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Gay Philosophy

Some r born gay, some achieve gayness, some have gayness thrust upon them...discuss neutral
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Reply #1 posted 05/05/05 8:28am

TheFrog

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Reply #2 posted 05/05/05 8:30am

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TheFrog said:

False. neutral


thanks 4 clearing that 1 up 4 me frogster...been up 72 hours pondering...now at last i can rest neutral
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/05 8:45am

MIGUELGOMEZ

I can't speak for everyone but I was born gay. I've known since I was 5.


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Reply #4 posted 05/05/05 8:52am

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The ones I know are certainly born that way, what a silly discussion neutral

You can think of better threads handsome nod
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Reply #5 posted 05/05/05 9:18am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I can't speak for everyone but I was born gay. I've known since I was 5.
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hmmm Maybe you were straight from birth to 5.
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Reply #6 posted 05/05/05 9:22am

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I can't speak for everyone but I was born gay. I've known since I was 5.
M

hmmm Maybe you were straight from birth to 5.



I can't disagree with you on that but I really didn't relate to people then it was just my toys. Around 5 I started thinking hmmmm, that little boy on the Little Rascals (Mickey) is cute.

I had two girlfriends in high school and that was okay. I felt something was missing(literally), blah blah blah. I kissed a boy and WOW!!!!!


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Reply #7 posted 05/05/05 1:46pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

PANDURITO said:


hmmm Maybe you were straight from birth to 5.



I can't disagree with you on that but I really didn't relate to people then it was just my toys. Around 5 I started thinking hmmmm, that little boy on the Little Rascals (Mickey) is cute.

I had two girlfriends in high school and that was okay. I felt something was missing(literally), blah blah blah. I kissed a boy and WOW!!!!!


m
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co-sign. Gay people are born gay. Just you're born either boy or girl, right or left handed. I mean come on now, you see how we're treated? Who would deliberately choose to be gay? But nobody thinks about that.
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Reply #8 posted 05/05/05 2:55pm

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Well it depends, if u say me, it was thrown on me. Although i am bi and do both the same way, a fellow soldier in the army back when i was 19 and he 20 who was no doubt gay but straight acting did things to me to replace my girlfriend who left by waxing and letting me penetrate him almost every night. It felt so good that i still do it now with an ex of mines supposely. When i was in high school i was all girls until that time 8 yrs ago. So it could be anyways. Look at people who go to jail a thug and come out a queen, are u saying they born that way or thrown on that way.
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Reply #9 posted 05/05/05 2:58pm

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Well it depends, if u say me, it was thrown on me. Although i am bi and do both the same way, a fellow soldier in the army back when i was 19 and he 20 who was no doubt gay but straight acting did things to me to replace my girlfriend who left by waxing and letting me penetrate him almost every night. It felt so good that i still do it now with an ex of mines supposely. When i was in high school i was all girls until that time 8 yrs ago. So it could be anyways. Look at people who go to jail a thug and come out a queen, are u saying they born that way or thrown on that way.




There is a thing called SITUATIONAL HOMOSEXUALITY. A lot of guys that have sex in jail identify as straight and carry on their heterosexual life when they're out.


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Reply #10 posted 05/05/05 2:59pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

saintsation said:

Well it depends, if u say me, it was thrown on me. Although i am bi and do both the same way, a fellow soldier in the army back when i was 19 and he 20 who was no doubt gay but straight acting did things to me to replace my girlfriend who left by waxing and letting me penetrate him almost every night. It felt so good that i still do it now with an ex of mines supposely. When i was in high school i was all girls until that time 8 yrs ago. So it could be anyways. Look at people who go to jail a thug and come out a queen, are u saying they born that way or thrown on that way.




There is a thing called SITUATIONAL HOMOSEXUALITY. A lot of guys that have sex in jail identify as straight and carry on their heterosexual life when they're out.


M



Liking cock and other men physically does NOT make someone gay.

