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superspaceboy

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Gay ROle Models? Are there a shortage of them now?

Help me out here....

It seems like there is a definite shortage of Gay Role Models. Is it because there is nothing to fight for anymore? Or is it that we've gotten so mainstream, that it's not cool to be a spokesperson for something so common and ordinary.I also see the trend of the past decade where folks are coming out yet not taking any stance or becoming a voice. More like it's a raising of a hand "Yes 'm gay too" and that's about it. I cna sorta think of one person who is actively (but not proactively) standing up for our rights...Rosie O'Donnell.

Anyhoo, it could be that I don't read advocate or the gay rags...so maybe I'm a little out of touch...

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Reply #1 posted 05/19/05 2:21pm

AsianBomb777




He's played at a festival or two in support of gay rights.


No joke.
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Reply #2 posted 05/19/05 2:22pm

Fleshofmyflesh

Dunno...but I loves me some Ellen Degeneres lol
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Reply #3 posted 05/19/05 2:23pm

AsianBomb777

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Dunno...but I loves me some Ellen Degeneres lol



I bet she'd love her some fleshofmyflesh too. smile
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Reply #4 posted 05/19/05 2:25pm

Fleshofmyflesh

AsianBomb777 said:

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Dunno...but I loves me some Ellen Degeneres lol



I bet she'd love her some fleshofmyflesh too. smile




Ewwwww.
I spit up in my mouth.
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Reply #5 posted 05/19/05 2:27pm

superspaceboy

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I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.

Virginia Woolf Writer
Oscar Wilde Writer
Andy Warhol Artist
Gore Vidal Writer
Yves Saint-Laurent Designer
Joseph Steffan Navy Officer
Bessie Smith Singer
Dick Sargent Actor
Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist
Georgia O'Keefe Artist
Paul Monette Artist
W. Somerset Maugham Writer
David Kopay Pro-Football Player
Indigo Girls Musicians
Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer
David Geffen Head of Geffen Records
Barney Frank Congressman
James Dean Actor
David Bowie Musician/Actor
Ruth Benedict Anthropologist
Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator
Joan Baez Musician
Sasha Alyson Publisher
Leonard Bernstein Composer
Allan Ginsberg Poet
Merv Griffin Entertainer
Keith Haring Artist
Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen
Calvin Klein Designer
Richard II British King
Peter Tchaikovsky Composer
Bill Tilden Tennis Player
The Village People Musicians
Wu Chinese Emperor
Tennessee Williams Playwright
Walt Whitman Writer
Tom Waddell Olympic Decath
Alice B. Toklas Writer
Gertrude Stein Writer
Gerry Studds Congressman
Socrates Philosopher
Frank Schubert Composer
Sappho Poet
RuPaul Musician/Model
Plato Philosopher
Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion
Rod McKuen Poet
Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer
Greg Louganis Olympic Diver
k.d. lang Musician
Sir Elton John Musician
Janis Ian Musician
Sir John Gielgud Actor
Frederick the Great Emperor
Errol Flynn Actor
Melissa Etheridge Musician
Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief
Richard Chamberlain Actor
Lord Byron Poet
Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player
Marlon Brando Actor
Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter
Sandra Bernhardt Comic
Deborah Batts Federal Judge
Josephine Baker Singer
W.H. Auden Writer
Pedro Almodovar Film Director
Edward Albee Playwright
Ani DiFranco Musician
Pet Shop Boys Musicians
Meshell Ndegeocello Musician
Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M.

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Reply #6 posted 05/19/05 2:28pm

2teh9s

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Well, there's asianboi... confused

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Reply #7 posted 05/19/05 2:29pm

superspaceboy

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I found another...this one sort of rates them in positivity...again...I question Rock Hudson and Liberace...I think that their avid "straightness" hurt us more than helped us. Not sure how Mattew SHepard ended on this list either.


1. Ellen DeGeneres

2. Barney Frank

3. Sir Ian McKellan

4. Greg Louganis

5. Melissa Etheridge

6. Reichen Lehmkuhl (Amazing Race 4)

7. Matthew Shepard

8. Martina Navratilova

9. Ricki Lake-(not gay- but supportive of the gay community)

10. K.D. Lang

11. Madonna- (not gay-but supportive of the gay community)

12. Oscar Wilde

13. Richard Hatch (Survivor)

14. Chip Arndt (Amazing Race 4)

15. Rosie O'Donnell

16. Liberace

17. Elton John

18. Rock Hudson

19. Sandra Bernhardt

20. George Michael

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Reply #8 posted 05/19/05 2:30pm

superspaceboy

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AsianBomb777 said:




He's played at a festival or two in support of gay rights.


