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Reply #30 posted 05/16/05 6:42am

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Here is the point.. Everyone who is saying its cool is talking bout their own parents or children..


I'm not saying it's cool. I was only wondering what the difference really is.

What you do in your house is YOUR business right, fine, but when YOU do your shit in front of SOMEBODY ELSE'S KIDS that is where I draw the line. She does not have the right to EXPOSE YOUR kid to her drugs or anything else that you might not approve of. If she wants to spark up with her kids in the house cool, but don't do it in front of someone elses' without lettin' the parent know how you get down.


Technically she doesn't have the right to do either as it's illegal. razz
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Reply #31 posted 05/16/05 6:55am

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JoeyMFinCoco said:

nammie said:

Here is the point.. Everyone who is saying its cool is talking bout their own parents or children..


I'm not saying it's cool. I was only wondering what the difference really is.


What you do in your house is YOUR business right, fine, but when YOU do your shit in front of SOMEBODY ELSE'S KIDS that is where I draw the line. She does not have the right to EXPOSE YOUR kid to her drugs or anything else that you might not approve of. If she wants to spark up with her kids in the house cool, but don't do it in front of someone elses' without lettin' the parent know how you get down.


Technically she doesn't have the right to do either as it's illegal. razz

Amen to that, I wasnt gonna go there!! LOL.

And my point about it being "cool" (bad choice of words there) was that is was from a parent/child point of view not from an adult who was doing it in front of somebody elses children
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Reply #32 posted 05/16/05 7:59am

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Guess I'm in the minority opinion here, because I don't actually see anything wrong with it. I grew up around adults who regularly smoked pot in front of their kids (that'd be my dad and a lot of my parent's friends) and I turned out alright. My opinion might change if I had kids myself, but I doubt it. You're entitled to do whatever you feel's best for your kids though. smile

Yes, marijuana is illegal, but IMO it shouldn't be. Unfortunately, we're dealing with lawmakers and enforcers who like to pretend that caffeine, nicotine and alcohol use don't cause any damage, and are therefore okay for consumption and fantastic moneymakers to boot, but not marijuana. Not to say that pot isn't without unpleasant side-effects either, but if you were to look into the statistics, there's more injury and death attributed to alcohol and even caffeine abuse than THC. I know I can function normally after a joint or two, (BC Bud, even! Strong shit, that.) but even the amount of caffeine in plain tea fucks me up for the whole day. eek

It's also true that the money dealers make off selling weed often goes to fund higher organized crime, but there's a simple solution to that. Make marijuana legal, at least in small amounts. If it was legal to have a plant or two with a grow light stashed in your closet, you wouldn't need to go to a dealer, and none of your hard earned cash is going towards the real criminals out there. thumbs up!


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ok, you turned out ok... thats a great thing hug however, in my opinion we have a hard enough world for the kids to grow up in these days. things arent like they were when i was young and the biggest danger really was smoking pot or drinking disbelief now you have crazy ass drugs out there that just scare the living shit outta any parent !!! who's to say that someday they wont make pot legal ?? but we're not there yet. and even when they do - you STILL have the issues of it changing your mental ability to carry on with your normal activities... hey, i smoked pot daily for years and LOVED it !! but, looking back, i was not myself (even when i thought i was) out there driving and whatnot. it is a sad state when we believe that we can do this or drink and then get behind the wheel of a car and we are just fine.... not saying i havent been there, but im damn sure saying its not all peaches and cream either.

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Reply #33 posted 05/16/05 8:01am

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No mind altering drug should be legal.



ok, but thats just not how it is these days.

alcohol is legal, and we all know what that does to folks.
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P.S. Sometimes mommies have to be the enemy hug

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I'd never smoke weed in front of children
But there's nothing wrong with smoking weed in general !
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Reply #36 posted 05/16/05 8:14am

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I'd never smoke weed in front of children
But there's nothing wrong with smoking weed in general !
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Any good parent will use weed to take the edge off a speedball high before they feed their kids and get them ready for school, no....?




