Those seem to be two very interesting scenes! Can't wait for the DVD. Does anyone if there will be two versions? Like a DVD and a 2DVD edition?

JediMaster said:

But then I find it strange that Yoda hesitates when Luke arrives on Dagobah. Or was he just kind of "playing" with Luke?

calldapplwondery83 said:

Hopefully, there will just be a nice, longer version. That's pretty much what he did with TPM.

calldapplwondery83 said:

I've always been under the impression that Yoda is just old and crochety at that point. He's been living alone for 20-something years, and doesn't really feel like training Luke, unless he knows for certain that Luke will complete his training. In other words, Yoda is saying "worth me coming out of retirement, this had better be".

JediMaster said:

I don't think that at all.

Yoda didn't want history repeating itself. He remembers all too well the way the Jedi were destroyed at the hands of Luke's daddy. He didn't know whether the apple had fallen far enough away from the tree to trust Luke. Think about it: if Luke turned, then he could tell Sidious exactly where Yoda was and that's all she wrote.

namepeace said:

Good point! So, even if The Force was indicating that it was time for Luke to be trained, Yoda would be understandably cautious about it.

JediMaster said:

That's it. As I see it from Yoda's perspective, the prophecy about Anakin destroyed the Jedi. So even if the Force was indicating it was Luke's time, he knew it could come at a price.

Which brings me back to my original thought. The prophecy was true, though the Jedi didn't know the ramifications. In order for balance to be restored, the Jedi had to be eliminated. And the reasons are evident from their fearful, myopic, and ham-handed response to Anakin and the return of the Sith.

namepeace said:

According to an interview I read with Lucas, the prophecy didn't come true until Vader turned on the Emperor. Yoda and the other Jedi assumed that the Chosen One would destroy the Sith before they could do any real damage, but that simply wasn't true. Free will still enters into the equation, even when dealing with something like a prophecy, which seems like predestination. Anakin ultimately DID destroy the Sith, but not before doing a whole helluva lot of damage to himself, the Jedi and the galaxy as a whole.

Of course, none of that needed to have happened. Much like many religious leaders of today, the Jedi were wll meaning, but got way too caught up in their dogmatic rules and regulations. Qui Gonn Jinn had the right idea about reform for the Jedi, but the council would not listen to him.

I thought the DVD's and the theatrical releases were the same?

JediMaster said:

ufoclub said:

They incorporated some of the deleted footage back into the DVD version (more pod race scenes)

Yeah, the DVD of Episode I was a bit longer than the theatrical release.
It included the 'air taxi scene' and an extended Pod Race sequence.

I don't remember there being any actual extra scenes in Episode II, but
the DVD did include an few extra effects that weren't present in the
theatrical release. When Jango Fett's jet-pack is hit during the arena
fight, some smoke and sparks were added to show it was damaged, and when
his head get cut off and you see his helmet fly through the air, they added
an extra shadow on the ground to suggest his head fell out (so when Boba
picks up his father's helmet later on, there's a reason why his head doesn't
fall out of it). They also added a shot in Anakin & padme's 'wedding' where
she takes hold of his robotic hand as well as his real one (in the theatrical
cut, she only holds his real hand).

As far as I know, the only scene that will be added to the DVD version of
Episode III is a shot of Yoda landing on Dagobah in the final montage.

BorisFishpaw said:

Oh yeah. I forgot about the air taxi.

wait... that's right, both movies featured exended verion of scenes, there was a ton of them in ATOC.... just as extras.... I think.... some chick borrowed my dvd's!

ufoclub said:

Yeah, both movies had 7 or 8 deleted scenes as extras.
but we were talking about extra scenes that were actually added back into
the movie for the DVD release, which were not present in the original
theatrical release.

BorisFishpaw said:

The scenes you're describing for AOTC were actually added in for the digital release. There is also a bit on the DVD that came from the IMAX version of the film, where Anakin says something about being a Jedi, and knowing he is better than this, right after he has told Padme about killing the Tusken tribe. There weren't any real "new" scenes, just stuff that was tweaked from the digital and IMAX presentations. I was still happy to see them on the DVD.

YODA sure kicksbuttsssss

dudiefa said:

Hell YEAH, he does!!!