Steadwood said:

She is definitely watching them
I'm online..but I did choose the channel

ThreadCula said:

Does she Dance ...


...(pictures please)

ThreadCula said:

Face!!!

well she's a large breed dog... im suggesting Eukanuba for large breed.. but please dont change her diet too quickly trust me, nothing worse than Doberman shit.. lol

TheRealFiness said:

oh....I learned that the hard way....several times

why bother feeding the dog, they do nothing but shit all over the place and have ur couch smelling funky anyways


SHOOT THE DAMN DOG!

Xavier23 said:

Hannah...

...Over my dead body...

Xavier23 said:

shitting all over the place and leaving the couch smelling funky????...are u sure thats not your bad traits??

...My Hannah always smells good and she shits next to her favorite tree

Dog and cat food are not the same. Cat food has more ash, or less or something, anyway, there are differences and stick with the dog food.

I feed Maggs Iams with Lamb and Rice. The Rice is good for digestion and regular crappies.

bluesbaby said:

Must be murder using the chopsticks though

Steadwood said:

i feed my animals this

Steadwood said:

what?????

please take a look at this before you make your final choice...or ANY comparison chart ...




http://www.ourpetfood.com...rison.html






forgot the link edit
[Edited 5/2/05 19:41pm]

Being lethargic and losing appetite is more likely to indicate illness (be it minor tummy upset or something more) than any problem with food. Problems with food are more likely to show up as a poor coat, weight issues, joint issues, things like that.

That said, go with a food from a company that has done actual RESEARCH (meaning, ignore all of the bullshit claims about "natural" and moaning about ingredients from people who don't know what they are talking about). Because dogs eat the same thing every day, the right balance is important.

Iams/Eukanuba and Hills/ScienceDiet are good. For a big dog, I'd probably go with a large breed formula for joint health. Don't go by what the dog likes the best. Dogs are like us. They like crap (salt and sugar) that tastes good. No healthy dog with access to food ever starved to death.

Meaning, if your dog isn't eating enough, they probably aren't healthy.

Mach said:

See, this is what I'm talking about. By-product ingredients are often more nutrient-dense than non-by-products, because they contain things like organ meats that humans think are icky but which are actually quite nutritious. And what the hell is worng with beet pulp? My understanding is that Eukanuba puts that in their food to help with insulin/blood sugar regulation (Teacher? Am I remembering that right?).

But people who don't know jack about this stuff go, "by-products, EW!" Yeah, "ew" is not science.

Thanks tackam

tackam said:

damn good thing i wasnt running my mouth saying "EWW" huh


i also feed raw meats and organs and intestines

EEEWWWWW

Mach said:

I was replying to the link more than to your post.

Sorry, but working in the veterinary industry for many moons, I've heard all of the same crap over and over. . .and most of it is basically some variation of "ew" or "I don't want to feed my overbred domesticated pet animal something that isn't ALL NATURAL, whatever on Earth that might mean."

Raw meats = bad.
Organs = good.

tackam said:

have been raising dogs for almost 30 yrs now ...

i understand your points

westies seem to do best on this mixed diet ... the Dobes i had did too

not too much raw meat is used it's a balance of kibble and the organs/meats

there are pros and cons with EVERY feeding style

and yes, i would guess working IN a Vet office you hear alot of whinners and "EWWWWWS"

my woofers gets boiled chicken with a little bit of MY DOG and PURINE ONE dry food, they love it sometimes they are lucky and get steak.
I try give them human food, not a lot of canned stuff, cause u just don't know
I heard PAL is really bad for them

Thanks everybody!!

Kraft Cheese

ElectricBlue said:

Mach said:

tackam said:

Eukanuba expert on-line We (Eukanuba) put grain, beet pulp and sorghum in the kibble to regulate the insuline/blood sugar level so that it'll be even between the meals yes.

ThreadCula said:

Cats need a lot more protein than dogs do, but less fat. Also, when dogs get older they're more like people in that they lose muscle volume (built by protein) whereas cats don't, they need more fat. Therefore, in the food you should give your pets when they get into a more mature/senior age, in dog food you should look for a high protein content but low in fat, and the reverse in cat food.
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sinisterpentatonic said:

those go into my new recipe

Teacher said:

I am sooooo glad you are here on the Org teacher!!!! what a great resource you are. Thanks for loving animals and being willing to share!

ThreadCula said:

I don't really have an answer to this

....But here's a fiver if it helps...