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Reply #37 posted 05/16/05 8:14am

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JoeyMFinCoco said:

Other than the fact that it's illegal, is it really any different from drinking a few glasses of wine in front of your kids? Lots of people do that and no one thinks there's anything wrong with that.

this is a good thought.

and heres how i feel about that one...

i wouldnt let my children hang out with a drunk either. now joey, before you get all freakin crazy with me and say 'but you drink'.... lets review my life. i believe i have had margaritas one night, which didnt go so well lol and i have had beer, YES beer eek on another night since new years eve. and while i was rather trashed that one night.. and i admit that, my children weren't here. have they ever seen me drink ??? well sure. have they ever seen me have a few to many ?? of course its happened. but on a regular basis, how often do i drink ?? maybe 3-4 times a year. im just not a big drinker shrug and hell, even when i DO drink, i am pretty tipsy with just one or two drinks. and i NEVER take the kids out after i've started drinking....


the law is, you have to be 21 to drink. i am way over that... and if my kids remember anything about me, they better remember the other 360 days a year that i wasnt drinking and that i was right here with them doing homework, making dinner, and cleaning house. if smoking pot were legal, it would be a different discussion.... but, since its not... i totally disagree with what shes doing with her kids and the best i can do is keep mine out of the way sad
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Of course you have the right to disagree with this lady, but I think it is better to talk with her directly. It's an adult-question, I mean you clearly want to keep your daughter away from this lady, well then talk to this lady herself, instead of risking a misunderstanding between the two girls. Their friendship has nothing to do with one of the mothers smoking pot and the other one disagreeing with them.

If my mother would have prevented me seeing certain kids at an earlier age, I guess I wouldn't have the same friends as I have now. Some were smoking cigarettes, other were drinking, my mum's has been kind of drunk in front of me as well...

I don't know how I would react as a mum. I guess I would rather have a mother smoke pot than taking the kids to Mac Donald's. When you smoke pot you're doing it yourself (although I know there is something like passive smoking), when you give them the horrible MacDonald's food for example, you're feeding them with something that is bairly food.

For me, it's kind of hard to draw strict lines between drinking, smoking, smoking pot, eating MacDonalds, watching stupid television-shows, not cooking properly when your kids are around...

i think that if your children see you drinking every once and a while, thats one thing.... smoking pot is another. as far as smoking goes, its not a good thing either - cigarettes are bad.... however, i do smoke. mcdonalds ??? really ??? i wouldnt see this as being part of this conversation, however, i dont like to see when a child is offered nothing but that type of food disbelief i think its terribly sad. TV... yeah, maybe not the best of things - but definately not the same as drugs !

i hear the point about talking to the mom, and i will try that first. actually, bri never went to her house before, they used to always come here instead. kids are quick, and she knows too much about this shit for my tastes sigh
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I think you should speak to the women...I think she's extremely rude to just assume you'd be fine with it....BUT...unless the women says I'm sorry but I'm still gonna smoke even if your kids around...well then I wouldn't let her over there but...I'd talk to the mom first.

but to tell the truth...I'd be more pissed if she smoked cigarettes all day in that house with my kid in there....especially in the car! second hand cigarette smoke is WAY worse in my mind and lot's of people see nothing wrong with that.

to those who think "any mind altering drug should be illegal"....I feel you don't really know what you're asking for. Don't ask the government to make things you don't particularly care for illegal...it's a dangerous route to take...if you don't like drugs and don't want to do them then don't...but I think making the use of them illegal is NOT a good idea. Sure it should be illegal to use them and drive..because that endangers the life of others but..I personally feel we should be "allowed" to do what we want.
but hey...you know...that's just me. smile
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nammie said:

Here is the point.. Everyone who is saying its cool is talking bout their own parents or children.. What you do in your house is YOUR business right, fine, but when YOU do your shit in front of SOMEBODY ELSE'S KIDS that is where I draw the line. She does not have the right to EXPOSE YOUR kid to her drugs or anything else that you might not approve of. If she wants to spark up with her kids in the house cool, but don't do it in front of someone elses' without lettin' the parent know how you get down.

thank you clapping thats what i was trying to say... if she wants to smoke, great, go for it..... just NOT IN FRONT OF MY BABY !!!!!
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Reply #41 posted 05/16/05 8:26am

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I think you should speak to the women...I think she's extremely rude to just assume you'd be fine with it....BUT...unless the women says I'm sorry but I'm still gonna smoke even if your kids around...well then I wouldn't let her over there but...I'd talk to the mom first.

but to tell the truth...I'd be more pissed if she smoked cigarettes all day in that house with my kid in there....especially in the car! second hand cigarette smoke is WAY worse in my mind and lot's of people see nothing wrong with that.

to those who think "any mind altering drug should be illegal"....I feel you don't really know what you're asking for. Don't ask the government to make things you don't particularly care for illegal...it's a dangerous route to take...if you don't like drugs and don't want to do them then don't...but I think making the use of them illegal is NOT a good idea. Sure it should be illegal to use them and drive..because that endangers the life of others but..I personally feel we should be "allowed" to do what we want.
but hey...you know...that's just me. smile


i hear what youre saying. and as i have said here, i am guilty of smoking cigarettes..... and i KNOW the reason this happened to me is because my entire family smokes, so growing up, it was 'alright'.

