JediMaster said:

You better see your doctor!

PANDURITO said:

I'm perfectly healthy.

JediMaster said:

You should have listened to the sound scoming out your mouth. Something like:

ESB ROTS ANH AOTC ROTJ TPM

Scary, isn't it?

Anxiety said:

No, that wasn't Asajj Ventress. I can understand how you would confuse them.

JediMaster said:

musta been her sister Thalma then.

Never far from Supreme Chancellor Palpatine's side was his hauntingly pallid aide, Sly Moore. Laconic, with a piercing gaze, Moore occupied a position similar to Sei Taria's role in Supreme Chancellor Valorum's administration.






Homeworld:
Umbara

Species:
Umbaran

Gender:
Female

Affiliation:
Galactic Senate; Galactic Republic





Sly Moore's taciturn demeanor kept her inner agenda unknown to most of her colleagues, though it was whispered that she possessed a very strong ambitious drive. Some gossiped that she somehow eliminated Sei Taria's from public office, paving her ascent to the Supreme Chancellor's side, though nothing conclusive has ever come to light.
Moore's enigmatic countenance derives from her Umbaran heritage. She is from a breed of near-humans hailing from a shadowed planet deep in the Ghost Nebula. Umbarans have an eerie reputation for being able to influence -- perhaps even control -- the minds of others.

Moore's piercing gaze can only see in the ultraviolet spectrum, and her seemingly colorless shadowcloak is in actuality adorned with intricate patterns visible only to her and similarly sighted beings.

Of all of the Supreme Chancellor's aides, Moore is said to be the closest, and privy to the Chancellor's deepest secrets

Homeworld:
Rattatak

Gender:
Female

Weapon:
Paired lightsabers

Vehicle:
Geonosian fanblade starfighter

Affiliation:
Confederacy of Independent Systems


One of the most deadly and tragic opponents to emerge from the battlefields of the Clone Wars was Asajj Ventress, a disciple of the dark side and sworn enemy of the Jedi. A lifetime of enduring cruel hardships had purged any compassion from her cold heart, and a fierce survival instinct forged in the ceaseless dangers of her bloody homeworld kept her on the dark path.
Much of her past remains shrouded in mystery. Ventress hails from Rattatak, a barbaric world where violent bloodshed is a daily occurrence. The primitive planet is far from the Republic borders, and is ruled by brutal warlords who constantly battle for domination. A warlord named Osika Kirske murdered Asajj's parents when she was very young. Somehow, a young Jedi named Ky Narec came to be stranded on this forsaken world. Cut off from the Jedi Council, Narec discovered Asajj and took it upon himself to train the Force-strong orphan. The two quickly became heroes, vanquishing many warlords, ending wars, and uniting armies until Kirske conspired with the remaining warlords to retaliate. They succeeded in killing Narec before he could complete Asajj's training.

As a result, she had the skills of the Jedi combined with a raw, unfocused talent in the Force. She never controlled her instinctual fury, and when her master died, she developed a hatred for the Republic that had abandoned her mentor, and had ignored the atrocities of Rattatak.

Asajj's rage fueled her power, and she clawed her way up to a position of authority on the lawless world of Rattatak. She conquered and imprisoned most of the remaining warlords, including Osika Kirske, whom she would eventually kill. She could best any of the monstrous combatants in the gladiatorial games held regularly on the world. Shortly after the outbreak of the Clone Wars, Count Dooku came to Rattatak, looking for another world to add to the Separatist fold. What he found instead was far more promising.

Ventress' raw talent and fierce determination impressed Dooku. The charismatic leader of the Confederacy was able to recruit the young warrior by appealing to her disgust with the Jedi and the Republic. Dooku confirmed Ventress' bitter ideas that the Jedi had abandoned their ethics and convictions. Ventress proved her skills by challenging Dooku to a duel. Though Dooku won the sparring contest, he invited Ventress to accompany him back into the Confederacy as a personal protégé.

