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Thread started 05/17/05 6:17am

3121

Starnge experience.

Hi,
I wanted to take this opportunity to talk about a series of strange experiences i had upon going to bed on sunday evening.

Part 1

My girlfriend and I got into bed at her appartment around 12:30am. She was realy tierd but i wasn't. As i watched t.v with the volume really low, she fell asleep with my left arm cradling her, with her head resting inside my shoulder. Shortly after, she started to jolt her body and her breathing became quite heavy and irregular. I assumed she was having a bad dream so i kissed her forehead and told her that everything was ok in the hope that she would be able to hear me subconciously and calm down. This seemed to work for a while, but after 20 minutes or so, it began again. However, this time my partner started to scratch my chest rapidly and hard. This activity was broken by the shock in my voice waking her up because during this time i had started to drift off slightly myself. We both soon settled back into a restfull state.

Part 2

Around 3.30am I was suddenly awakened by the sound of a door opening and a succession of 'noises' comming from the front room i.e knocks and bangs. I instantly thought that somebody had broken into the place. i gently sat up in the bed so not to wake my girlfriend and to also to allow me to look through the bedroom door into the hallway. I sat in silence just watching and waiting to see somebody. Again, more noises. I was certain somebody was in the place. By this time i was wide awake, adrenaline pumping in my body. I was ready to kick ass. As i started to get out of bed my girlfriend opened her eyes and worryingly asked what was i doing. She knew that something wasn't right so i just turned around and said motioned put my index finger to my lips to signal for her to be silent. I crept out of the bedroom, shuting the door behind me so my girlfriend was locked in, into the darkness of the hallway. The hallway is the centre of the appartment and every room can be accessed from it. I walked into every room, and investigated every part of them in darkness. I decided not to turn the light on in case a paticular room was unoccupied but the light would a) highlight that somebody was aware of an intruder and b) reveal which room i was in and assist in aiding a sucessful escape oute for them.

I checked the entire house, wardrobes, under tables, everywhere....even in silly place where a adult body couldnt possibly fit. I left nothing to chance. Upon being satisfied that nobody was inside the appartment i then turned the lights on and gave a final check including windows etc. Everything was in order, so i returned to bed. Needless to say, my girlfriend was by this time petrified and it took about an hour to reassure her that everything was fine and that it was ok for her to go back to sleep. I can't explain what happened. I definately heard something several times. I do not drink or take drugs, i wasn't particulary tierd or stressed etc....


Part 3

After this incident i fell back to sleep about 4:45ish. During sleep state i had an experience unlike any dream i had ever experienced before. It felt exceptionally real. I can only describe it as if i was awake inside my dream - As is i had physically entered my mind and was able to walk through a series of perculier dream 'sets'. At one point i found myself dropped into a large field, surrounded by a dry stone wall. Beyond the wall was just endless moorland 360 degrees around, all the way to the horizon. The atmosphere was calm but the sky was shielded with dark looming clouds which seemed to be filled with an 'emotional' energy. As if they were ready to unleash an awesome storm.

I vividly remeber turning around and being greeted by a black hooded figure who appeared out of nowhere. I found out the the individual was a woman and she told me to follower her to a corner of the field. As we sat down, she removed her hood to reveal a woman in her late 40's with blonde hair. She began to ask me a series of questions such as who my first ever girlfriend was, painful experiences of my life, my favourite pieces of music. So many questions, but never did they feel intrusive or painful to recall. She said that she was going to place all of my answers 'feelings' into a stone. She did this by drawing a stone shaped outline on a piece of A3 paper and entered key words from the answers i gave. We walked to each corner of the field as we continued this process.

Upon reaching the last corner, we sat down again and she instructed me to look into her eyes. I folloed her instructions and her pupils began to flash rapidly from black to a bright red in irregular patterns. Each eye flashing alternately, then together, then just one, then fast then slow. At this point i began to feel very uneasy and i began to close my eyes out of fear, i guess. she told me that when i next open my eyes i would not be in the same place. At this time i felt my entire body float up into the air and then turn horizontal, then begin to descend. I remained with my eyes closed by this time petrified, it was more than a dream, i felt conscious and the feelings were extremely lucid. As i began the descent beethovens moonlight sonata began to play (this is my favourite but most painful piece of music to listen to).

I felt myself 'land' gently on a surface but I would not dare open my eyes to see where i was. By this time i was genuinely 'awake' and i felt a presence in the room comming closer to me. The individual came right to my face. i could tell this as the light through my eyelids became shadowed. I was so scared. A hand was placed upon my face and i literally screamed out loud and jumped out of my skin! my eyes opened and i was still in my girlfriends bed. it was her who 'greeted' me back into being waking state. She concerndly asked what was wrong as my action was so strange, and even moreso considering the time - 9:30am!

It was such a bizarre experience, it wasn't a dream, or if it was, it was unlike anything i had experienced before. I discussed it later in the day with my girlfriend. She said that the night felt erie to her in general. It was indeed, and i don't have the 1st idea what any of it was about.
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Reply #1 posted 05/17/05 6:22am

Nefi

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Maybe you had an out of body experience but you dont know how to control it yet.