my grandfather smoked, as did my aunt, my father, my mother, my sister, my brother and myself sigh and as horrible as that is, it kinda supports my orginal statement.... if you smoke pot in front of your kids, they will grow up thinking its ok shrug
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I agree, I wouldn't let my child play at that house either. BUT - I would let her know exactly why, how to behave around the other child, that the other child may now come to our house to play so they can remain friends, etc. Witholding info from your kids (the old, because I'm your parent and I say so) is silly. And potentially damaging. I HATED when my parents said that to me. Kids have a greater capacity for understanding then we usually give them credit for. If my parents had to resort to that kind of logic, I would lose respect for them, cause they couldn't even tell me WHY something was bad or not allowed or what have you.
And I certainly wouldn't suddenly not let my child go ANYWHERE. I would just make sure I met the parents first before allowing my child to spend time at someone else's house.
Of course, I don't have any kids, and likely won't ever have any.

this was my first reaction to figure out what and how to handle this situation without directly saying, you cant go there because she is getting high in front of you.... i know that this isnt the solution, but im trying to buy some time to figure out how to handle this.

and i did meet the woman, a few months back, and honestly i thought she was like totally religious shrug it was a TOTAL shock to me to find out that she was getting high. i wish there was a way that you could ask folks.... hey, before my kids go over there, do you use drugs ??? although, i have taught my children to ask if there are weapons in the home.... they are not allowed to go to houses that have guns.
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Reply #43 posted 05/16/05 8:34am

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how old are your children ?





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Shorty said:

I think you should speak to the women...I think she's extremely rude to just assume you'd be fine with it....BUT...unless the women says I'm sorry but I'm still gonna smoke even if your kids around...well then I wouldn't let her over there but...I'd talk to the mom first.

but to tell the truth...I'd be more pissed if she smoked cigarettes all day in that house with my kid in there....especially in the car! second hand cigarette smoke is WAY worse in my mind and lot's of people see nothing wrong with that.

to those who think "any mind altering drug should be illegal"....I feel you don't really know what you're asking for. Don't ask the government to make things you don't particularly care for illegal...it's a dangerous route to take...if you don't like drugs and don't want to do them then don't...but I think making the use of them illegal is NOT a good idea. Sure it should be illegal to use them and drive..because that endangers the life of others but..I personally feel we should be "allowed" to do what we want.
but hey...you know...that's just me. smile


i hear what youre saying. and as i have said here, i am guilty of smoking cigarettes..... and i KNOW the reason this happened to me is because my entire family smokes, so growing up, it was 'alright'.

my grandfather smoked, as did my aunt, my father, my mother, my sister, my brother and myself sigh and as horrible as that is, it kinda supports my orginal statement.... if you smoke pot in front of your kids, they will grow up thinking its ok shrug


me personally...I think I'd rather have my kid think smoking pot was ok and smoking cigarettes was not. (almost 3 years non-smoking for me..smoked from the age of 12 to 29) Although as resonable adults..I'm sure our kids will grow up to realize...anything in moderation is OK but anything to excess is not, be it food, alcohol, drugs, whateva..right?. too bad smokin' butts couldn't be done in moderation...huh. shrug it's a hard call to make...I know.
smile good luck to ya.
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Shorty said:

nakedpianoplayer said:



i hear what youre saying. and as i have said here, i am guilty of smoking cigarettes..... and i KNOW the reason this happened to me is because my entire family smokes, so growing up, it was 'alright'.

my grandfather smoked, as did my aunt, my father, my mother, my sister, my brother and myself sigh and as horrible as that is, it kinda supports my orginal statement.... if you smoke pot in front of your kids, they will grow up thinking its ok shrug


me personally...I think I'd rather have my kid think smoking pot was ok and smoking cigarettes was not. (almost 3 years non-smoking for me..smoked from the age of 12 to 29) Although as resonable adults..I'm sure our kids will grow up to realize...anything in moderation is OK but anything to excess is not, be it food, alcohol, drugs, whateva..right?. too bad smokin' butts couldn't be done in moderation...huh. shrug it's a hard call to make...I know.
smile good luck to ya.
quite smoking!




wow! nicely said and I totally agree!!! Moderation is the mutha fucking key!

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Mach said:

how old are your children ?





