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Anyone watch Six Feet Under?
I think its done a fabulous job portraying gay characters as real life average americans, all the while depicting a fairly accurate representation of "gay culture" without resorting to gay sterotypes. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but one piece of media worth mentioning. |
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Elizabeth Taylor  
 I absolutely adore her! ...and she looks like my mama!Socks still got butt like a leather seat... | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: klhk said: gay role models? good grief! does it matter the sexual orientaion or skin color of a person who is admirable?
 It does matter when we "gay" people are treated like shit all the time in public, media what have you. And there are supposedly no gay do-gooders in this world. What! Do you not recognize all the achievements gays have made thoughout the years? There will always be more obstacles in the way! There will ALWAYS be negativeity towards gays , but recognize and be thankful that you are gay in 2005 and not 1955! Good fucking grief! Gays, just like minorities have come a LONG way! recognize the positive NOT the negative!!! Gays bitching about what they have not achieved is just like blacks bitching about slavery! im' just sayin!  Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: One problem, politically, for having stars being the vocal advocates is that the assholes on the right can continue painting gay=hollywood elite. That bullshit flies so well with their constituency. It makes the issue seem trivial, as if all of us are Hollywood elitists and not just average Americans like everyone else. I wish we had more role models in the community. It would help the young generation so much.
There was definitely more during the whole ACT UP and Queer Nation Era. WHen regualr folks were speaking out cuz NO ONE was. I saw a few role models in my day. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: klhk said: gay role models? good grief! does it matter the sexual orientaion or skin color of a person who is admirable?
It does matter when we "gay" people are treated like shit all the time in public, media what have you. And there are supposedly no gay do-gooders in this world. I still cna't hold hands with my partner anywhere I go. That's how far we have to go. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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CarrieMpls said: Anyone watch Six Feet Under?
I think its done a fabulous job portraying gay characters as real life average americans, all the while depicting a fairly accurate representation of "gay culture" without resorting to gay sterotypes. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but one piece of media worth mentioning. The cop is fucking beautiful!!!!! Matthew St. Patrick, yummmmm! M MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: CarrieMpls said: Anyone watch Six Feet Under?
I think its done a fabulous job portraying gay characters as real life average americans, all the while depicting a fairly accurate representation of "gay culture" without resorting to gay sterotypes. A drop in the bucket, to be sure, but one piece of media worth mentioning. The cop is fucking beautiful!!!!! Matthew St. Patrick, yummmmm! M Indeed, he is yummy.  |
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klhk said:
Gays bitching about what they have not achieved is just like blacks bitching about slavery! im' just sayin! [/quote]
Interesting you bring up the issue of the black vs gay thing....seems to come up all the time. But I do think there is a difference. Slavery for most intents and purposes is over. Blacks have "gotten" all of the rights everyone else has. Gay's have not. You are correct we have acheived so much. We have a lot to be thankful for. We still have a long way to go. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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klhk said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: It does matter when we "gay" people are treated like shit all the time in public, media what have you. And there are supposedly no gay do-gooders in this world. What! Do you not recognize all the achievements gays have made thoughout the years? There will always be more obstacles in the way! There will ALWAYS be negativeity towards gays , but recognize and be thankful that you are gay in 2005 and not 1955! Good fucking grief! Gays, just like minorities have come a LONG way! recognize the positive NOT the negative!!! Gays bitching about what they have not achieved is just like blacks bitching about slavery! im' just sayin! Girl, what the HELL are you talking about? Like what kind of achievements? Over coming those obstacles at ALL is what being a gay role model is all about. Attempting to make things easier for us one step at a time. And frankly, i'd be happy to be gay in ANY TIME. And gays are minorities. I don't even know what i'm saying, but where are you coming from? For real. You're not gay, you don't understand the struggle. Who's gonna stop 200 Balloons?
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CarrieMpls said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: The cop is fucking beautiful!!!!! Matthew St. Patrick, yummmmm! M Indeed, he is yummy. They're gay!?! 
That put's a whole new slant on the show. Next you'll be telling me the father's a ghost!  | |
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doctormcmeekle said: CarrieMpls said: Indeed, he is yummy. They're gay!?!
That put's a whole new slant on the show. Next you'll be telling me the father's a ghost! Drinking again? Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.