No joke.


lick I wish.

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Reply #9 posted 05/19/05 2:30pm

2teh9s

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What are your criteria for a "role model."

Activist?
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Reply #10 posted 05/19/05 2:33pm

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I think there was/is a trend of gay celebs who come out and don't want to have to be an activist, and I sorta get that. Sort of in the vain of, this is only a part of who I am and I don't HAVE to defend myself to anyone.
Unfortunately, if no one's gonna stand up and say the important things then the movement isn't gonna go anywhere. I dunno. It's not for me to figure out. Just support. wink
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Reply #11 posted 05/19/05 2:34pm

doctormcmeekle

superspaceboy said:

I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.

Virginia Woolf Writer
Oscar Wilde Writer
Andy Warhol Artist
Gore Vidal Writer
Yves Saint-Laurent Designer
Joseph Steffan Navy Officer
Bessie Smith Singer
Dick Sargent Actor
Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist
Georgia O'Keefe Artist
Paul Monette Artist
W. Somerset Maugham Writer
David Kopay Pro-Football Player
Indigo Girls Musicians
Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer
David Geffen Head of Geffen Records
Barney Frank Congressman
James Dean Actor
David Bowie Musician/Actor
Ruth Benedict Anthropologist
Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator
Joan Baez Musician
Sasha Alyson Publisher
Leonard Bernstein Composer
Allan Ginsberg Poet
Merv Griffin Entertainer
Keith Haring Artist
Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen
Calvin Klein Designer
Richard II British King
Peter Tchaikovsky Composer
Bill Tilden Tennis Player
2the9s Org Idiot
The Village People Musicians
Wu Chinese Emperor
Tennessee Williams Playwright
Walt Whitman Writer
Tom Waddell Olympic Decath
Alice B. Toklas Writer
Gertrude Stein Writer
Gerry Studds Congressman
Socrates Philosopher
Frank Schubert Composer
Sappho Poet
RuPaul Musician/Model
Plato Philosopher
Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion
Rod McKuen Poet
Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer
Greg Louganis Olympic Diver
k.d. lang Musician
Sir Elton John Musician
Janis Ian Musician
Sir John Gielgud Actor
Frederick the Great Emperor
Errol Flynn Actor
Melissa Etheridge Musician
Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief
Richard Chamberlain Actor
Lord Byron Poet
Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player
Marlon Brando Actor
Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter
Sandra Bernhardt Comic
Deborah Batts Federal Judge
Josephine Baker Singer
W.H. Auden Writer
Pedro Almodovar Film Director
Edward Albee Playwright
Ani DiFranco Musician
Pet Shop Boys Musicians
Meshell Ndegeocello Musician
Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M.

eek
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Reply #12 posted 05/19/05 2:36pm

2teh9s

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doctormcmeekle said:

superspaceboy said:

I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.


Merv Griffin Entertainer
Keith Haring Artist
Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen
Calvin Klein Designer
Richard II British King
Peter Tchaikovsky Composer
Bill Tilden Tennis Player
2the9s Org Idiot
The Village People Musicians
Wu Chinese Emperor
Tennessee Williams Playwright
Walt Whitman Writer
Ani DiFranco Musician
Pet Shop Boys Musicians
Meshell Ndegeocello Musician
Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M.

eek


mad
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Reply #13 posted 05/19/05 2:36pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

superspaceboy said:

AsianBomb777 said:




He's played at a festival or two in support of gay rights.


No joke.


lick I wish.



Garth is very supportive of gay rights. His sister, who used to play in his band, is gay.

Garth is very hot. I love it when he released that alter ego album. He reminded me of Prince on the cover.


M
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #14 posted 05/19/05 2:37pm

Sinister

2teh9s said:

doctormcmeekle said:


eek


mad


hah!
clever clever quotation - attention getting quote - sad yet witty remark - look at me! Im deep quote- song lyric about my ex cause that bitch stole my mp3 player! - line from movie I liked - Prince lyric - not very clever sig mocking other sigs
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Reply #15 posted 05/19/05 2:38pm

GlitterStream

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Shortage? Has there really ever been an abundance of them?
Who's gonna stop 200 Balloons?
YO MAMA!!
LET'S DO IT!!!
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Reply #16 posted 05/19/05 2:46pm

superspaceboy

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2teh9s said:

What are your criteria for a "role model."

Activist?


Maybe activist...doesn't have to be. But just someone who portrays a positive image of what it's like to be gay. I'd say Ellen is a good role model for our time.

Will and Grace and Queer as Folk don't cut it...in fact they make it worse.

