DuckPurple said:[quote]

SquirrelMeat said:

The Icon book is made up of interviews with George. Are you suggesting that the author is making it up instead?

Star Wars Official Poster Magazine 1978, Issue One, mentions Star Wars being part of a 9 film saga. It also is the only official early document to mention Anakin losing a battle with Obi and falling into a lava pit. I was reading only a few weeks ago.

I'd have to dig out a couple of old interviews, but I think it was Starburst Magazine in 1980 where GL clearly states that Star Wars was scene one, act II of a three act play.

He has said it in many early interviews, but because of its age, a lot has not been digitised onto the internet.

The six film story only came about in 1998.

Personally, I don't blame him, I think 6, and the Story of Anakin is better.

Its quite obvious he is making the full story up as he goes along!

I bet Jet Lucas ends up making 8, 9 and 10! (shudder!)

Marrk said:

What, she doesn't know she is adopted? She took it well then!

General Kenobi did serve Bail Organa. The Jedi made a point of stating they said they serve the Senate, and Bail was on the high council of the senate. Thats why Mace attempted to make an arrest in the name of the senate.

DuckPurple said:

of course
it makes so much sense now.

to be honest i missed what Captain Antillies said to them so i had to ask someone "did he just say erase their memories" which was met by " aye,,shhh"

DuckPurple said:

Yeah, I thought that was a great touch!

Nothing as ridiculous as the typical nerd who poses as an evil guy.

DuckPurple said:[quote]

SquirrelMeat said:

Will this quote do?

Washington Post May 18th 1980. GL interview, with quotes.

"In choosing to film 'Star Wars' first, I chose the chapter I felt the most secure with. There are essentially nine films. The first trilogy is about the young Ben Kenobi and the early life of Luke Skywalker's father when Luke was a little boy . . . . The whole adventure, encompassing the three trilogies, spans about 40 years."

"I have story treatments on all nine films," added Lucas, who is now 36. "Then I've got voluminous notes, histories and material I've developed for various purposes. Some of it will be used, some will not . . . . It's a history. Luke is a pawn in an adventure that has been going on for longer than his span of years."
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Hehehe, I love the way you can keep this thread go for days, with new posts popping up every FIVE seconds!

DuckPurple said:

Not above ALL others... There are a very few people I would make an exception for, but generally, sure...


No... The option to get more pussy from the woman he loves, she's about to die remember? He just did it for his and her wellbeing... (And you can't say they had a real tight relationship together other than probably just mad Jedi sex, at least that's what I got from the movies...)


No, not for pussy for my own wellbeing... Like I said: Fuck the rest...
I could either kill myself (I'm not a fucking weakling so that's actually not an option...)
Or everyone else that stands in the way...
Innocent or not, if you stand in the way then that's too bad for you...

Neversin.

HamsterHuey said:

I can't, I have to go off and watch Revenge Of the Sith again!

SquirrelMeat said:

So am I

BorisFishpaw said:

Nerds!

hehehe
I did not think it was good enought to see more than once in the cinema. I'll wait til the DVD.

HamsterHuey said:

Its on DVD I'll be watching it tonight!.....after the pub of course!

SquirrelMeat said:

He indirectly served him then, whereas before the PT we all thought something a little different, i'm sure.

Marrk said:

Lets face it, Mr Lucas is making this shit up as he goes along!

SquirrelMeat said:

I'm suggesting that your quote didn't come From George Lucas, but from an author writing a book.

I'm telling you (even pointing you to an exact source) that Lucas has said there never was a plan for 7,8, and 9.

If you are asking me if she [Ms. Worrell] is lying...
Then are you suggesting Lucas is????

SquirrelMeat said:

GREAT...give me a soucre for this...because I just looked at a couple of posters, and they don't say that.

(I'm not trying to be a dink--I've heard this rumor since I was small child--but it's just rumor as far as I can tell. (You know how it goes...I heard if from a guy, who heard it from...))

SquirrelMeat said:

That doesn't mean anything. Lucas uses the 3-act structure in his work. Just because he describes something as being "like" the second act of the 3-act structure does not mean there is a third act.

SquirrelMeat said:

If those interviews exsist...cough 'em up--that would be all the proof I'd need.

No idea what you are talking about...the sixth film story? (Jedi???)

SquirrelMeat said:

That I wouldn't disagree with. (If he has time between his two Star Wars TV projects and rummored remaking of New Hope)

SquirrelMeat said:

That completely works for me.
...and so I say with assuredly, that George Lucas is a liar

(Thanks for digging that up!---I fold)

DuckPurple said:

George is playing with our minds! He is evil!

SquirrelMeat said:

I loved every second of it. Many of the reviews I skimmed prior to seeing the movie harped on and on about the bad dialogue and stiff acting, but really I think both of those aspects were much better in this film than they were in the previous two. It didn't bother me in the slightest.

My favorite kinds of SF films are those that create an entire new world, and Lucas did just that in this one. Really brilliant effects work, and the whole experience had a deeper emotional impact on me than I thought it would. I'm an easy cry, that much I know. But the slaughter of all the Jedi and Anakin's final transition to the dark side was really very moving. I cannot wait to see it again.

I saw the first showing yesterday, and the theatre was packed; not sold out, but really full. When we got out at 4:30 the line for the next showing was out the door!

SquirrelMeat said:

What happened to 7??

TMPletz said:

It was swayed over to the dark side and now resides up AB777's butt. It's what the 777 stands for, I think.