Having ever heard or listenned to a Morrissey album, however, does. That being said, there are plenty of people who are gay and don't even know it.


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Reply #11 posted 05/05/05 3:04pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:





There is a thing called SITUATIONAL HOMOSEXUALITY. A lot of guys that have sex in jail identify as straight and carry on their heterosexual life when they're out.


M



Liking cock and other me physically does NOT make someone gay.

Having ever heard or listenned to a Morrissey album, however, does. That being said, there are plenty of people who are gay and don't even know it.




falloff Was that licking or liking cock?

".....some girls are bigger than others, some girls are bigger than other girl's mothers."


You can be gay without having sex. A lot of people ask how I knew I was gay when I hadn't had sex with anyone. It's not about that. It's about how you feel towards your same gender. The sex is a product of it.

M.
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Reply #12 posted 05/05/05 3:10pm

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saintsation said:

Well it depends, if u say me, it was thrown on me. Although i am bi and do both the same way, a fellow soldier in the army back when i was 19 and he 20 who was no doubt gay but straight acting did things to me to replace my girlfriend who left by waxing and letting me penetrate him almost every night. It felt so good that i still do it now with an ex of mines supposely. When i was in high school i was all girls until that time 8 yrs ago. So it could be anyways. Look at people who go to jail a thug and come out a queen, are u saying they born that way or thrown on that way.



Guess what you have??



A sever case of the A.J.'s...and she's lookin mighty butch in that pic...
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Reply #13 posted 05/05/05 3:10pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

AsianBomb777 said:




Liking cock and other me physically does NOT make someone gay.

Having ever heard or listenned to a Morrissey album, however, does. That being said, there are plenty of people who are gay and don't even know it.




falloff Was that licking or liking cock?

".....some girls are bigger than others, some girls are bigger than other girl's mothers."


You can be gay without having sex. A lot of people ask how I knew I was gay when I hadn't had sex with anyone. It's not about that. It's about how you feel towards your same gender. The sex is a product of it.

M.


Sexuality is a funny thing

I got my old best mate gay I swear. He was straight but then I got him into gay acts like marky mark, gerardo and c and c music factory. the uk charts missed out on gerardo completely. It seems they were geared at either lil' girls or gay guys, but I love al 3 and iam straight.



Proberly my mate woulda turned bent anyway, but I seemed to of sped it up when he mentioned how the gerardo cover was hot!
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I am not gay, or at least I don't think so. There have been quite a few situations where I felt like a real lesbian and felt dirty afterwards because I believe in GOD and the bible, well, parts of it anyway, and afterlife. So if in that situation, I try to focus on a really hot guy to get that picture outta my head. See with me, if you're cute, thoughts just go wild in my head of what we could do together. It doesn't matter what sex you are, but it ALWAYS happens to me sigh . And I hate it when a female is in the picture. Although I have nothing against gays, (OBVIOUSLY), some are really cool people to hang/talk with (in other words Miguel and Glam hug ). but I don't think I would be able to handle the fact that I was a lesbian, IF I was a lesbian.




But for right now, I am in a VERY confused stage. I have no idea. I KNOW I love men, but then there's always that thought in the back of my head "She is GORGEOUS though".....so I don't know. I guess with some people, you are born straight, but then that doesn't work out, or you figure that something is missing, and then you try the same sex. You turn out to like them and then you're "OFFICIALLY" gay, no more being straight in your life.


With me, I've never been with a woman. But then I wonder what it would be like sometimes. So I guess in some ways, it's thrown on you. Some like the same sex either because they feel that they can relate to what you're are going through because they are the same sex and therefore KNOW what is happening to you for themselves. For example some women might want someone with the same functions as her, than a man who has NO CLUE what she's going through and vice versa.


So I guess it can go either way. It's either thrown on you, or you have been all your life and proud to say it. Me.....I have to decide that for myself. sigh
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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I can't speak for everyone but I was born gay. I've known since I was 5.


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I've known since I was 4. Not too many choices being made at that age.
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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

AsianBomb777 said:




Liking cock and other me physically does NOT make someone gay.