I know people that can do it sitting right in front of me, have gone into my house and told me what colour my walls are and percific ornaments I have in my house.

Scary stuff but it does happen.
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Reply #2 posted 05/17/05 6:25am

Novabreaker

Sounds like weed
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Reply #3 posted 05/17/05 6:26am

Nefi

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Use your third eye....
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so everymorning i take a look in the mirror and tell myself Damn I'm fly
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Reply #4 posted 05/17/05 6:35am

3121

Novabreaker said:

Sounds like weed



I don't drink or take any drugs at all. I don't even use headache tablets. i am of sound mental health and i exercise regular. my diet is healthy, too. I wasn't seeking understaning, i just wanted to share the experience.
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Reply #5 posted 05/17/05 6:46am

Mach

eek wow ... deeply interesting ....
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Reply #6 posted 05/17/05 6:50am

XxAxX

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3121 said:

Novabreaker said:

Sounds like weed



I don't drink or take any drugs at all. I don't even use headache tablets. i am of sound mental health and i exercise regular. my diet is healthy, too. I wasn't seeking understaning, i just wanted to share the experience.


well i'm no expert but sometimes i have odd dreams too. in my own experience there are all kinds of dreams, from random mish-mash images to future dreams and i do believe that some dreams are actually a form of existence/consciousness at a different 'level'. i don't really have an explanation for you but thought i'd speak up and say you aren't going crazy.
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Reply #7 posted 05/17/05 7:05am

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When I moved into my first apartment last year, I used to hear all sorts of crazy things. My bedroom was right in the middle of everything. I had the upper level of a 200 year old house. One could come in from the kitchen or the living room, and the bedroom was between the two.

Point is, I often heard odd things and had to get up and investigate. One night, in the first week of December, I remember becoming quite horrified by a noise I heard in my kitchen. I went to investigate, SWEARING something was in a cabinet. I got close to the cabinet, and could've sworn I heard something hissing at me. I ran like hell, slamming the door between the kitchen/dining room and my bedroom behind me. I called my then-boyfriend N. immediately, only to have him reassure me it was nothing and if he thought it was, he'd come the mile it was from his house to check it out. Needless to say, that made me feel no better. I propped a chair up against the cabinet, and called my landlord, who made it down first thing in the morning. I spent the entire night terrified, and EVERYTHING I heard seemed so much louder and as if I wasn't alone.

It ended up there is NO way anything could've gotten in to my cabinet. I'm just a pansy. smile

As for the dream you experienced, almost ALL of my dreams are such that I know I'm dreaming. I can be dreaming of say, someone breaking in to my house to kill me, realize immediately I'm having a dream, and then proceed to kick ass kung-fu style if I want to. I can manipulate it any which way. I'm not entirely sure what that means, but if that's something like what you're saying, maybe we're both abnormal.

Things generally seem REAL, but my mind also knows they're very much NOT so I take control. Even in those falling dreams I sometimes realize, and so I reinvent myself in such a way I can fly.
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Reply #8 posted 05/17/05 8:22am

pawpaw

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its called crack cocaine

next please biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 05/17/05 8:47am

REDFEATHERS

pawpaw said:

its called crack cocaine

next please biggrin



falloff
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Reply #10 posted 05/17/05 8:49am

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REDFEATHERS said:

pawpaw said:

its called crack cocaine

next please biggrin



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somebody spiked 3121's 7up
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Reply #11 posted 05/17/05 9:28am

XxAxX

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ooo. check this out, i found it while reading up on the 'popo bawa' phenomenon:

http://watarts.uwaterloo..../S_P2.html


Sleep Paralysis

and

Associated Hypnagogic and Hypnopompic Experiences



Sleep Paralysis




Nightmare (Detail)

Henry Fuseli
Sleep paralysis, or more properly, sleep paralysis with hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations have been singled out as a particularly likely source of beliefs concerning not only alien abductions, but all manner of beliefs in alternative realities and otherworldly creatures. Sleep paralysis is a condition in which someone, most often lying in a supine position, about to drop off to sleep, or just upon waking from sleep realizes that s/he is unable to move, or speak, or cry out. This may last a few seconds or several moments, occasionally longer. People frequently report feeling a "presence" that is often described as malevolent, threatening, or evil. An intense sense of dread and terror is very common. The presence is likely to be vaguely felt or sensed just out of sight but thought to be watching or monitoring, often with intense interest, sometimes standing by, or sitting on, the bed. On some occasions the presence may attack, strangling and exerting crushing pressure on the chest. People also report auditory, visual, proprioceptive, and tactile hallucinations, as well as floating sensations and out-of-body experiences (Hufford, 1982). These various sensory experiences have been referred to collectively as hypnagogic and hypnopompic experiences (HHEs). People frequently try, unsuccessfully, to cry out. After seconds or minutes one feels suddenly released from the paralysis, but may be left with a lingering anxiety. Extreme effort to move may even produce phantom movements in which there is proprioceptive feedback of movement that conflicts with visual disconfirmation of any movement of the limb. People may also report severe pain in the limbs when trying to move them. Several recent surveys including our own suggest that between 25-30% of the population reports that they have experienced at least a mild form of sleep paralysis at least once and about 20-30% of these have had the experience on several occasions. A few people may have very elaborate experiences almost nightly (or many times in a night) for years. Aside from many of the very disturbing features of the experience itself (described in succeeding sections) the phenomenon is quite benign. It was thought in the past that it was a significant part of the so-called "narcoleptic tetrad", but recent surveys of non-clinical populations, such as ours, suggest that the prevalence may be as high among the general population as among diagnosed narcoleptics.

