REDFEATHERS said:

he's fucked up abt this subject if you ask me

ok i'll stop before they move this thread to the P&R

breakfast huh? nope just

AndGodCreatedMe said:

Somethings you cannot discuss with people..



Breakfast? Coffee.

Then I maybe will have a sammiche about 10.30am..

(replying to AGCM)
[Edited 5/15/05 11:06am]

Dewrede said:

So if I miscarried, I didnt lose a BABY, just a mass of cells, so I shouldnt be upset or anything, cos its *just* an embryo?????



Thats just not right.. I think you should really think about what you say before you post statements like that.

REDFEATHERS said:

absolutely in my opinion.

TheFrog said:

yes, and I am guessing cos you are a man, you havent been pregnant and carried a child inside you either?

Finally someone who agrees
(replying to The Frog)
[Edited 5/15/05 11:10am]

Dewrede said:

Een baby wordt ook in Nederland na 5 maanden geaborteerd. Niet dat ik daar fundamenteel iets op tegen heb maar het gebeurt.
Vanaf het moment van bevruchting is er in mijn optiek ook sprake van een ziel en dus een menselijk wezen.
Ja we verschillen hier van mening

sorry every one, i'm busy in a move. having a beer and too lazy to translate this conversation

AndGodCreatedMe said:

I orgnoted you, but the orgnotes seem fucked up, as some Orgers here too

Good Luck with your move honey..

As for breakfast -- coffee. When I'm not working, I usually have a bowl of cereal or a sandwich. And on weekends I usually eat eggs, bacon, the whole shebang.

Dewrede said:

ja sorry hoor maar ik heb hierover blijkbaar een ander mening over

OK , nevermind


I really didn't mean to jack this thread

I usually have rice soup, a healthy Thai soup with liver, chives and all manner of things you'd probably turn your noses up at, mixed fruit, or just something like Promite on toast.

With a nice pot of green or white tea, of course.

AndGodCreatedMe said:

Maakt niet uit
[Edited 5/15/05 11:13am]

REDFEATHERS said:

i appreciate & respect your view, and i think you should respect mine too. I understand that it's different because i'm a man, but it's a tired argument that's wheeled out that people who can't conceivably be "involved" in the same way as others, somehow can't have a valid opinion. It's used in all manner of scenarios - like the death penalty. Because i haven't had a member of my family killed by a murderer, i can't validly say that I think the death penalty is disgusting and abhorrent. It's not true.

Well i like wheetos and coco pops and crunchy nut and frosties and weetabix and rice crispies and more cornflakes.

Dewrede said:

I'm pro-choice, but i wouldn't say i agreed with you. I don't believe meat is murder, and i also do believe that embryos are for all intents and purposes, human ~ i wouldn't call them, 'babies', though. But i do NOT believe that abortion is "killing babies". That's the distinction.

TheFrog said:

This is getting way off topic. I will stop here, not cos I want to, but this discussion could go on and on and on...

In fact, i've eaten a shit load of meat today, and it was yummy in my tummy.

TheFrog said:

Wait till you have a baby.. I bet your decision will change

An embryo is an embryo, a baby is a baby, hence the different terms to describe them. However, they are of course basically the same thing but at a different stage of development, up to a point. Different people just draw the line at different stages.

I agree with Frog that abortion is not "killing babies". I think it's a delicate subject and deserves a little more tact and understanding than that lovely turn of phrase allows.

TheFrog said:

A shitload?

TheFrog said:

OK

TheFrog said:

I'm eating and ham and cheese omelet right now!!! Yummy

TheFrog said:

Not OK

REDFEATHERS said:

last word

minneapolisgenius said:

Did he mean a load of shit meat?

Fauxie said:

I don't know. His response is still pending.

Fauxie said:

FFS, I mean not personally...

REDFEATHERS said:

You addressed TheFrog about him not personally having a baby?