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Thread started 04/28/05 12:24pm

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IM TORN..... MY FIRST EVER 2 TOPIC'S AT ONCE THREAD....

FIRST... i came back from the kids school this afternoon, which was GREAT - i'll tell you about that in a minute... but, when i got home, i needed to take the pups out for a walk. got them out, got their leashes on, and we headed out to take care of business.... while im standing out there praising them for their good deeds, a FUCKING PIT BULL comes out from the front of the complex in front of us !!! now, here i am, standing all alone, with two small, but INCREDIBLY strong dogs on rather long leashes, and a pit bull running up to me sigh what the fuck am i to do ??? the owner of the pit bull, this woman rolleyes keeps calling its name (as if thats gonna help !! jesus, go GET your fucking dog ya stupid bitch !!!). anyway, the dog runs up, stops dead in its tracks, and stands there staring at my dogs... my dogs of course are going NUTS trying to get to it... they were running all around me, im tied up in leashes, my legs were completely stuck together !!! all three dogs are looking like they want to kill each other now... and this silly bitch is STILL just calling her dog like hes a lil pup or something disbelief this went on for about 20 minutes !!!! i have cuts on my arms from the leashes digging into my hands and arms, i KNOW i have bruises all over my legs, i cannot TELL you how tight my legs were wrapped bawl this complex, its the one in front of us... OUR complex doesnt allow pit bulls or even pit bull mixes of any kind no no no! i was completely pissed and wanted to call the cops, but, as it turns out, in calming down and thinking about it, this is my sons friends dog and mother sigh so, i simply called her on the phone and told her.. "ya know, i needed to let you know that situation that happened out there, that cannot happen again, as my CHILDREN walk their dogs out here, and i CANNOT have your dog putting my babies in that type situation. please dont bring that dog outside without a leash again." she said, "yes maam, it wont happen again..." thanked me, and that was it. its my opinion that she was concerned i was going to call the police - WHICH i still think i should.... make no mistake, the dog didnt attack me, or my dogs, BUT, just from having to hold my dogs back, and the physical punishment i went through for that alone, i would NEVER want my babies to have to go through that !!!! any advice ??? sad



SECOND TOPIC..... the BUG awards.... this is a MUCH happier story !!! so, i go to the school, first i sat with my daughter for her lunch time, she thought that was pretty cool wink then i went outside with her for a minute until my son's class came down... then the most magical thing happened ....

when he saw me, he put his arm out, as if to 'escort' me to the lunch room touched we got our lunches... he had pre-ordered mine... we sat down, talked to each other and to the kids around us about their day and how things were going with them. then the program began...

turns out, my son didnt get a BUG award.... instead, he was called at the end for the straight A's award. they did this for all of the 4th, 5th, and 6th graders all together. you know what ?? do you know how many straight A students they have there ???? they have 4 ! just 4 straight A kids.. and MY BABY was one of them woot!

heres where the magic comes in... when the called his name, of course, i was so proud, and my lil heart kinda skipped a beat lol but, when he was up there, he looked over at me, they were taking pictures for the school paper, and he WINKED at me bawl it was like our entire life together flashed before my eyes.... him as a little bitty baby, him when he was learning to talk, my first hugs, just tons of memories of him when he was little.... and all the sudden, as i felt sooooo happy for him, it dawned on me and made me feel kinda sad.... my baby is growing up cry hes not gonna be there for those awesome hugs anymore someday, he'll think its to 'weird' or not right to hug on momma that way anymore sad i was torn between being so happy for him, and missing my 'baby' .... then, when it was time to come back to their seats... you know what he did ????


he gave me a HUGE hug and a BIG kiss !!!!! and said THANK YOU MOMMA SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND I LOVE YOU SO MUCH bawl


so, now, im a mix of proud as can be... sad... yet, excited about the future and everything it holds.. and PISSED OFF at my neighbor - and im bleeding bawl


somebody pass me a tissue.... well, maybe 2... thanks

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Reply #1 posted 04/28/05 12:27pm

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Reply #2 posted 04/28/05 12:34pm

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What a wonderful woman you are.




- as far as the leash thing be carefull of the type of leash, the retractable ones have been known to amputate in extreme conditions.

Why do people always assume leash laws do not aply to their wonderful dog, the minute they think that you know theyre dog will be a problem.
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Reply #3 posted 04/28/05 12:38pm

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noonblueapples said:

What a wonderful woman you are.




- as far as the leash thing be carefull of the type of leash, the retractable ones have been known to amputate in extreme conditions.

