all im saying is.. lighten up a bit, try and lend a helping hand to someone you see that may be down instead of kicking him

nakedpianoplayer said:

He was encouraged by several Orgers to seek help. And, personally, I don't think "lighten up" is an appropriate phrase in regards to sensitivity about genocide.

nakedpianoplayer said:

He was encouraged by several Orgers to seek help. And, personally, I don't think "lighten up" is an appropriate phrase in regards to sensitivity about genocide.

Ace said:

that & just being ignorant about stuff like that! This is an open community, lots of different people come here.....i.e. who knows there are people people here that are of jewish decent, and are madly offended by him calling Hitler his hero for whatever reason?

or maybe youre just looking for an arguement


find it somewhere else, k ?

He's gone to conquer Europe.

im saying, if you LISTEN to me.... how bout NOT throwing gas on an open fire here guys ??? try to be a bit more 'helpful' instead of seeing just how horrible you can make this situation.

nakedpianoplayer said:

Not looking for an argument, I just don't think saying people should "lighten up" regarding such a sensitive issue is appropriate.

Ace said:

dont do that.. you KNOW thats not what i mean !!!

nakedpianoplayer said:

So, why don't you explain what you meant by that? And you obviously didn't take the time to read my last post before firing off yours.

Ace said:

i thought you understood what i meant by the very first post here. IMO its not that difficult to understand, we are adults - right ?? why arent we able to see eye to eye about the welfare of a very young, very troubled teen ? see, thats half the problem with the world today, we have lost the 'it takes a village' idea and replaced it with 'i am not my brother's keeper'

nakedpianoplayer said:

I have expressed none of that sentiment here.

And you still haven't explained what you meant by "lighten up".

Words of wisdom

nakedpianoplayer said:

lets do it real slow now, so not to lead to any sort of 'confusion'.

Why is it so strange or bad to find Hitler a heroic figure, or inspiring?! Hmm...let's see... Maybe because he was responsible for genocide? And, since "in reality, he only actually killed one person himself", I guess I could be a hero to you if I was powerful enough to have your family killed, as long as I didn't bloody my own hands? Dude, are you on the pipe?

[snipped. keep on with the discussion/debate if you wanna, but easy on the flames. - anx]

Dewrede said:

Ditto.

I don't think there is anyone here who would disagree that calling Hitler your hero is incredibly offensive. Would you do the same with someone who was responsible for hate-crimes against gays, African-Americans, etc.? Would you call them a "hero"?
[Edited 4/26/05 14:42pm]

If I were an incredible leader of an anti-gay group, or The Klan, would you refer to me as a "hero"?

Kid, get to the shrink before it's too late.

RazzBeret said:

Seriously - please get yourself some help before you hurt yourself or others.

alright, i read the thread... and you are young, so i have to go 'motherly' with you.. please bear with me.


darlin, you CANNOT truely believe the things that you have posted in that thread... if you do, i seriously think you need to get in to talk with someone right away. im not going to sit back and throw stones at you, nor am i attacking you by saying this, i can sort of... i repeat SORT OF understand what you are saying when you say that he was a powerful man.... this is very true

HOWEVER, he was a very powerful, EVIL man, one who ordered thousands to be killed over his 'beliefs'. i agree with joey, he was a coward in what he did, how he did it, and then the fact that he killed himself. there is NOTHING there to look up to - other than that fact that he somehow had so many people under his control. you could have chosen many, many other leaders that made a huge difference in our history that were GREAT, RESPECTABLE HEROS, and you wouldnt have recieved that type of response.

now, make no mistake about this, this borders on what i would usually jump down a persons throat for, being that my children are bi-racial.. i will not ever stand behind someone that agrees with killing a group of people based on their race, look, religion, or otherwise.... hell, i cant even believe that im being this calm about this.

AGAIN HOWEVER... i have read your writings of being in a situation that would warrent some medical help. you NEED to sit down and go through your problems, get on some sort of medication to get you leveled out.. because, there is NO REASON to ruin your young life over this type of thinking. also, in keeping true with myself.. you have seen what i have written about children scaring me to death with the thought of hurting kids in schools... now, whether you meant that or not, that really doesnt concern me at this point, the idea that you could even SAY that is frightening enough to me. it is my most heartfelt advice that you seek some sort of help right away, tomorrow is not really soon enough... dont throw your life away just because you are having a hard time thinking clearly.

please, get help somewhere..... for you, and for all the folks who live in this world with you

best wishes
NPP

RazzBeret said:

no no, thats not an exceptable answer .... you have to get SERIOUS help, help that will make a difference... you need to be on medication, you need therapy... and im not saying anything to you that i wouldnt say to my own child. what you have said is scary, very very scary... it is borderline psychotic and it needs IMMEDIATE attention.

all you have to do, is walk into any hospital and explain how you feel that hitler is one of our greatest heros and that you feel like you want to be like him and maybe kill thousands of people.... they WILL take you seriously, and they WILL help you !!

that really doesnt have much to do with it im afraid.. in this case, the young man truely has some twisted ideas floating around in his head.... ones that need attention right away. being on this website, or any other for that matter has little to nothing to do with this.

ok, sweetheart, you are 14 years old how many different meds have you been on ??? not all meds are going to work on all people, you need to be watched closely as you take these, and make sure that they are doing what they need to for you. do you have living parents ?? are you with them ?? are they aware of your desires and/or dreams of hurting others ??? seriously, i am speaking to you as a person that TAKES meds daily to keep emotions running smoothly.... though, i can honestly say, i have NEVER had thoughts like these..... i can also honestly say that to have ANY thoughts that you dont understand can be very frightening. again, what meds have they tried ?? and have you ever been in to stay for an observation period ?? perhaps like a month or so of serious evaluations and medication therapy ?? im not saying this to be hurtful, i swear im not, im not even feeling 'angry' toward you... im saying that for your own good (as if you were to do any of this, you would be looking at a lifetime of guilt, prison, or death... none of which i think you are truely after). please, please, please... get some help.

ok hun, in true mother style, im checking up on you....

its tomorrow, did you go talk to someone yet ???

this is the thread... http://www.prince.org/msg/100/142861 from which i took your comments, every one of them for you to review.

Ace said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

just sayin
[Edited 5/18/05 13:54pm]

thesexofit said:

now you are talking shit. Posting a pic of Adolf and saying you admire him is indeed a no-no and it's irresponsible!!