Having ever heard or listenned to a Morrissey album, however, does. That being said, there are plenty of people who are gay and don't even know it.




falloff Was that licking or liking cock?

".....some girls are bigger than others, some girls are bigger than other girl's mothers."


You can be gay without having sex. A lot of people ask how I knew I was gay when I hadn't had sex with anyone. It's not about that. It's about how you feel towards your same gender. The sex is a product of it.

M.


How do straight people know they are straight before having sex? They just know. neutral
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Reply #17 posted 05/05/05 3:58pm

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Tish4 said:

I am not gay, or at least I don't think so. There have been quite a few situations where I felt like a real lesbian and felt dirty afterwards because I believe in GOD and the bible, well, parts of it anyway, and afterlife. So if in that situation, I try to focus on a really hot guy to get that picture outta my head. See with me, if you're cute, thoughts just go wild in my head of what we could do together. It doesn't matter what sex you are, but it ALWAYS happens to me sigh . And I hate it when a female is in the picture. Although I have nothing against gays, (OBVIOUSLY), some are really cool people to hang/talk with (in other words Miguel and Glam hug ). but I don't think I would be able to handle the fact that I was a lesbian, IF I was a lesbian.




But for right now, I am in a VERY confused stage. I have no idea. I KNOW I love men, but then there's always that thought in the back of my head "She is GORGEOUS though".....so I don't know. I guess with some people, you are born straight, but then that doesn't work out, or you figure that something is missing, and then you try the same sex. You turn out to like them and then you're "OFFICIALLY" gay, no more being straight in your life.


With me, I've never been with a woman. But then I wonder what it would be like sometimes. So I guess in some ways, it's thrown on you. Some like the same sex either because they feel that they can relate to what you're are going through because they are the same sex and therefore KNOW what is happening to you for themselves. For example some women might want someone with the same functions as her, than a man who has NO CLUE what she's going through and vice versa.


So I guess it can go either way. It's either thrown on you, or you have been all your life and proud to say it. Me.....I have to decide that for myself. sigh



aawwwww!!!! hug We have a closet-case!!..and you can't have "gayness" thrown on you, not unless it's already in you and someone "brings it out" you can't make someone gay.
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Reply #18 posted 05/05/05 5:00pm

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GlitterStream said:

Tish4 said:

I am not gay, or at least I don't think so. There have been quite a few situations where I felt like a real lesbian and felt dirty afterwards because I believe in GOD and the bible, well, parts of it anyway, and afterlife. So if in that situation, I try to focus on a really hot guy to get that picture outta my head. See with me, if you're cute, thoughts just go wild in my head of what we could do together. It doesn't matter what sex you are, but it ALWAYS happens to me sigh . And I hate it when a female is in the picture. Although I have nothing against gays, (OBVIOUSLY), some are really cool people to hang/talk with (in other words Miguel and Glam hug ). but I don't think I would be able to handle the fact that I was a lesbian, IF I was a lesbian.




But for right now, I am in a VERY confused stage. I have no idea. I KNOW I love men, but then there's always that thought in the back of my head "She is GORGEOUS though".....so I don't know. I guess with some people, you are born straight, but then that doesn't work out, or you figure that something is missing, and then you try the same sex. You turn out to like them and then you're "OFFICIALLY" gay, no more being straight in your life.


With me, I've never been with a woman. But then I wonder what it would be like sometimes. So I guess in some ways, it's thrown on you. Some like the same sex either because they feel that they can relate to what you're are going through because they are the same sex and therefore KNOW what is happening to you for themselves. For example some women might want someone with the same functions as her, than a man who has NO CLUE what she's going through and vice versa.


So I guess it can go either way. It's either thrown on you, or you have been all your life and proud to say it. Me.....I have to decide that for myself. sigh



aawwwww!!!! hug We have a closet-case!!..and you can't have "gayness" thrown on you, not unless it's already in you and someone "brings it out" you can't make someone gay.


i thimk gays will more then gladly admit that women are mote beutiful then men, partucally when naked. Straight guys never say about men "wow, look at his eyes". But women do.