Why do people always assume leash laws do not aply to their wonderful dog, the minute they think that you know theyre dog will be a problem.

thank you sweetie hug

and i have NOOOOO idea what the fuck this female was thinking - it was a pit bull for god's sake !!!!! i have never been so scared in all my life ... animal wise that is, i just KNEW i was going to be torn to shreds with no where to go as i was all tangled up in MY damn leashes bawl

im still bleeding sad

can i get a bandaid ?????
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Reply #4 posted 04/28/05 12:47pm

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Document your run in witgh your neighbor. I wouldn't get her in trouble...but do document it somehow. Also find out if she does this often.

I am coming from a city (san fran) that had that case with the Dog Mauling killing a Partner of this woman. The out come is not important, but these dogs were not on leashes and their owner had a hard time controlling them. They all lived in a complex too.

Luckily in the case there had been other reprts of issues with these dogs which helped. But the initial things said were that the person provoked the attack and that this was the first time they had ever done this...stunning it's owner even because of the "surprise" attack. It came out later that this wasn't the first time the dogs were unruly. So it was ruled that the owners KNEW that their dogs were dangerous and still did nothing. Much of the testamony was hinged on this "knowing".

Document it somehow...bookmark this page..tell a neighbor or something.

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Reply #5 posted 04/28/05 1:18pm

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hm..


with the "confrontational canine conundrum"..
if I were in that situation, I believe that I would have "erred on the side of caution" & informed the police 1st, then maybe inform the neighbor that I advised the police of her dog (I would do this if I thought she would react in a mature & responsible manner).

if the property rules clearly state that no such dogs are allowed, that's it. those are the rules. you did not make them nor are you there to "enforce" then. you are only.. "involved" in this to the extent that this situation could have implications for the safety & health of you & your children & your pets.

this woman with the pit bull, it's VERY DIFFICULT to imagine that she was unaware of this rule before moving in. if she knew about it & came with or bought the dog anyway, then she is clearly flouting the rules of the property & I imagine she could be setting herself up to be expelled from the property, minimally.


in my opinion, you were really nice to this woman & you did her a favor. okay, she's the mother of 1 of your son's friends but that has virtually nothing to do with the potential threat represented by this pit bull.

me in this situation - if I had not called the police to inform them of this,
then I would have then insisted that this woman to call me EVERY DAY to let me know when she plans to (or when she has just) take(n) out her dog, then I would take my dogs out when I knew she wouldn't be out there..
if my kid(s) still walked the dogs, I'd go with them- every time.
I would not - at all - want to risk the safety & health of myself, my children or my dogs.

she was able to control her dog this time - but what about the next time??? or what if someone else walks her dog next time???

I'm not writing this to "scare" you nakedpiano, but it IS important to realize that with animals- especially pit bulls - anything can happen.
again- me personally, I would rather be too cautious than to-
well.. you know.



then to close this post (as you did your initial thread here) on a MUCH LIGHTER note..

ah.. I can see how you're "torn" between the special joy of the moment & the realization that moments like these (at least with your son as a child) will be fewer & fewer..
but I think that's all the more reason to

appreciate this moment right now,
appreciate it exactly for the very special moment it is.

10 or 20 or 30 years from now, you'll look back on this day & have a BIG smile on your face & a warm feeling in your heart.

I'm sure your son will too.
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As far as your neighbor goes, a full grown pit is not going to be controlled by any leash if it decides to act a fool. If it had a leash on, she couldn't control it! That is why she didn't go get it. She wouldn't have been able to pick it up and physically stop it anyway. We have laws about pitbulls for a reason especially in complexes.

On to ur second topic!

It is so sweet and a lil scary when we begin to see them grow and slip away into their social lives. We sometimes get forgotten. It is a good feeling when they remember. My son is 5 and will be 6 in a month. (just got done with the invitations). A recent moment was when he walked up to me while I was doing laundry and asked, " Can I have a friend from school come over and play with me?". It was his first friend that he ever mentioned coming over. I said it was ok but I have to meet this kid's mom and stuff to see if it is ok. He pulled ou this piece of paper that he said had his friends phone number on it. I tried not to bust out laughing but it was missing three numbers! Bless his heart!smile
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Reply #7 posted 04/28/05 4:15pm

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mltijchr said:

hm..


with the "confrontational canine conundrum"..
if I were in that situation, I believe that I would have "erred on the side of caution" & informed the police 1st, then maybe inform the neighbor that I advised the police of her dog (I would do this if I thought she would react in a mature & responsible manner).

if the property rules clearly state that no such dogs are allowed, that's it. those are the rules. you did not make them nor are you there to "enforce" then. you are only.. "involved" in this to the extent that this situation could have implications for the safety & health of you & your children & your pets.