Virginia Woolf Writer Oscar Wilde Writer Andy Warhol Artist Gore Vidal Writer Yves Saint-Laurent Designer Joseph Steffan Navy Officer Bessie Smith Singer Dick Sargent Actor Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist Georgia O'Keefe Artist Paul Monette Artist W. Somerset Maugham Writer David Kopay Pro-Football Player Indigo Girls Musicians Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer David Geffen Head of Geffen Records Barney Frank Congressman James Dean Actor David Bowie Musician/Actor Ruth Benedict Anthropologist Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator Joan Baez Musician Sasha Alyson Publisher Leonard Bernstein Composer Allan Ginsberg Poet Merv Griffin Entertainer Keith Haring Artist Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen Calvin Klein Designer Richard II British King Peter Tchaikovsky Composer Bill Tilden Tennis Player The Village People Musicians Wu Chinese Emperor Tennessee Williams Playwright Walt Whitman Writer Tom Waddell Olympic Decath Alice B. Toklas Writer Gertrude Stein Writer Gerry Studds Congressman Socrates Philosopher Frank Schubert Composer Sappho Poet RuPaul Musician/Model Plato Philosopher Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion Rod McKuen Poet Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer Greg Louganis Olympic Diver k.d. lang Musician Sir Elton John Musician Janis Ian Musician Sir John Gielgud Actor Frederick the Great Emperor Errol Flynn Actor Melissa Etheridge Musician Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief Richard Chamberlain Actor Lord Byron Poet Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player Marlon Brando Actor Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter Sandra Bernhardt Comic Deborah Batts Federal Judge Josephine Baker Singer W.H. Auden Writer Pedro Almodovar Film Director Edward Albee Playwright Ani DiFranco Musician Pet Shop Boys Musicians Meshell Ndegeocello Musician Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M. NO Madonna or Liz Taylor? They were the first and largest personal supporters of AIDS awarness in the early days. Madonna was the first celebrity to appear on the Advocate. Liz Taylor was the first celebrity to even say the name AIDS publically. Theses two women were there for us in the hardest of times and you don't list them? bad bad bad bad You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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What are gay role models anyway?
there are soo many niches within the gay community could one person even stand out and say hey i'm a gay role model? Elton, Boy George, George Michael, Greg Luganis, Andy Bell, Neil Tennant, and the litany of disigners are defently the front runners. But i know many a gay man who can't identify with any of them. We have to define what we want before we can set an ideal of what we want to be like. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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my gay role models:
john waters andy warhol keith haring john cameron mitchell k.d. lang phranc klaus nomi joey arias clive barker dmitri galas karen finley tony kushner and for the love of all thats queer and holy, if she's gonna be included, SPELL SANDRA BERNHARD'S NAME RIGHT!!!! 
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Attacking the idea of gay "role models" is some ignorant shit. All minorities have to face incredible stereoptyping and all sorts of damaging biases. I remember when I was growing up, the only portrayal of asians in the movies where Long Duck Dong from 16 candles, and that sexually neutered east Idian guy from Short Circuit. It was amazing the kinds of harrassment that I would get both from whites and blacks becuase of it. Today, asian role models (minus that dumb ass William Hung bitch) are actually ones I can be proud of for the most part. We've come a long way. I applaud gay role models and wish there were more. My concern is that they're about where Asians where back in the 1980's. Like Ellen and Queer Eye, they're forced to be sexually neutered comical characters instead of the fully multi-demensional people that they are. Role Models are necessary for all people, but for oppressed people or for misunderstood minorities, they are all the more important. That is why I am ashamed that I embarrass asians so much.
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ehuffnsd said: superspaceboy said: I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.