HamsterHuey said:

Luke: "Do you remember your mother, your real mother?"
Leia: "Just a little bit. She died when I was very young."
Luke: "What do you remember? Tell me."
Leia: "Just feelings, really...images."
Luke: "Tell me."
Leia: "She was very beautiful. Gentle and kind--but sad."

This leads me to believe that Leia is going more off of possible recordings than actual life experiences. As far as the feelings go, the Solo twins in the Timothy Zahn book trilogy can feel each others' presence much the same as Leia can feel their own and what they are feeling before they are born...almost empathic.

Ugh...gotta leave for work. I'll be back later.

Oh my, I forgot the BOOKS. Damn, Lucas is SO commercial. I never bought into the books, though. To me, Star Wars is a movie experience to take home and dream about.

Then again, I do have the lego boxes. I too have geekish tendencies.

But Dart Vader looks SO kewl in his Lego outfit.

I just finished Ep III an hour ago. As a dedicated Star Wars fan from the very beginning, I can say that this is the type of movie that I've been waiting for since the close of Return of the Jedi and the announcement of the prequels.

The effects were good, hell, great, but there were 2 real surprises in this movie. The characters actually seemed to warm up to each other. The doomed couple really seemed like . . . they liked, and maybe even loved, each other! The chemistry between Obi-Wan and Anakin was good. And I know he's just a character, but Yoda was awesome.

The pacing was, overall, very, very good. The movie seemed to move quickly in Act I, slow in Act II to set everything up, and then in Act III it really packed a wallop. But there were no silly characters, no drawn-out sequences that didn't fit, etc.

But the even bigger surprise is that I felt connected with the story. It was one of frustration, temptation, failure, misguided emotions, naivete, et al. You knew what was coming, but you felt for the characters when Anakin turns, the Jedi fell, Padme comes to realize the truth about Anakin, and the surviving Jedis' failure.

The only thing that held this movie back from possibly being the best of the 6 was the dialogue. It was better, but still a little too formal and stilted. But it didn't drag down the movie like it did in Episode II.

And I LOVED the last Padawan. That kid went out like a damn souljah!

namepeace said:

Oh man! I forgot!

That was amazing!

Can someone explain to me why a little green guy that walks with a limp and a cane, can suddenly and surprisingly just start flipping all over the place with light-saber in hand?

Just doesn't make sense...

SquirrelMeat said:

Towards the end of ROTS, Yoda spoke of Qui-Gon's ability to "overcome" or somewhat cheat death, or I guess in their case be able to reappear as ghosts. Something I found interesting because that was sort of the promise Palpatine told Anakin that he'd teach him once he joined the dark side. Sortra of saying that if he just had the patience, the main ower that persuaded him to turn the dark side would have been taught to him had remained a Jedi. Got lots more thoughts on this GREAT movie, but I'll save them for another post.
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muirdo said:

Yep, it was only C-3PO. In the novel, he goes off about how it'll be so much fun to tell the story of Padme and Anakin to Leia when she's old enough, and that's when Bail Organa interjects that he will have his memory wiped. R2, on the other hand, is a sneaky litte bastard (as seen in ANH) and can be trusted with any secrets. Obi-Wan probably didn't recognize the droids in ANH when he first met up with them on Tatooine simply because, as we've seen, the styles of droids are somewhat popular, and that he probably didn't expect the same two droids to ever show up on Tatooine looking for him. I'm sure once he saw Leia's holographic message that it all clicked, and he decided not to reveal that to Luke because of the secrets of the past that Luke really didn't need to know at this point (such as the identity of his daddy).



I only wish they would have had a closer view of Tarkin since the actor in makeup SERIOUSLY looked like Peter Cushing!

The things that interested me:

1. When Mace Windu spoke to Yoda about destroying the Sith and taking control of the Senate, Yoda recoiled. Which showed . . .

2. Maybe Sidious was right about the Jedi. Maybe they were arrogant and fearful enough of losing power to play right into his hands.

3. It seemed at the end that, when the truth is revealed to Vader, Sidious has tricked him by telling him his "anger" killed Padme. But Sidious was right.

4. Sidious' words to Anakin about the Jedi hiding things from him . . . sounds like many of the fights over religion we have today . . . Church X isn't telling you all the whole truth to keep you down . . . etc., etc., etc.

5. The allusions to Bush ran deeper than I thought, but not so deep that they will be lost on future generations. The message is universal. Sometimes we have to be courageous enough to know when we may need protection from our protectors. Whether that applies to Bush, I dunno. But the message is there.

6. This flick provides the gravitas for the whole series.

Back to this NOOOOO thing.

Think of it as this - it is the very last of Anakin leaking away, the very last time he shows any emotion -after this point all he has is Hate and Anger. Anakin is truly dead after that point because he has no hope, no wife, no friends, no freedom - he is a slave; Anakin is gone Vader is all that is left.

In the next 3 films (except for the end of Jedi) is is totally emotionless.

Given that intention - how else would you put that on screen, teh last of Anakin slipping away.

I think "Noooo" is the only way you can show the dispair of Anakin relaising he has been responsible for the very thing he was tryingto present - EVERYTHING and EVERYONE he loved has gone. If he wasnt wearing a mask then you could show that easily but with a mask it has to be obvious.

And of course he isnt teh big Tough ass Vader that we see 20 years later - this is still pretty much a lad