this woman with the pit bull, it's VERY DIFFICULT to imagine that she was unaware of this rule before moving in. if she knew about it & came with or bought the dog anyway, then she is clearly flouting the rules of the property & I imagine she could be setting herself up to be expelled from the property, minimally.


in my opinion, you were really nice to this woman & you did her a favor. okay, she's the mother of 1 of your son's friends but that has virtually nothing to do with the potential threat represented by this pit bull.

me in this situation - if I had not called the police to inform them of this,
then I would have then insisted that this woman to call me EVERY DAY to let me know when she plans to (or when she has just) take(n) out her dog, then I would take my dogs out when I knew she wouldn't be out there..
if my kid(s) still walked the dogs, I'd go with them- every time.
I would not - at all - want to risk the safety & health of myself, my children or my dogs.

she was able to control her dog this time - but what about the next time??? or what if someone else walks her dog next time???

I'm not writing this to "scare" you nakedpiano, but it IS important to realize that with animals- especially pit bulls - anything can happen.
again- me personally, I would rather be too cautious than to-
well.. you know.



then to close this post (as you did your initial thread here) on a MUCH LIGHTER note..

ah.. I can see how you're "torn" between the special joy of the moment & the realization that moments like these (at least with your son as a child) will be fewer & fewer..
but I think that's all the more reason to

appreciate this moment right now,
appreciate it exactly for the very special moment it is.

10 or 20 or 30 years from now, you'll look back on this day & have a BIG smile on your face & a warm feeling in your heart.

I'm sure your son will too.

ok, heres the deal... i've decided to go ahead and make some sort of report about the incident simply because i need to have it documented ... and also, the children will not be walking the dog alone again shake i love all animals.... and its true not all pit bulls are horrible dogs, but it is my belief that in the face of danger, i WILL NOT offer my children or their pets as a 'lets see if this will pan out' kinda deal shake being that i just got back home, and my only option at this time is to call 911, i will wait till morning, and i will simply make a report, without letting them know that i know where the dog is from exactly.... that way i stay 'clean' with the neighbors. and i thank you hug sweetheart for your concerns - i know that you are being as protective as you can be in this situation.. i appreciate it very much kiss

about jake... yeah, its all good hug i saw him today after school ... hes still jake, still makin me laugh, still being a clown... he knows, and i know that he will have many, MANY loves in his life - but i feel secure enough in my work with him to know that momma will always hold a special place in his heart nod my boy could be 60 years old... and you ask him, who loves ya ??? i hope his first answer is still... I KNOW FOR DAMN SURE MY MOMMA DOES !!!!


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Reply #8 posted 04/28/05 4:22pm

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purpleizpassion said:

As far as your neighbor goes, a full grown pit is not going to be controlled by any leash if it decides to act a fool. If it had a leash on, she couldn't control it! That is why she didn't go get it. She wouldn't have been able to pick it up and physically stop it anyway. We have laws about pitbulls for a reason especially in complexes.

On to ur second topic!

It is so sweet and a lil scary when we begin to see them grow and slip away into their social lives. We sometimes get forgotten. It is a good feeling when they remember. My son is 5 and will be 6 in a month. (just got done with the invitations). A recent moment was when he walked up to me while I was doing laundry and asked, " Can I have a friend from school come over and play with me?". It was his first friend that he ever mentioned coming over. I said it was ok but I have to meet this kid's mom and stuff to see if it is ok. He pulled ou this piece of paper that he said had his friends phone number on it. I tried not to bust out laughing but it was missing three numbers! Bless his heart!smile


first topic... thats what im sayin nod pit bulls are some nasty freakin dogs !! and like you said, if this was a dog that was going to attack - she wouldnt be able to hold it back anyway.... but, one thing bothers me... she was calling the dog, carrying a stick, and kept saying, 'im gonna beat your ass when you get in the house' sad if this dog is truely being exposed to that type of 'teachings' then for sure its not right in the head anyway. its a rough situation, but, at this point, all i can do is look out for my family and any other children that may be out there.


and the phone number thing ?? my daughter did that about a year ago, she woulda been the same age... lol poor girl, bless her heart, she couldnt figure out that the number wasnt gonna work, so, i said, here, just go try for yourself sad ... eventually, she gave up. but yeah, its so sweet when you see them reach out for their friends from school and daycare and whatnot... that is of course, if they are good kids that they want to play with, cuz, if not - and i have had this happen.. its hell trying to explain why they cant play with them simply because you dont approve of their beliefs in whats ok and whats not ok disbelief

have fun momma hug hope it all goes smoothly.... rose
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