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my son is 10 my daughter is 7.
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Shorty said:

nakedpianoplayer said:



i hear what youre saying. and as i have said here, i am guilty of smoking cigarettes..... and i KNOW the reason this happened to me is because my entire family smokes, so growing up, it was 'alright'.

my grandfather smoked, as did my aunt, my father, my mother, my sister, my brother and myself sigh and as horrible as that is, it kinda supports my orginal statement.... if you smoke pot in front of your kids, they will grow up thinking its ok shrug


me personally...I think I'd rather have my kid think smoking pot was ok and smoking cigarettes was not. (almost 3 years non-smoking for me..smoked from the age of 12 to 29) Although as resonable adults..I'm sure our kids will grow up to realize...anything in moderation is OK but anything to excess is not, be it food, alcohol, drugs, whateva..right?. too bad smokin' butts couldn't be done in moderation...huh. shrug it's a hard call to make...I know.
smile good luck to ya.
quite smoking!

congrats on quiting hug was it horrible ?? eek

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Reply #48 posted 05/16/05 8:58am

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ok true story...

Pictcha it...summer 1973 lil Finess has a friend named "sunny" well his real name was Sunshine... anyhow... im over thier place "see we lived in an apt at the time" anyhow..she tells sunny "get momma's stuff wouldja"?... now in thinkin Madre de dios what stuff is she talkin about. lil sunny whips out a roll of Zig zagz and some grass.

Now sunny bein a kid maybe a year younger than me. takes it... rolls a fuckin perfect doob. i swear it wasnt pregnant or creased fuckin thing was a work of art.and they start to smoke. now i wasnt freaked or anything hence my aunts n shit were hippies. but this was a different time. now if this woman is smokin' for recreational purposes in her own home Fine.

and look i turned out fi...ok wrong example smile
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Shorty said:

nakedpianoplayer said:



i hear what youre saying. and as i have said here, i am guilty of smoking cigarettes..... and i KNOW the reason this happened to me is because my entire family smokes, so growing up, it was 'alright'.

my grandfather smoked, as did my aunt, my father, my mother, my sister, my brother and myself sigh and as horrible as that is, it kinda supports my orginal statement.... if you smoke pot in front of your kids, they will grow up thinking its ok shrug


me personally...I think I'd rather have my kid think smoking pot was ok and smoking cigarettes was not. (almost 3 years non-smoking for me..smoked from the age of 12 to 29) Although as resonable adults..I'm sure our kids will grow up to realize...anything in moderation is OK but anything to excess is not, be it food, alcohol, drugs, whateva..right?. too bad smokin' butts couldn't be done in moderation...huh. shrug it's a hard call to make...I know.
smile good luck to ya.
quite smoking!


I get what you're saying, but you need food to survive. Even if you moderately use alcohol or drugs it's bad for you. You don't need it either. So that's the difference.

I also like to say that smoking pot is not quite as innocent as people once thought it was. I read an article not too long ago and it mentioned that new scientific research has show that smoking pot narrows the blood vessels in your brain. It's also easy to see what kind of negative effects weed has on people if you come over here and look at the people hanging around in these "coffee shops". Moderation only limits the damage it does, it doesn't mean it's harmless.
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Shorty said:



me personally...I think I'd rather have my kid think smoking pot was ok and smoking cigarettes was not. (almost 3 years non-smoking for me..smoked from the age of 12 to 29) Although as resonable adults..I'm sure our kids will grow up to realize...anything in moderation is OK but anything to excess is not, be it food, alcohol, drugs, whateva..right?. too bad smokin' butts couldn't be done in moderation...huh. shrug it's a hard call to make...I know.
smile good luck to ya.
quit smoking!

congrats on quiting hug was it horrible ?? eek

and thank you... rose



well..I'm not gonna lie to ya...quitting smoking is probably the hardest thing I've ever had to do...which is why I don't ever want to have to quit again..BUT it CAN be done..it IS possible...you ARE stronger than that damn cigarette! fortunately and unfortunatly for me...there was a life changing event that happened to my husband and I that basically scared us into quitting. Don't wait for that "scare" it may be too late. Your son is 10....I picked up my first cigarette at 11. I was one of those kids who used to say I'd never smoke, and used to run around putting my mom and dad's out in glasses of water...
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Shorty said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


congrats on quiting hug was it horrible ?? eek

and thank you... rose



well..I'm not gonna lie to ya...quitting smoking is probably the hardest thing I've ever had to do...which is why I don't ever want to have to quit again..BUT it CAN be done..it IS possible...you ARE stronger than that damn cigarette! fortunately and unfortunatly for me...there was a life changing event that happened to my husband and I that basically scared us into quitting. Don't wait for that "scare" it may be too late. Your son is 10....I picked up my first cigarette at 11. I was one of those kids who used to say I'd never smoke, and used to run around putting my mom and dad's out in glasses of water...
good luck to you! rose hug

hug im so glad you were able to quit hug

and im never looking forward to that 'scare' and i dont want my kids to smoke when they are older either. being tied up in this addiction is a nasty, nasty habit ....

