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Thread started 05/05/05 11:16pm

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SHE HAS A NAME !!! RIP Erica Michelle Marie Green

well, in kansas city, this case has been HUGE ... how many of you have heard about it ???




Unidentified
Precious Doe
KANSAS CITY MISSOURI UNIDENTIFIED

DOB : 1994-1996

Age now : 5-7 years

Height : 4' 0" - 122 cm

Weight :41 lbs - 19 kg

Eyes :Brown

Hair : Black

Date Missing :apr-28-2001

City of Report :KANSAS CITY

State of Report :MO

Country of Report :USA

Age :4 years


The remains of a young Black female were found on Saturday, April 28, 2001 in a wooded area of Kansas City, MO near 59th and Kensington. It was determined that she had been murdered and she may have been deceased anywhere from one to five days prior to her discovery. She has a crescent moon shaped birthmark on her left shoulder. It couldn't be determined if a chip in her left front tooth is recent or had been present for a longer term. The estimated year of birth is between 1994 and 1996. This photograph is a computer-aided facial reconstruction created at the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. The "Missing" field is the date when she was found, the "Missing From" field is the location she was found and the "DOB," "Age Now," "Height" and "Weight" fields are approximations.


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well, she now has a name, and the MOTHER is in jail - here is her real photo...





http://news.yahoo.com/new...ous_doe_20


By MATT SEDENSKY, Associated Press Writer
Thu May 5, 5:35 PM ET



KANSAS CITY, Mo. - For four years, she was known only as Precious Doe, a little girl whose headless body was found along a road. On Thursday, police identified the girl, arrested her mother on murder charges and pronounced the sad mystery solved.



The girl with big brown eyes and neat cornrows in her hair was identified as Erica Michelle Marie Green, just shy of 4 when she was found.

Her mother, Michelle M. Johnson, 30, was charged with murder and endangering the welfare of a child. Police said she told them her husband, Erica's stepfather, killed the girl with a kick to the head and used hedge clippers to sever her head.

Johnson and her husband, who was not identified, were being held in Oklahoma, where they live. No immediate charges were brought against the husband.

"We have closure," Police Chief James Corwin said. "The little girl that we've known for four years as Precious Doe has a name."

Police said a tip enabled them to identify Erica, but they would not elaborate. And they gave no motive for the little girl's slaying.

The girl's body was found near an intersection on April 28, 2001. Days later, her head was found nearby, wrapped in a trash bag.

In the months after she became known as Precious Doe, hundreds attended candlelight vigils, volunteered to answer witness hot lines and passed out fliers with an artist's rendering of the girl. The FBI took blood samples from family members of missing black girls, and the case was featured on television's "America's Most Wanted."

A makeshift memorial of poems, teddy bears and flowers was eventually replaced by a permanent memorial in a park near where her body was found. On Thursday morning, among flowers and balloons, a handwritten sign announced the news: "My Name Is Erica Michelle Maria Green."

Authorities said the little girl was killed in Kansas City, where the family had been staying with a friend. According to court papers, Johnson said her husband kicked Erica in the head, and they left her on the floor for two days. They did not seek medical help, she said, because both had warrants out for their arrest.

The child died, and the couple carried the body to a church parking lot, then through the woods, where the stepfather cut the girl's head with hedge clippers, police said.

The break in the case apparently came after community activist Alonzo Washington, who has long championed efforts to find out who the little girl was, placed another advertisement seeking leads in a local paper.

"There's something about it that just bothers me that a child could be thrown away and people forget about it," said Washington, who has worked to raise awareness of missing black children.

Washington said a grandfather of one of the individuals involved in the case came forward, talking with him and detectives last weekend. He said the source, who had spoken to police before on the case, sent photographs of the child as well as hair samples from the child and the mother.

Police and prosecutors refused to confirm specifics or identify the source. Washington declined to be more specific.

A photo displayed by police during a news conference, showing the girl with a slight smile and adornments in her braided hair, may have been a picture of the wrong child. Oklahoma police saw the picture and said it appeared to be one of the girl's cousins.

Johnson was being held on $500,000 bail in her hometown of Muskogee, Okla., and will be brought to Kansas City as soon as possible, prosecutor Michael Sanders said.

Oklahoma records show Michelle Johnson has convictions for theft and forgery. The stepfather has convictions for several offenses, including assault with a dangerous weapon and possessing a sawed-off shotgun.

In Kansas City, police closed off the street in front of the run-down home where authorities said Johnson and her husband had been staying at the time of the killing.

People who long had been transfixed by the case welcomed news of the arrests.

Billy Stegall, a retired post office worker and Army sergeant, discovered Erica's head in 2001 and has gone back to the site regularly to pray.