continued .. ..


crappity crap typing edit
[Edited 5/17/05 9:28am]
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Reply #12 posted 05/17/05 9:55am

Mach

XxAxX said:

ooo. check this out, i found it while reading up on the 'popo bawa' phenomenon:


omg Ya DONE SAID THE NAME again ... omg
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Reply #13 posted 05/17/05 9:56am

unlucky7

XxAxX said:

ooo. check this out, i found it while reading up on the 'popo bawa' phenomenon:

http://watarts.uwaterloo..../S_P2.html


Sleep Paralysis

and

Associated Hypnagogic and Hypnopompic Experiences



Sleep Paralysis




Nightmare (Detail)

Henry Fuseli
Sleep paralysis, or more properly, sleep paralysis with hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations have been singled out as a particularly likely source of beliefs concerning not only alien abductions, but all manner of beliefs in alternative realities and otherworldly creatures. Sleep paralysis is a condition in which someone, most often lying in a supine position, about to drop off to sleep, or just upon waking from sleep realizes that s/he is unable to move, or speak, or cry out. This may last a few seconds or several moments, occasionally longer. People frequently report feeling a "presence" that is often described as malevolent, threatening, or evil. An intense sense of dread and terror is very common. The presence is likely to be vaguely felt or sensed just out of sight but thought to be watching or monitoring, often with intense interest, sometimes standing by, or sitting on, the bed. On some occasions the presence may attack, strangling and exerting crushing pressure on the chest. People also report auditory, visual, proprioceptive, and tactile hallucinations, as well as floating sensations and out-of-body experiences (Hufford, 1982). These various sensory experiences have been referred to collectively as hypnagogic and hypnopompic experiences (HHEs). People frequently try, unsuccessfully, to cry out. After seconds or minutes one feels suddenly released from the paralysis, but may be left with a lingering anxiety. Extreme effort to move may even produce phantom movements in which there is proprioceptive feedback of movement that conflicts with visual disconfirmation of any movement of the limb. People may also report severe pain in the limbs when trying to move them. Several recent surveys including our own suggest that between 25-30% of the population reports that they have experienced at least a mild form of sleep paralysis at least once and about 20-30% of these have had the experience on several occasions. A few people may have very elaborate experiences almost nightly (or many times in a night) for years. Aside from many of the very disturbing features of the experience itself (described in succeeding sections) the phenomenon is quite benign. It was thought in the past that it was a significant part of the so-called "narcoleptic tetrad", but recent surveys of non-clinical populations, such as ours, suggest that the prevalence may be as high among the general population as among diagnosed narcoleptics.

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crappity crap typing edit
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I get that evry once an awhile, mostly if I sleep on my back or side.
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Reply #14 posted 05/17/05 9:56am

doctormcmeekle

Run to the hills!

omfg
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Reply #15 posted 05/17/05 9:59am

unlucky7

doctormcmeekle said:

Run to the hills!

omfg


lol
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Reply #16 posted 05/17/05 10:12am

XxAxX

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Mach said:

XxAxX said:

ooo. check this out, i found it while reading up on the 'popo bawa' phenomenon:


omg Ya DONE SAID THE NAME again ... omg



i love that name!!!! i know it's supposed to be scary but i'm telling you even just thinking the words 'popo bawa' makes me giggle
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Reply #17 posted 05/17/05 10:30am

3121

It was very starnge indeed. The power of the mind is amazing to me.
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Reply #18 posted 05/17/05 10:56am

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3121 said:

It was very starnge indeed. The power of the mind is amazing to me.

i dont know what happened to you, but, i believe you believe something did nod so, for that i send out my hug 's.... as things like this can sometimes make you feel a bit nervous rose
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Reply #19 posted 05/17/05 11:22am

TMPletz


Is this a picture of your apartment?


razz
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Reply #20 posted 05/17/05 3:30pm

3121

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3121 said:

It was very starnge indeed. The power of the mind is amazing to me.

i dont know what happened to you, but, i believe you believe something did nod so, for that i send out my hug 's.... as things like this can sometimes make you feel a bit nervous rose


it was indeed bizarre. Especially as my girlfriend said that she felt the whole night to be erie. it was so strange, just felt different. can't explain how.
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