Virginia Woolf Writer Oscar Wilde Writer Andy Warhol Artist Gore Vidal Writer Yves Saint-Laurent Designer Joseph Steffan Navy Officer Bessie Smith Singer Dick Sargent Actor Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist Georgia O'Keefe Artist Paul Monette Artist W. Somerset Maugham Writer David Kopay Pro-Football Player Indigo Girls Musicians Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer David Geffen Head of Geffen Records Barney Frank Congressman James Dean Actor David Bowie Musician/Actor Ruth Benedict Anthropologist Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator Joan Baez Musician Sasha Alyson Publisher Leonard Bernstein Composer Allan Ginsberg Poet Merv Griffin Entertainer Keith Haring Artist Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen Calvin Klein Designer Richard II British King Peter Tchaikovsky Composer Bill Tilden Tennis Player The Village People Musicians Wu Chinese Emperor Tennessee Williams Playwright Walt Whitman Writer Tom Waddell Olympic Decath Alice B. Toklas Writer Gertrude Stein Writer Gerry Studds Congressman Socrates Philosopher Frank Schubert Composer Sappho Poet RuPaul Musician/Model Plato Philosopher Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion Rod McKuen Poet Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer Greg Louganis Olympic Diver k.d. lang Musician Sir Elton John Musician Janis Ian Musician Sir John Gielgud Actor Frederick the Great Emperor Errol Flynn Actor Melissa Etheridge Musician Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief Richard Chamberlain Actor Lord Byron Poet Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player Marlon Brando Actor Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter Sandra Bernhardt Comic Deborah Batts Federal Judge Josephine Baker Singer W.H. Auden Writer Pedro Almodovar Film Director Edward Albee Playwright Ani DiFranco Musician Pet Shop Boys Musicians Meshell Ndegeocello Musician Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M. NO Madonna or Liz Taylor? They were the first and largest personal supporters of AIDS awarness in the early days. Madonna was the first celebrity to appear on the Advocate. Liz Taylor was the first celebrity to even say the name AIDS publically. Theses two women were there for us in the hardest of times and you don't list them? bad bad bad bad I mentioned Liz! 
CynthiasSocks said: Clutch the pearls but you forgot...
Elizabeth Taylor
I absolutely adore her! ...and she looks like my mama!Socks still got butt like a leather seat... | |
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What about Mrs. Liza and Mrs. Judy Garland? They shared a love of homosexual men and Liza, till this day supports gay issues.
And no one mentioned Victor Salva who is a maginificent horror flick director and openly gay! shit, I LOVE his movies..... although he has a questionable past..... Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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...and of course Peter Paige from QAF (US version)...he is directing his first movie about a gay man wrongly accused of pedophilia.....
yep! [Edited 5/19/05 20:23pm] Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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more awesome role model types:
scott thompson terry sweeney (the only openly gay cast member of SNL thus far) kate bornstein leigh bowery joey arias stephin merritt | |
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klhk said: ...and of course Peter Paige from QAF (US version)...he is directing his first movie about a gay man wrongly accused of pedophilia.....
yep!
[Edited 5/19/05 20:23pm] Oh, Nigga Please. Who's gonna stop 200 Balloons?
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Alan Cumming, Freddie Mercury [Edited 5/20/05 5:37am] | |
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GlitterStream said: klhk said: ...and of course Peter Paige from QAF (US version)...he is directing his first movie about a gay man wrongly accused of pedophilia.....
yep!
[Edited 5/19/05 20:23pm] Oh, Nigga Please. what? peter paige is cool! Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater? | |
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Anxiety said: more awesome role model types:
scott thompson terry sweeney (the only openly gay cast member of SNL thus far) kate bornstein leigh bowery joey arias stephin merritt God I wish LEIGH BOWERY were still alive. And oh how I wish Joey Arias could come sing for me!!! Did anyone see Terry Sweeney on SNL when Madonna was on back in the day. I still have it on tape. I thought it was hilarious. "I am not a thiiiiing. I wanted to be treated like a PERSON not a THING." M [Edited 5/20/05 8:26am] MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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Well I personally thought it was so cool how Mike Brady and Sam the Butcher had all those kids to raise and did such a fantastic job. | |
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My husband is my gay role model! 
He's 16 years older than me and we're been together 10+ years. He has taught me a lot in many different areas, I look up to him and love him with all of my being. Socks still got butt like a leather seat... | |
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Fleshofmyflesh said: Well I personally thought it was so cool how Mike Brady and Sam the Butcher had all those kids to raise and did such a fantastic job.
We used to always say "Sam the butcher, Alice the butchest!" M MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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TearyRomp said: Be accurate. Just Tinky is totally down with winkies. 
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: Fleshofmyflesh said: Well I personally thought it was so cool how Mike Brady and Sam the Butcher had all those kids to raise and did such a fantastic job.
We used to always say "Sam the butcher, Alice the butchest!" M Priceless ! Wow - that show actually had alot of gay role models now that I think about it.... Remember Vincent Price when they went to Hawaii ? He was SO GAY !! | |
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CynthiasSocks said: My husband is my gay role model!
He's 16 years older than me and we're been together 10+ years. He has taught me a lot in many different areas, I look up to him and love him with all of my being. You have a husband? | |
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