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Reply #17 posted 05/19/05 2:47pm

superspaceboy

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2teh9s said:

doctormcmeekle said:


eek


mad



I didn't know you were gay. eek hmmm though that would explain alot.
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Reply #18 posted 05/19/05 2:48pm

DrZoidberg

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Tupac and Biggie



notoriously gay
Now open your mouth and lets have a look at that brain
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Reply #19 posted 05/19/05 2:52pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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One problem, politically, for having stars being the vocal advocates is that the assholes on the right can continue painting gay=hollywood elite. That bullshit flies so well with their constituency. It makes the issue seem trivial, as if all of us are Hollywood elitists and not just average Americans like everyone else. I wish we had more role models in the community. It would help the young generation so much.
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #20 posted 05/19/05 2:53pm

doctormcmeekle

Some of my best friends are gay.

nod
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Reply #21 posted 05/19/05 2:55pm

2teh9s

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doctormcmeekle said:

My wife is gay.

nod


I can prove otherwise.

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Reply #22 posted 05/19/05 2:55pm

Anxiety

superspaceboy said:

I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.

Virginia Woolf Writer
Oscar Wilde Writer
Andy Warhol Artist
Gore Vidal Writer
Yves Saint-Laurent Designer
Joseph Steffan Navy Officer
Bessie Smith Singer
Dick Sargent Actor
Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist
Georgia O'Keefe Artist
Paul Monette Artist
W. Somerset Maugham Writer
David Kopay Pro-Football Player
Indigo Girls Musicians
Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer
David Geffen Head of Geffen Records
Barney Frank Congressman
James Dean Actor
David Bowie Musician/Actor
Ruth Benedict Anthropologist
Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator
Joan Baez Musician
Sasha Alyson Publisher
Leonard Bernstein Composer
Allan Ginsberg Poet
Merv Griffin Entertainer
Keith Haring Artist
Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen
Calvin Klein Designer
Richard II British King
Peter Tchaikovsky Composer
Bill Tilden Tennis Player
The Village People Musicians
Wu Chinese Emperor
Tennessee Williams Playwright
Walt Whitman Writer
Tom Waddell Olympic Decath
Alice B. Toklas Writer
Gertrude Stein Writer
Gerry Studds Congressman
Socrates Philosopher
Frank Schubert Composer
Sappho Poet
RuPaul Musician/Model
Plato Philosopher
Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion
Rod McKuen Poet
Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer
Greg Louganis Olympic Diver
k.d. lang Musician
Sir Elton John Musician
Janis Ian Musician
Sir John Gielgud Actor
Frederick the Great Emperor
Errol Flynn Actor
Melissa Etheridge Musician
Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief
Richard Chamberlain Actor
Lord Byron Poet
Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player
Marlon Brando Actor
Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter
Sandra Bernhardt Comic
Deborah Batts Federal Judge
Josephine Baker Singer
W.H. Auden Writer
Pedro Almodovar Film Director
Edward Albee Playwright
Ani DiFranco Musician
Pet Shop Boys Musicians
Meshell Ndegeocello Musician
Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M.


david bowie has no business being on this list, and john waters has no business being excluded from it (unless it's one of those mark twain things where he wouldn't want to be part of any club that would have him as a member).
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Reply #23 posted 05/19/05 2:57pm

doctormcmeekle

2teh9s said:

doctormcmeekle said:

My wife is gay.

nod


I can prove otherwise.

smile

Can I video you proving otherwise?

:martyfeldman:
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Reply #24 posted 05/19/05 2:57pm

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gay role models? good grief! does it matter the sexual orientaion or skin color of a person who is admirable? disbelief
Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater?
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Reply #25 posted 05/19/05 2:58pm

AsianBomb777

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

superspaceboy said:



lick I wish.



Garth is very supportive of gay rights. His sister, who used to play in his band, is gay.

Garth is very hot. I love it when he released that alter ego album. He reminded me of Prince on the cover.


M



Yup. People never really know that, but it's true.
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Reply #26 posted 05/19/05 2:59pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

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gay role models? good grief! does it matter the sexual orientaion or skin color of a person who is admirable? disbelief



It does matter when we "gay" people are treated like shit all the time in public, media what have you. And there are supposedly no gay do-gooders in this world.
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

One problem, politically, for having stars being the vocal advocates is that the assholes on the right can continue painting gay=hollywood elite. That bullshit flies so well with their constituency. It makes the issue seem trivial, as if all of us are Hollywood elitists and not just average Americans like everyone else. I wish we had more role models in the community. It would help the young generation so much.






deep dark closet cases
Now open your mouth and lets have a look at that brain
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Reply #28 posted 05/19/05 3:00pm

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superspaceboy said:

I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.