Though Ventress longed to identify herself as a Sith, she did not receive Sith training. While Dooku helped hone her talents, he taught her none of the knowledge unique to the Sith. Her skills were a combination of incomplete Jedi training coupled with her own techniques. Her raw talents and bottomless well of anger and pain bolstered her dark side abilities. Giving into her rage granted her further powers.

Ventress proved to be a cunning military mastermind, and Dooku made her a commander within the Separatist army. One of her first assignments was disrupting a meeting between Jedi Master Mace Windu and a group of dissident Jedi. Dooku had no compunctions about exploiting and lying to Asajj to meet his ends. He told her that Windu was responsible for the abandonment of her former Jedi mentor. Asajj did battle with Windu on the moon of Ruul, and though Asajj was forced to flee the fight, Windu came to realize that a new and dark menace to the Jedi was at large.

Asajj was in command of a Separatist plot to unleash a deadly chemical weapon on the Gungan colony moon of Ohma-D'un. This was an early test of a chemical warfare program against the clone troopers of the Republic. Though Asajj and Durge had to flee the Naboo moon, they had proven to be formidable opponents against the Jedi.

General Obi-Wan Kenobi followed Asajj to the chemical weapon development plants on Queyta. Asajj was tasked by Count Dooku to once again offer Kenobi a chance to join the Separatists, but the Jedi refused. Asajj again escaped to plague the Republic on other battlefronts.

Four months after the Battle of Geonosis, Asajj joined the fighting on Muunilinst, where Republic clone troopers attacked droid factories on the InterGalactic Banking Clan homeworld. Though the bounty hunter Durge handled the ground campaign, Asajj soared into battle aboard one of her fanblade starfighters. Her incredible piloting skills drew the attention of Anakin Skywalker, the Padawan who was leading the space forces. Despite orders not to pursue, Anakin gave chase, and Asajj lured the young Jedi-in-training into a trap.

Anakin followed Asajj through hyperspace to the ancient Sith temples of Yavin 4. Anakin continued his pursuit on foot, aided by clone troopers. Using the Force, Asajj whittled away the clone trooper guards, and then began a stunning lightsaber duel with Anakin. So skilled was she, Asajj even proved to be a challenge to the fabled Chosen One of Jedi legend. To defeat her, Anakin needed the edge granted by giving into anger. In a furious counter-attack, young Skywalker repulsed Ventress, who nevertheless survived.

After being captured on Jabiim, Jedi General Obi-Wan Kenobi and the ARC trooper known as Alpha were transported to Ventress' private fortress on Rattatak. There, she tortured the prisoners in hopes of breaking Obi-Wan's spirit and presenting the defeated Jedi as a trophy to Count Dooku. Kenobi foiled her plans, though, and escaped along with Alpha. Adding insult to injury, Kenobi stole Ky Narec's lightsaber, which Ventress kept as a memento of her past, and left Rattatak by absconding with one of her fanblade fighters.

Asajj has perfected a lightsaber combat form that uses paired blades to strike and parry. She carried twin weapons given to her by Count Dooku, and each bears a similar archaic curved handle design favored by the former Jedi Master. Ventress' lightsaber handles are especially modified so that they can connect into a joined, S-shaped handle, becoming a double-bladed lightsaber.

And here's Asajj Ventress's:

JediMaster said:

hey, thanks for that!

most important question, though: is there a sly moore action figure?

and there is!

TheBatman said:

Indeed.

I can't understand anyone who gives Ep I a better rating than Ep IV.



(I do agree, though, sometimes Eps I and II are too harshly criticized.)

I can't understand anyone who gives Ep I a better rating than Ep IV.

namepeace said:

Come on... you want to talk about bad acting? 2 words: Harrison Ford.

You watch the difference between the original 3... his acting improved GREATLY by "Jedi."

Cheesy effects... I'm talking originally, not the re-released, re-worked DVDs that came out last year. "A New Hope" was great in 1977, but geez... Forget Jake Lloyd (yes he sucked), forget Jar Jar... Darth Maul rocked!