I dont say that about men though. But I know a good looking one though. All men do, they just hate to talk about it.
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thesexofit said:

GlitterStream said:




aawwwww!!!! hug We have a closet-case!!..and you can't have "gayness" thrown on you, not unless it's already in you and someone "brings it out" you can't make someone gay.


i thimk gays will more then gladly admit that women are mote beutiful then men, partucally when naked. Straight guys never say about men "wow, look at his eyes". But women do.

I dont say that about men though. But I know a good looking one though. All men do, they just hate to talk about it.



What. I don't think so. We're comfortable enough with our sexuality to say that a woman is beautiful, without having someone say "but you're supposed to be gay, you can't be attracted to women" when in saying that someone is attractive isn't the same as being attracted to them, in most cases. And on the other side, guys won't say another guy's attractive unless they're secure with their sexuality or unless they don't want their sexuality questioned.
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Reply #20 posted 05/06/05 11:27am

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GlitterStream said:

Tish4 said:

I am not gay, or at least I don't think so. There have been quite a few situations where I felt like a real lesbian and felt dirty afterwards because I believe in GOD and the bible, well, parts of it anyway, and afterlife. So if in that situation, I try to focus on a really hot guy to get that picture outta my head. See with me, if you're cute, thoughts just go wild in my head of what we could do together. It doesn't matter what sex you are, but it ALWAYS happens to me sigh . And I hate it when a female is in the picture. Although I have nothing against gays, (OBVIOUSLY), some are really cool people to hang/talk with (in other words Miguel and Glam hug ). but I don't think I would be able to handle the fact that I was a lesbian, IF I was a lesbian.




But for right now, I am in a VERY confused stage. I have no idea. I KNOW I love men, but then there's always that thought in the back of my head "She is GORGEOUS though".....so I don't know. I guess with some people, you are born straight, but then that doesn't work out, or you figure that something is missing, and then you try the same sex. You turn out to like them and then you're "OFFICIALLY" gay, no more being straight in your life.


With me, I've never been with a woman. But then I wonder what it would be like sometimes. So I guess in some ways, it's thrown on you. Some like the same sex either because they feel that they can relate to what you're are going through because they are the same sex and therefore KNOW what is happening to you for themselves. For example some women might want someone with the same functions as her, than a man who has NO CLUE what she's going through and vice versa.


So I guess it can go either way. It's either thrown on you, or you have been all your life and proud to say it. Me.....I have to decide that for myself. sigh



aawwwww!!!! hug We have a closet-case!!..and you can't have "gayness" thrown on you, not unless it's already in you and someone "brings it out" you can't make someone gay.



I'm not a closet case I just don't know which way to turn from right now.....I want to be involved in what GOD would consider an appropriate relationship, but like I said....I get a lil' too off my goal sometimes.....So, if I was a closet case, I probably wouldn't be out for a LONG time comin'.....if it comes at all...

Thanks though, I understand that what I have posted may seem like I am a closet case, but in my eyes, I am just really conmfused about which I should do....
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Reply #21 posted 05/06/05 11:35am

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Tish4 said:

GlitterStream said:




aawwwww!!!! hug We have a closet-case!!..and you can't have "gayness" thrown on you, not unless it's already in you and someone "brings it out" you can't make someone gay.



I'm not a closet case I just don't know which way to turn from right now.....I want to be involved in what GOD would consider an appropriate relationship, but like I said....I get a lil' too off my goal sometimes.....So, if I was a closet case, I probably wouldn't be out for a LONG time comin'.....if it comes at all...

Thanks though, I understand that what I have posted may seem like I am a closet case, but in my eyes, I am just really conmfused about which I should do....



You'll know in time. Don't rush it. Let it flow. You may just be bisexual. And remember God didn't make junk so be proud even if you feel confused. Whatever relationship you get into just go into it with respect and dignity. I think that's all God wants.

