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Thread started 04/28/05 9:32am

thesexofit

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Lolita is fantastic (book and film)



I have read many books. Fav being "to kill a mockingbird" (how original huh?)

Ages ago I did a thread where i said that teens sleeping with underage girls is not uncommon on the estates in UK where I live. I admit to doing this when I was 16 and a girl was 14. I got alot of stick. I understand why. Someone suggested that the book "lolita" was great and more then a peodophiles tale. I ignored it until recently.

What a fantastic book. Yes the core is about a underage girl having sex with a man, but the words and imagry and humour are priceless. It is soo well written. U actually find the man, humbert, quite lovable, dispite taking advantage of the girl alot of the time. By far one of the best witten books ever. I have not read sentances the way the author (russian Vladimir nabokov) wirtes them. Awesome for the way it flows alone.

I have seen the recent movie (the 1997 one, not the kubrick one) and it does capture the book very well. It leaves out loads of course, but it does amazinly well though by not skimping out on some of the more lurid things humbert does to lol!

This book is a must read. It does make u squimr a little, but this is not a porn book by any means I promise u. If anything, it is rather sweet. The way Humbert became to fancy children (or nymphs) is very poignant)




Both film and more importantly book, are the best things I have read and seen in a looong time. Book is infact, one of my all time favs.
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Reply #1 posted 04/28/05 9:35am

Fauxie

I like the original film. The remake is ok.
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Reply #2 posted 04/28/05 9:36am

testicleman

the book is outstanding.

i'm not so keen on the recent film, to be honest.
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Reply #3 posted 04/28/05 9:39am

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wink I was the one recommending it I guess. I added the Jeremy Irons-picture, remember lick

Very nice book! I read it at a Lolita-age myself, and it was rather exciting. Nabokov is a great writer.
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Reply #4 posted 04/28/05 9:40am

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testicleman said:

the book is outstanding.

i'm not so keen on the recent film, to be honest.



Whys that? jermey irons to me does not look like humbert (I imaigned him better built for starters) but he does very well considering what he has to do in the film. The girl herself (Dominique swain) is fantastic. Very surprised at the depth of her acting. Though she looks a little older then she should be.
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Reply #5 posted 04/28/05 9:41am

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thesexofit said:

testicleman said:

the book is outstanding.

i'm not so keen on the recent film, to be honest.



Whys that? jermey irons to me does not look like humbert (I imaigned him better built for starters) but he does very well considering what he has to do in the film. The girl herself (Dominique swain) is fantastic. Very surprised at the depth of her acting. Though she looks a little older then she should be.


that's one of the key problems.
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Reply #6 posted 04/28/05 9:42am

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You really owe it to yourself to see the original movie...trust us.

You should see it for Kubricks work alone.

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Reply #7 posted 04/28/05 9:42am

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MarieLouise said:

wink I was the one recommending it I guess. I added the Jeremy Irons-picture, remember lick

Very nice book! I read it at a Lolita-age myself, and it was rather exciting. Nabokov is a great writer.


Oh it was u. Big thanx. U know, the book cover I pictured above is the exact one I got out the library. The cover did put me off somewhat, but gave it a go. I'll look out for his other books.

Big thanx again.
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Reply #8 posted 04/28/05 9:45am

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testicleman said:

thesexofit said:




Whys that? jermey irons to me does not look like humbert (I imaigned him better built for starters) but he does very well considering what he has to do in the film. The girl herself (Dominique swain) is fantastic. Very surprised at the depth of her acting. Though she looks a little older then she should be.


that's one of the key problems.



I do not know how old she is (though imdb.com will tell u) but ? I think the recent film was controversial anyway, so maybe the producers just thought that they should play it safe with the girl herself?

I may check out the original movie. But "they" say the recent one is alot better and less tame. The movie cannot be tame really.
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Reply #9 posted 04/28/05 9:46am

Case

I'm a HUGE fan of "Lolita." I adore the book and both versions of the movie. I actually think it's one of the few love stories that actually rings true. "Lolita" is a story of obsession and the inability to grow after a broken heart. There's a LOT of truth in the story about human nature. The pedophilia angle is secondary to Nabokov's ultimate point about humanity...and the way that men love.
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Reply #10 posted 04/28/05 9:46am

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testicleman said:

thesexofit said:




Whys that? jermey irons to me does not look like humbert (I imaigned him better built for starters) but he does very well considering what he has to do in the film. The girl herself (Dominique swain) is fantastic. Very surprised at the depth of her acting. Though she looks a little older then she should be.


that's one of the key problems.


Well, I know some of you will kill me for this, but I thought the Kubrick-version is overrated. Lolita is too whorish in this Kubrick-film, and she looks too old just the same. I don't know. I didn't like her.

I read the book first, and to me a nimphet is very subtle in seducing. To me, this other girl was better casted.
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Reply #11 posted 04/28/05 10:05am

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superspaceboy said:

You really owe it to yourself to see the original movie...trust us.

You should see it for Kubricks work alone
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nod One of Kubrick's many masterpieces. Peter Sellers was oustanding in the original and James Mason's performance was ridiculously good. I hate when they try to remake masterpieces because they were done right the first time.
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Reply #12 posted 04/28/05 10:06am

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And Shelly Winters nails Dolores' wanton and overt deprivation. It really is a classic. Man, I miss Kubrick.
"She made me glad to be a man"
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Reply #13 posted 04/28/05 10:09am

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

superspaceboy said:

You really owe it to yourself to see the original movie...trust us.

You should see it for Kubricks work alone
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nod One of Kubrick's many masterpieces. Peter Sellers was oustanding in the original and James Mason's performance was ridiculously good. I hate when they try to remake masterpieces because they were done right the first time.



Interesting views on both the book (which I thought was still rather taboo, particually for my age) and which movie is the preferred version.

I will see the kubrick one eventually. Unfortunately, movie never seems to come onto tv. Iam not a kubrick fan so maybe i wont like it just for the angles etc.....
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Reply #14 posted 04/28/05 10:09am

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jillybean said:

And Shelly Winters nails Dolores' wanton and overt deprivation. It really is a classic. Man, I miss Kubrick.


thumbs up!
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Reply #15 posted 04/28/05 10:15am

kisscamille

Nabokov wrote some great books, Lolita being one of them. The movie was good too, but you can't beat the book.
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Reply #16 posted 04/29/05 6:53pm

thesexofit

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kisscamille said:

Nabokov wrote some great books, Lolita being one of them. The movie was good too, but you can't beat the book.



Man nabokov sure had a varied career as a novelist. Some of his stuff is hard to get into to say the least.

U reckon they should teach this book in schools? Ha, that would shake things up from the norm.
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Reply #17 posted 05/02/05 2:32pm

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Theres a very fine line there that we often openly cross without giving it too much thought - I guess it must be an animal thing I suppose.

Men are naturally attracted to younger women (no paedophilia) perhaps because they signify better breeding.

What I always find strange is that school girl uniforms are such an open and acceptable sexual fantasy...surely that has to have something shady attached...what else could it possibly represent, it cant be a dominace thing surely?
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