I think both were victims of fan expectations, and the fact that the fans had also grown older and more cynical. There is nothing in Episode I or II that is any more "kiddie-fide" than anything in Return of the Jedi, but folks don't remember that movie in that context. They remember it as the kick-ass flick they experienced as children.

JediMaster said:

I agree. But Lucas' gift for dialogue and direction of actors seems sharper in IV-VI than in I-III. I think people were lost on the political intricacies of I and II that set III into motion so quickly.

namepeace said:

I agree with this big time. I actually believe that George created something really elaborate and ingenius with the political intricacies in Episodes I & II. Unfortunately, it went over a lot of folk's heads and wasn't what they wanted in a SW film.

namepeace said:

Come on... you want to talk about bad acting? 2 words: Harrison Ford.

You watch the difference between the original 3... his acting improved GREATLY by "Jedi."

Cheesy effects... I'm talking originally, not the re-released, re-worked DVDs that came out last year. "A New Hope" was great in 1977, but geez... Forget Jake Lloyd (yes he sucked), forget Jar Jar... Darth Maul rocked!

What has gone over peoples head sin this whole Sideous/Sifo-deous business and who created teh Clones....they are actually nothing to do with eachother and the truth is even more weird. Infact there are so many diferent versions of the relationships (all from Lucasfilms) that even I dont know the real story behind it.

Basically the consistant bits of teh stories are that Sipho-deous teh Jedi did organise for teh clones to be built (many different reasons why), Dooku killed him and then told Sideous about the clones...how it moves on from there all gets hazy.

SOme versions say Dooku pretended to be Sifo-deous, some say there was no reason to pretend as it was already sorted etc etc

What's the deal with Sifo Dyas? Is Sifo Dyas actually Darth Sidious?

The history of this character is explored in the novel Labyrinth of Evil, by James Luceno. In a nutshell, Sifo Dyas was a Jedi Master that was deceived by Count Dooku into helping him create the clone army. Dyas was unaware of Dooku's turn to the Dark Side, and helped him covertly commission the clones because he convinced him that the Sith were in control of the Senate (which was actually true. Dyas was just unaware that Dooku was a Sith himself). Dooku then did away with the Jedi Master (although, he apparently kept his body on ice, as he used some of his blood in creating the new droid body for General Greivous). So no, Syfo Dyas and Darth Sidious are NOT the same character.

There's this whole debate on theforce.net about whether Mace was kicking Sidious's ass or was Sidious feigning because he neede to lure Anakin.

JediMaster said:

I agree. But Lucas' gift for dialogue and direction of actors seems sharper in IV-VI than in I-III. I think people were lost on the political intricacies of I and II that set III into motion so quickly.

Ok, I just saw it tonight, and all I can say is....

WHO KNEW THAT DARTH VADER WAS SO FUCKING HOT!!!!! I found it a travesty that someone so beautiful had to be burned up and covered with a mask at the end.

Damn! I seriously couldn't even concentrate on the story and what was going on.

Which means, I have to see it again.

And again.

That was my deep, DEEP review of this movie.

Ok, I just saw it tonight, and all I can say is....

WHO KNEW THAT DARTH VADER WAS SO FUCKING HOT!!!!! I found it a travesty that someone so beautiful had to be burned up and covered with a mask at the end.

Damn! I seriously couldn't even concentrate on the story and what was going on.

Which means, I have to see it again.

And again.

That was my deep, DEEP review of this movie.

namepeace said:

For me, it's not so much "lost on" as "bored to tears by..." What made the first movies so great when they first came out was that they were a perfect blend of radio serials, Westerns, and then-groundbreaking sci-fi effects. They were zippy, they were thrilling (although they still allowed for downtime in scenes of Han-Leia flirting and claymation chess matches). And, most importantly, they rarely tried to reach too far beyond what they were: really fun family adventures. I think Lucas tried to match the intricate plots of "Lord of the Rings" (which I admittedly think are overrated), and ended up losing all sense of the genre's goofy charm.

minneapolisgenius said:

You little pisher.