Since you only seem to accuse people in the UK as brain dead morons I thought you might be interested in this little story, it seems there are stupid people in the USA as well, I don't expect to see a reply but please just read it and stop your whinging lady!!!

HOLLY HILL, Fla. — Two Florida teenagers found a homeless man in the woods and beat and kicked him to death "to have something to do," according to Volusia County sheriff's investigators.

Christopher Scamahorn, 14, and Jeffery Spurgeon, 18, confessed to beating the 53-year-old victim with their fists and sticks and kicking him, sheriff's spokesman Brandon Haught said Sunday.

The pair were charged with murder Sunday. Spurgeon was being held without bail in Daytona Beach. Scamahorn taken to a juvenile jail.

The teens said they attacked the man "for fun" and "to have something to do," Haught said. They went back to the woods three times after the initial attack to beat the man again, he said.

The victim was found Saturday, and the condition of the body indicated he had been dead for several days. An autopsy Sunday determined that the man died from blunt force trauma to the head and body, Haught said.

The victim's name has not been released.

"We're trying to find next of kin," Haught said Monday. "He apparently doesn't have any next of kin nearby."

Investigators said there may be more arrests.

<~~ disgusted 21-year-old Floridian... for the record...

Estrelle said:

What sort of society are we living in that people murder someone for fun, I can't really get my head around it.

starbass said:

I dunno but I get the feeling this sort of thing isn't as newly-occuring as we might think..

Blame TV and blame parents who don't know their own children

PANDURITO said:

Yes I do blame TV, not sure if you have the happy slapping craze in the USA but over here there was a TV show where a gang of guys would go around slapping people and recording it on their mobiles, now all the teenagers are doing it.

A lot of young people are easily influenced and TV is telling them that this kind of behaviour is acceptable.

And don't get me started on that crazy frog!

U see, even YOU consider that this country is fucked up!!! What other country but the UK would have a ringtone as the number one single?????

Anyway, with this case in Florida at least they will get the RIGHT punishment for this, which will b the DEATH PENALTY!!!!! Over here, they will get away with just a slap on the wrist and set free and told not 2 b naughty little boys again!!!!! This country should bring the death penalty back again!!

Gold319 said:

at last, i understand why you don't fit in here!

it's because you talk a load of bollocks.

Gold319 said:

for an older woman you sure do talk a lot of shit!!!!! Maybe you should go back to the States!

NO ONE is keeping you here, you know, we do live in a democracy, if you don't like this country, then go back to where you came from

abierman said:

...but beware: There's death penalty over there!

Gold319 said:

the death penalty never solved anything and it never will.

Lack of respect for human life has become pervasive in our culture.

Even the Christians, who tend to champion "the human life" concentrate primarily on the fetus moreso than grown adults.

Our movies, our video games, our music, and our speech generally shows a disregard for the human life. How could our youth not be in some way influenced by that?

I love this country, but when we go up in arms over gay rights, but generally do little about our murder rate, something is freakishly wrong.

Lack of respect for human life exists everywhere. Sad as it is, at least it keeps our population from growing even faster, which will destroy earth quicker.
So I think is some way, it's part of nature's way of trying to control us.
We are the world's worst virus

Heavenly said:

Dude, don't get online while you're high!
It scares me!

starbass said:

-HOLLY HILL, Fla.- sounds like a small town or suburban place....so they are prolly telling the truth

I love it how America is supposed to be such a God-fearing country but they still have death penalties and the hillbillies are all up for voting a murderer as president again.
And honeslty what a fucked up world we live in, these kids could have found something to do but all it is these days "im bored" so they go out and fuck with people. What about morals being taught to them by their parents and what about finding something to do with their time e.g. play an instrument. All the media seem to be interested in is causing more trouble for young people by giving them a load of bullshit to think about.

Christopher said:

I believe it's a suburb of Daytona.

AsianBomb777 said:

I'm telling you, somebody put something in my coffee!

AsianBomb777 said:

ever see the movie bully? reminds of that kinda thing.... not daytona..but them feeling bored and wanting to do stuffs

I may sound dumb and barbaric to some but i think they deserve the death penalty too
I used to be liberal but i changed my views on this;
Anybody that kills with full reasoning doesn't deserve life either imo



How about Hitler ?
Would you have want for him to get the death penalty
if he hadn't killed himself ?
I certainly would have
[Edited 5/31/05 5:02am]

Dewrede said:

Meat is murder

Dewrede said:

but the death penalty is killing with full reasoning.

Dewrede said:

Quoting myself here
[Edited 5/31/05 5:07am]

Dewrede said:

on purpose, or because you're a muppet?

TheFrogSpawn said:

Personally i dont think anyone has the right to die including getting the death penalty, not looking at it as a religious point of view, but i mean come on, you kill a person their dead gone. It would cause them much greater harm especially psychological if you kept them alive and fucked them around if you really hated them. Plus they might repent and agree it was wrong. Every human should be given that chance.

TheFrogSpawn said:

Can't argue with that , other than by saying
those 'people' imo are no different than over aggressive fighting dogs
that need to be put down

AzurePanther said:

I don't think the death penalty is about revenge or punishment. I think the two main reasons for it is 1. Eliminating the threat. and 2. Scaring others from doing this crime.

I'm not sure if it works though, we don't have the death penatly in my country.

Are you Dutch ?