"This is a day I have been looking for," he said. "I just asked the Lord to say who she is so she could be at peace, because she wasn't at peace and I wasn't at peace."



everyone, everywhere you go has something to say about this case disbelief there are few words that come to mind to discribe how a mother could do this to their own child... yet, for the most part, folks are very happy that SOMEONE is finally paying for this poor babies death sad
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Reply #1 posted 05/05/05 11:18pm

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Reply #2 posted 05/05/05 11:19pm

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Shit... that's gruesome. At least lifetime in jail for that woman...at the very least. sad Rest in peace now little girl. rose
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Reply #3 posted 05/05/05 11:22pm

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its just HORRIBLE bawl

but, what i dont understand is why didnt they arrest the man as well ???

or, do you think that is yet to come ?



such a beautiful baby .... such a sad, sad, tragic death sad



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Reply #4 posted 05/05/05 11:25pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

its just HORRIBLE bawl

but, what i dont understand is why didnt they arrest the man as well ???

or, do you think that is yet to come ?



such a beautiful baby .... such a sad, sad, tragic death sad



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It's easier to lean on the woman to get her to tell the story, all the guilt involved. She'll prolly feel like it's a relief to finally be able to tell. At least if she's any kind of human being.
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do any of you remember hearing of this in the news in your area ??? i thought for sure someone would have put this up by now ?? they told us here that they were asking all over the country, but, then again, maybe thats not true.



and, HOW THE HELL can you have a child, then not have it anymore ??? they say they were staying with 'friends' ??? well, didnt the 'friends' wonder when the baby went missing ???? especially after everyone was looking all over for the baby ??? why didnt they call into police then ???


what is WRONG with people these days ????? disbelief
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Teacher said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

its just HORRIBLE bawl

but, what i dont understand is why didnt they arrest the man as well ???

or, do you think that is yet to come ?



such a beautiful baby .... such a sad, sad, tragic death sad



rose


It's easier to lean on the woman to get her to tell the story, all the guilt involved. She'll prolly feel like it's a relief to finally be able to tell. At least if she's any kind of human being.

i agree there, i mean, SURELY there has to be some sort of 'mothering instinct' left in her somewhere...

relief or not, shes not much of a human being in my eyes if she can sit and watch her child die on the floor and not seek medical help, then do what they did to get rid of her like that.. THEN not say anything for 4 years ???

thats not a mother, or a human being, thats a monster !!!!!

here are the guidelines for kansas death penalty, looks like she stands a great chance for that - if we still have that here..


http://www.ksu.edu/amnest...thpen.html


this whole thing makes me sick !!!!!
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This photo provided by the Muskogee County Sheriff's Department shows Michelle Johnson of Muskogee, Okla. Johnson was charged Thursday, May 5, 2005, with second-degree felony murder and endangerment of a child's welfare in the death of her daughter, 3-year-old Erica Michelle Maria Green. Green's headless body was found April 28, 2001, in Kansas City. She became known as Precious Doe as police sought to identify her, which they were finally able to do with a tip after four years. (AP Photo/Muskogee County Sheriff's Department)





This undated photo provided by the Muskogee County Sheriff's Department shows Harrell Johnson of Muskogee, Okla. Johnson was charged Thursday, May 5, 2005, with murder and endangering the welfare of a child in the death of 3-year-old Erica Michelle Maria Green whose headless body was found in Kansas City April 28, 2001. Investigators named her Precious Doe as they sought the identification. (AP Photo/ Muskogee County Sheriff's Department)








those pictures look like some of the coldest people ive ever seen. that man has a HORRIBLE look in his eyes !!!!!
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Reply #8 posted 05/06/05 12:04am

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damn, thass gruesome. god has her soul now y;all is all good. biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
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cry ooohhhh My baby is 3, Stories like this makes me wanna just hug her and hold her to me all day, cry Sad world when kids aren't even safe with their own parents. cry cry cry I hadn't heard the story, I've stop watching the news due to all the bad things going on. With all the amber alerts and then they're found dead. Kids bring guns to school and shoot up other kids. Remember the couple that threw the newborn out of the car onto the side of the road and drove off. disbelief I think that happened twice. disbelief It's just all sooo sad. cry
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disbelief black people.
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Reply #11 posted 05/06/05 5:03am

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disbelief black people.


You are such a dirty baker. lol
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GlitterStream said:

disbelief black people.