Virginia Woolf Writer
Oscar Wilde Writer
Andy Warhol Artist
Gore Vidal Writer
Yves Saint-Laurent Designer
Joseph Steffan Navy Officer
Bessie Smith Singer
Dick Sargent Actor
Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist
Georgia O'Keefe Artist
Paul Monette Artist
W. Somerset Maugham Writer
David Kopay Pro-Football Player
Indigo Girls Musicians
Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer
David Geffen Head of Geffen Records
Barney Frank Congressman
James Dean Actor
David Bowie Musician/Actor
Ruth Benedict Anthropologist
Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator
Joan Baez Musician
Sasha Alyson Publisher
Leonard Bernstein Composer
Allan Ginsberg Poet
Merv Griffin Entertainer
Keith Haring Artist
Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen
Calvin Klein Designer
Richard II British King
Peter Tchaikovsky Composer
Bill Tilden Tennis Player
The Village People Musicians
Wu Chinese Emperor
Tennessee Williams Playwright
Walt Whitman Writer
Tom Waddell Olympic Decath
Alice B. Toklas Writer
Gertrude Stein Writer
Gerry Studds Congressman
Socrates Philosopher
Frank Schubert Composer
Sappho Poet
RuPaul Musician/Model
Plato Philosopher
Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion
Rod McKuen Poet
Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer
Greg Louganis Olympic Diver
k.d. lang Musician
Sir Elton John Musician
Janis Ian Musician
Sir John Gielgud Actor
Frederick the Great Emperor
Errol Flynn Actor
Melissa Etheridge Musician
Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief
Richard Chamberlain Actor
Lord Byron Poet
Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player
Marlon Brando Actor
Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter
Sandra Bernhardt Comic
Deborah Batts Federal Judge
Josephine Baker Singer
W.H. Auden Writer
Pedro Almodovar Film Director
Edward Albee Playwright
Ani DiFranco Musician
Pet Shop Boys Musicians
Meshell Ndegeocello Musician
Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M.






these are role models? disbelief



btw, u forgot Prince and MJ and Goerge Michael



i'm just saying talk to the hand
Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater?
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Reply #29 posted 05/19/05 3:01pm

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klhk said:

superspaceboy said:

I found this list...though most are not living...and some never aligned themselves with the gay movement or community.

Virginia Woolf Writer
Oscar Wilde Writer
Andy Warhol Artist
Gore Vidal Writer
Yves Saint-Laurent Designer
Joseph Steffan Navy Officer
Bessie Smith Singer
Dick Sargent Actor
Bayard Rustin Civil Rights Activist
Georgia O'Keefe Artist
Paul Monette Artist
W. Somerset Maugham Writer
David Kopay Pro-Football Player
Indigo Girls Musicians
Bruce Hayes Olympic Swimmer
David Geffen Head of Geffen Records
Barney Frank Congressman
James Dean Actor
David Bowie Musician/Actor
Ruth Benedict Anthropologist
Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin Legislator
Joan Baez Musician
Sasha Alyson Publisher
Leonard Bernstein Composer
Allan Ginsberg Poet
Merv Griffin Entertainer
Keith Haring Artist
Freddie Mercury Lead Singer of Queen
Calvin Klein Designer
Richard II British King
Peter Tchaikovsky Composer
Bill Tilden Tennis Player
The Village People Musicians
Wu Chinese Emperor
Tennessee Williams Playwright
Walt Whitman Writer
Tom Waddell Olympic Decath
Alice B. Toklas Writer
Gertrude Stein Writer
Gerry Studds Congressman
Socrates Philosopher
Frank Schubert Composer
Sappho Poet
RuPaul Musician/Model
Plato Philosopher
Martina Navratilova Tennis Champion
Rod McKuen Poet
Ketih Meinhold Navy Officer
Greg Louganis Olympic Diver
k.d. lang Musician
Sir Elton John Musician
Janis Ian Musician
Sir John Gielgud Actor
Frederick the Great Emperor
Errol Flynn Actor
Melissa Etheridge Musician
Chief Crazy Horse Native American Chief
Richard Chamberlain Actor
Lord Byron Poet
Glenn Burke Pro-Basketball Player
Marlon Brando Actor
Chastity Bono Activist/Cher's Daughter
Sandra Bernhardt Comic
Deborah Batts Federal Judge
Josephine Baker Singer
W.H. Auden Writer
Pedro Almodovar Film Director
Edward Albee Playwright
Ani DiFranco Musician
Pet Shop Boys Musicians
Meshell Ndegeocello Musician
Michael Stipe Lead Singer of R.E.M.






these are role models? disbelief



btw, u forgot Prince and MJ and Goerge Michael



i'm just saying talk to the hand


I wouldn't put Prince or MJ on that list.....
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