominance no matter if they are gay. (By the way, I'm not judgeing. Do your thing.)

Sexual relations between two women is more passionate.

Why would you have anal sex? Pleasure?

Or is it just another hole to point the pistol? This may excite some people but not me.

The women I know would probably try it...test it here and there but they are not going to go full fledge anal-butt-fucking good time. A nice size weiner in that tee-little hole just doesn't cut it.

If anal sex isn't dominant towards a certain woman, she's done it on a number of occassions and probably could handle more than I could give.

I don't want to see a butt-hole stretched like that. It sounds nasty as shit.