thanks again hug and congrats woot!
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Shorty said:



me personally...I think I'd rather have my kid think smoking pot was ok and smoking cigarettes was not. (almost 3 years non-smoking for me..smoked from the age of 12 to 29) Although as resonable adults..I'm sure our kids will grow up to realize...anything in moderation is OK but anything to excess is not, be it food, alcohol, drugs, whateva..right?. too bad smokin' butts couldn't be done in moderation...huh. shrug it's a hard call to make...I know.
smile good luck to ya.
quite smoking!


I get what you're saying, but you need food to survive. Even if you moderately use alcohol or drugs it's bad for you. You don't need it either. So that's the difference.

I also like to say that smoking pot is not quite as innocent as people once thought it was. I read an article not too long ago and it mentioned that new scientific research has show that smoking pot narrows the blood vessels in your brain. It's also easy to see what kind of negative effects weed has on people if you come over here and look at the people hanging around in these "coffee shops". Moderation only limits the damage it does, it doesn't mean it's harmless.

i hear ya there, back in the day when i was smoking they said all kinds of silly stuff... its not as bad as cigarettes, it doesnt leave lasting effects, it doesnt effect you the same way as drinking so its ok to drive after you smoke disbelief

its not good for ya !
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JoeyMFinCoco said:



I get what you're saying, but you need food to survive. Even if you moderately use alcohol or drugs it's bad for you. You don't need it either. So that's the difference.

I also like to say that smoking pot is not quite as innocent as people once thought it was. I read an article not too long ago and it mentioned that new scientific research has show that smoking pot narrows the blood vessels in your brain. It's also easy to see what kind of negative effects weed has on people if you come over here and look at the people hanging around in these "coffee shops". Moderation only limits the damage it does, it doesn't mean it's harmless.

i hear ya there, back in the day when i was smoking they said all kinds of silly stuff... its not as bad as cigarettes, it doesnt leave lasting effects, it doesnt effect you the same way as drinking so its ok to drive after you smoke disbelief

its not good for ya !


http://www.dpna.org/drugn...2-08-5.htm
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JoeyMFinCoco said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


i hear ya there, back in the day when i was smoking they said all kinds of silly stuff... its not as bad as cigarettes, it doesnt leave lasting effects, it doesnt effect you the same way as drinking so its ok to drive after you smoke disbelief

its not good for ya !


http://www.dpna.org/drugn...2-08-5.htm

did that article say that smoking 70 joints a week is MODERATE use ????

and how the HELL do you smoke 350 joints in a week ????


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JoeyMFinCoco said:


did that article say that smoking 70 joints a week is MODERATE use ????

and how the HELL do you smoke 350 joints in a week ????


eek


Up to 70. 70 is only still considered moderate because some smoked up to 350 a week.
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JoeyMFinCoco said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


did that article say that smoking 70 joints a week is MODERATE use ????

and how the HELL do you smoke 350 joints in a week ????


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Up to 70. 70 is only still considered moderate because some smoked up to 350 a week.



Do these ppl sleep!! or jsut get high all night and day!!

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Reply #57 posted 05/16/05 9:40am

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ella731 said:

JoeyMFinCoco said:



Up to 70. 70 is only still considered moderate because some smoked up to 350 a week.



Do these ppl sleep!! or jsut get high all night and day!!

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girl, thats what im saying !!!!

there are only 24 hours in a day eek
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Reply #58 posted 05/16/05 9:42am

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ella731 said:

JoeyMFinCoco said:



Up to 70. 70 is only still considered moderate because some smoked up to 350 a week.



Do these ppl sleep!! or jsut get high all night and day!!

big grin


I dunno, but as a teen I knew some guys who were smoking that shit like regular ciggies. They even got high before they played a game and sometimes even took a few hits at half time. Still "only" about 8-10 a day though. Now I realize they were only moderate users. falloff
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Reply #59 posted 05/16/05 9:44am

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Smoking pot makes me hungry, and beer makes me poop. My drug of chioce is vodka and I likes to pop pills! Anybody got some pills? eek
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