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Tish4 said:

GlitterStream said:




aawwwww!!!! hug We have a closet-case!!..and you can't have "gayness" thrown on you, not unless it's already in you and someone "brings it out" you can't make someone gay.



I'm not a closet case I just don't know which way to turn from right now.....I want to be involved in what GOD would consider an appropriate relationship, but like I said....I get a lil' too off my goal sometimes.....So, if I was a closet case, I probably wouldn't be out for a LONG time comin'.....if it comes at all...

Thanks though, I understand that what I have posted may seem like I am a closet case, but in my eyes, I am just really conmfused about which I should do....

You should do what is right for you. Nobody else lives their lives to make you happy and you shouldn't live your life to please other people. Everyone in the straight world does exactly what they want and need for their lives. I'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned about living Godly lives but God didn't make us for the sole purpose of punishing us and denying us a happy place in this life. Do your own searching and you will find your answers.
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Reply #23 posted 05/06/05 12:05pm

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LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Some r born gay, some achieve gayness, some have gayness thrust upon them...discuss neutral



You were most definitely born gay! nod
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Reply #24 posted 05/06/05 12:08pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

Liking cock and other men physically does NOT make someone gay.



Flirting with Gooey, on the other hand, DOES.
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Reply #25 posted 05/06/05 12:08pm

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REDFEATHERS said:

LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Some r born gay, some achieve gayness, some have gayness thrust upon them...discuss neutral



You were most definitely born gay! nod



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Reply #26 posted 05/06/05 12:12pm

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LadyB0yCabDriver said:

Some r born gay, some achieve gayness, some have gayness thrust upon them...discuss neutral



You were most definitely born gay! nod


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Reply #27 posted 05/06/05 12:33pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

Liking cock and other men physically does NOT make someone gay.

Having ever heard or listenned to a Morrissey album, however, does.


I've never even heard Morissey! stab

So if what you're saying is true, then how can I possibly be gay?! confuse
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Reply #28 posted 05/06/05 1:47pm

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scififilmnerd said:

AsianBomb777 said:

Liking cock and other men physically does NOT make someone gay.

Having ever heard or listenned to a Morrissey album, however, does.


I've never even heard Morissey! stab

So if what you're saying is true, then how can I possibly be gay?! confuse

And I hate Morissey and I am gay! lol
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Reply #29 posted 05/06/05 2:16pm

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Tish4 said:

I am not gay, or at least I don't think so. There have been quite a few situations where I felt like a real lesbian and felt dirty afterwards because I believe in GOD and the bible, well, parts of it anyway, and afterlife. So if in that situation, I try to focus on a really hot guy to get that picture outta my head. See with me, if you're cute, thoughts just go wild in my head of what we could do together. It doesn't matter what sex you are, but it ALWAYS happens to me sigh . And I hate it when a female is in the picture. Although I have nothing against gays, (OBVIOUSLY), some are really cool people to hang/talk with (in other words Miguel and Glam hug ). but I don't think I would be able to handle the fact that I was a lesbian, IF I was a lesbian.




But for right now, I am in a VERY confused stage. I have no idea. I KNOW I love men, but then there's always that thought in the back of my head "She is GORGEOUS though".....so I don't know. I guess with some people, you are born straight, but then that doesn't work out, or you figure that something is missing, and then you try the same sex. You turn out to like them and then you're "OFFICIALLY" gay, no more being straight in your life.


With me, I've never been with a woman. But then I wonder what it would be like sometimes. So I guess in some ways, it's thrown on you. Some like the same sex either because they feel that they can relate to what you're are going through because they are the same sex and therefore KNOW what is happening to you for themselves. For example some women might want someone with the same functions as her, than a man who has NO CLUE what she's going through and vice versa.


So I guess it can go either way. It's either thrown on you, or you have been all your life and proud to say it. Me.....I have to decide that for myself. sigh





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