For example....when you play loud music and of course it's something you enjoy listening too...Do you think that maybe the people around you don't like or want to hear your music? Do you care? And if you don't care then are you a hypocrite when someone plays something you hate and you start complaining? Those who know me know how utterly anti social I am and how I have little tolerance for a great majority of people around me. This is one of the things that makes me not want to be around people....The old "It's ok for me but not for you" Attitude....Granted as individuals we must think of ourselves first, but people who act like they run the world and are not considerate of those around them irk me...

How hard is it to treat people like you wish to be treated? It's not that difficult especially if you dislike being treated badly...YOu obviously know then you don't like that so why do it to someonelse? The fact so many refuse to live in the other person's shoes for a moment before they act, think, or react is absolutely appalling.... They think because of their country, Relligion, or just because your a free human being it's alright for them to do what they please without considerations....

I try to never pass judgement....And what people do is their biz...if your fucked up then I leave you too it....if you got your stuff together I leave you to it...But it does irk me....Im not saying you should spend your life making sure it's ok with everyone before you act...Im saying where has the simple common courtesy gone? Was it even there in the first place?

yes, i believe i am

First!!

Always.

I'm an emotional spunge.

I read body language and react accordingly.

Hi Sinny

Im always conscious of others...I always seem to run into those who aren't
It sux

ThreadCula said:

Now, Girl you KNOW I'm conscious of you!

AsianBoi777 said:

Goodie,I Likey, Likey

oh god. the first part of this hit me right where i live. yes, i am considerate enough to realize that my roommates and neighbors don't want to hear my music, so i walk around with headphones on a lot. i almost never use our stereo, and when i do, it's not loudly. but of course, everyone else likes to blast their stereos and show off how "cool" they are by turning up the bass.

also, i had the bad luck to get a dorm placed by the pool/spa area, which has no closing time. so every single blessed night, people are out there until about 3 am. it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't scream and shout, and generally behave like little fucking brats and not the 18 year olds (and older) that they are. my guess is that these are the same types of little shits that come to lectures just to talk obnoxiously in the back and fuck up my concentration.

let's not get into my roommates and how they have stunned me with how filthy they can make the bathroom a day after it's been cleaned.

living in the dorms has made me a bit insane.

/rant

Sinister said:

Sinister said:

I tend to be - minimally, at inopportune moments - too self-focused. when I can do it, it's very easy for me to retire into my own little world & shut the rest of it out..
so for me it's natural & easy to put on the headphones & BLAST my music as loud as I want, & at that point I'm not concerned with "the outside world". it still happens that I get a reaction because I respond (move to &/or sing) to the music I'm listening to & inevitably someone - typically a woman - will look at me & give a smile that says something like "WHAT the hell are you DOING???"

still, I make a point to be considerate of others - it's what I'm supposed to do. it happens enough where I'm out somewhere & if I think someone's music is too loud.. if I think the person will be considerate then I'll politely say something to them. in a public place like that, if someone asks me to lower the volume, I do it.
people who basically say "fuck you, I'm playin' my music the way I want.."
those people annoy me for a moment, then I get over that & keep going.

in a "public situation", it's not difficult for me to behave in a polite way because, not knowing the vast majority of people around me
(in any given situation)
it's the best thing to do. I don't know them, they don't know me.
at the beginning, I have no reason to disrespect anyone I don't know.
if some time passes & the other person does something that bothers me,
depending on the "big picture" I will either address the situation
IF
I think doing that will be helpful to the present situation & the transgressing person..
or
if I see no benefit in addressing the other person &/or I think the trasngressing person won't be open to correcting the situation, I'll simply keep moving.
for me, "to keep moving" is much more instinctive,
but I generally have no problem addressing someone if I believe it will be worth it.


I understand the "motivation" behind "not judging others".. but in reality,
each of us does this, minimally on a subconcious level. imagine that you hear of someone who.. steals money from a charity. what is your reaction to this information?

MINIMALLY, in your mind you say "this is wrong."
this is a JUDGEMENT.

now, the thing is..
do you want to, do you believe it's important to inform the other person (or the others) of your opinion/judgement??

YES, essentially what each person choses to do is their "own business",
up until the point that those choices affect others.


"common courtesy" has been replaced - steadily - by just the thing with which Sinister started this thread:

the cult of "instant gratification" :

"I want what I want,
I want it RIGHT NOW
&
HOW DARE you tell me I can't have it!
if you tell me that I can't (or maybe shouldn't) have what I want,
then you are clearly oppressing me &/or discriminating against me."


so with this imposition of "instant gratification",
many people WILL keep their music too loud,
many people WILL cut in front of you while you're driving somewhere,
many people WILL "impose themselves" to get exactly what they want - at the "expense" of you &/or others.


ah,
life in America in the "new millenium".

mltijchr said:

You know what...when I am dealing with people and the things they do that irk me I remember this quote....

"Do you get mad when it rains? Or if the wind blows too hard or if it's sunny outside? No? Then why get mad when people act the way they do....Humans are going to always act the way they do...accept this like you accept when it rains."

I try to remember that when I have those low tolerance days....The way people behave should be of no shock to me....and I will be dealing with it for the rest of my life....So I try to view it that way and see that the negative aspects of people is as common as a change in the weather....

Sinister said:

I like that quote the only issue I have w/ it is that as we (humans) have the ability to empathize whereas nature does not, so we should expect certain bevaviors from our fellow humans. One of my biggest goals as a father is to teach my children empathy and respect for others. It is really sad that those traits seem to be missing in the majority of people.

CoJones said:

I don't think those things are taught and if they are they are more general teachings than anything in depth....Like "Be nice to people or Show some respect" But I don't think enough parents sit down and really teach and show examples like they should....So once the kids get old then they don't have the traits they should have...

Sinister said:

Totally agree.

For some reason this song comes to mind:

nine inch nails-Right Where It Belongs

See the animal in his cage that you built,
Are you sure what side you're on?
Better not look him too closely in the eye,
Are you sure what side of the glass you are on?

See the safety of the life you have built,
Everything where it belongs.
Feel the hollowness inside of your heart,
And it's all,
Right where it belongs.

What if everything around you,
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?

And if you look at your reflection,
Is that all you want to be?
What if you could look right through the cracks,
Would you find yourself,
Find yourself afraid to see?

What if all the world's inside of your head,
Just creations of your own?
Your Devils and your Gods,
All the living and the dead,
And you're really all alone?

You can live in this illusion,
You can choose to believe.
You keep looking but you can't find the words,
Now you're hiding in retreat.

What if everything around you,
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you used to know,
Is an elaborate dream?

And if you look at your relection,
Is that all you want to be?
What if you could look right through the cracks,
Would you find yourself,
Find yourself afraid to see?