You are such a dirty baker. lol


Don't get me started on "us". I just got home from work.
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cry ooohhhh My baby is 3, Stories like this makes me wanna just hug her and hold her to me all day, cry Sad world when kids aren't even safe with their own parents. cry cry cry I hadn't heard the story, I've stop watching the news due to all the bad things going on. With all the amber alerts and then they're found dead. Kids bring guns to school and shoot up other kids. Remember the couple that threw the newborn out of the car onto the side of the road and drove off. disbelief I think that happened twice. disbelief It's just all sooo sad. cry

its incredibly hard to deal with things like this when you look at it as a person, but, when you have little ones, its almost like someone putting a new fear inside you everytime you hear of all the horrible things that happen to these poor babies ....

to know that there are monsters out there walking around us everyday, it just, well, it makes me want to bring my babies in the house - lock the door - and hold them tight sad

remember that one woman that put her babies in the car, strapped them in, and drove the car off the bridge ?? susan something ... wasnt it ??? said some black guy took her car disbelief i heard that in prison, they called out all night long to her, calling mommy over and over again - i guess the inmates take care of them in ways that you and i cannot.

i hope they make her cry everyday for the rest of her cold, hard, horrible, nasty, discusting life - nasty bitch !!!!
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Reply #14 posted 05/06/05 12:45pm

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This is very sad. I'm so glad they found her killers. I heard that part of the reason they didn't seek medical attention for Precious is because they both had arrest warrents out on them, so they just cut her head off and dumped her sad . This doesn't suprise me in the least. I think both of them should be sterilized and tossed in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.
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This is very sad. I'm so glad they found her killers. I heard that part of the reason they didn't seek medical attention for Precious is because they both had arrest warrents out on them, so they just cut her head off and dumped her sad . This doesn't suprise me in the least. I think both of them should be sterilized and tossed in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.

hug yes, all this because of some warrants, now they both will be in prison for the rest of their lives, or go on death row....

it was horrible to hear of the baby being found like she was... but now, somehow, since we see her actual face, and know how she died, and why.. and SEE the people who did this to her..... it almost makes this harder to deal with than when it first happened sad

how could they just let her lay there and die like that ?????

thank god the other children will have an opportunity to have a better life, surely those 'parents' werent good to any of them, i mean, how could they be ??? my prayers for them are that they get to stay together, love each other, and try to move past this horrible event in any way they can pray
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Reply #16 posted 05/06/05 4:46pm

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Shit... that's gruesome. At least lifetime in jail for that woman...at the very least. sad Rest in peace now little girl. rose

Beheadings for these two would be poetic justice. mad
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Reply #17 posted 05/06/05 4:57pm

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they'll stand before thier creator when its thier time and righteous judgement will be passed.. dig??
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the picture put up before is actually a cousin, NPP. They had made a mistake on the picture. Here is the latest one.

The little girl's father was in prison also, and the mother told him that Erica was staying with relatives in Chicago..... sad
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nakedpianoplayer said:

remember that one woman that put her babies in the car, strapped them in, and drove the car off the bridge ?? susan something ... wasnt it ??? said some black guy took her car disbelief i heard that in prison, they called out all night long to her, calling mommy over and over again - i guess the inmates take care of them in ways that you and i cannot.

i hope they make her cry everyday for the rest of her cold, hard, horrible, nasty, discusting life - nasty bitch !!!!



I remember that!! disbelief I've had a talk with my daughter about strangers and that not all of them are nice, and to never talk to them. To never leave my side if we go anywhere (hold hands). She got scared alittle, but calmed when I told her everthing will be ok, we're just being safe. She hasn't asked to go out by herself anymore, she'll say "wanna go outside with me and play". I'm hoping she isn't scared of everything now, but she seems ok. If something were to ever happen it'd kill me. When she's older, I'll be so paranoid!! eyepop
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Reply #20 posted 05/06/05 5:29pm

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my heart sinks so low

so low


what goes on on this planet

i will never

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I don't even want to think about what all goes on we never hear about. disbelief I'd want a big house where I could take care of all the abused kids, and show them love. bheart into heart
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GlitterStream said:

disbelief black people.

WTF!? whofarted
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CoJones said:

GlitterStream said:

disbelief black people.

WTF!? whofarted


I wouldn't know where to start.
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Reply #25 posted 05/06/05 8:00pm

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disbelief black people.




You sound like me! This Cinco De Mayo some of my Mexican brothers and sisters acted like idiots.

M.
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Reply #26 posted 05/06/05 8:02pm

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I had been following this case. I saw something regarding the case and how they got someone to do a bust of her head from her skull. People used to meet every Sunday at the park where she was found so that nobody would forget.

That little girl went straight to heaven as soon as she was killed. In all honesty I can't type anymore....



M.
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Reply #28 posted 05/06/05 8:08pm

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how could a mother just let someone do that to her child? it disgusts me how some women just go along with these stupid ass boyfriends. so selfish.
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how could a mother just let someone do that to her child? it disgusts me how some women just go along with these stupid ass boyfriends. so selfish.

to turn your back on your CHILD ... and give your love to some MAN disbelief

i just dont understand it either girl sigh
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