WhamBamGlamSlam said: What's the Jim Carrey movie where he sees a beautiful woman breast feeding, and all of a sudden he's the one suckin' her titty?
"Me Myself and Irene" | |
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roanmairin said: Totally agree, only Americans would think that hiding that humans lactate and that babies feed on milk from the mother would be showing "respect" for others.
Yes whatever you do hide them filthy, filthy, ugly, dirty, filthy breasts from our eyes before it corrupts our youth. Before you know it children will grow up not being ashamed of their bodies and having a greater understanding and tolerance of the amazing things our bodies can do. But we wouldn't want that, lets teach them that breast feeding is shameful and should be hidden. We need to keep them as embarrased and ashamed of their bodies as possible so we can sell them teeth whitener, hair dye, push up bras and bucket loads of makeup. What a fucked up way of looking at things. Welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave. first of all No where in my statement do I say that I think there is anything wrong with breastfeeding or that it was disgusting. I only made the a point that is it not shameful to be discreet. Read it again if you must! Your comment is just as sterotypical as me saying that everyone who is not american thinks the have all the right answers. I also said in my comment that Feeling that everyone should be ok with it is fine. They should be. But we that live in the real world know that there are many who are not. That's why nudists have colonies and getaways and don't prance their bare asses down the street. It's not the breast or nudity that is wrong it is public attitudes. I know that. just the same as when You put clothes on when u go out. Not because u feel your body is disgusting or even laws but because there is a certain way that people carry themselves in society. My son will not grow up to be ashamed of his mom just because I put a blankie over him while he fed. Besides, it is really him that matters right? Shake....shake, shake, shake. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said:[quote] roanmairin said: Totally agree, only Americans would think that hiding that humans lactate and that babies feed on milk from the mother would be showing "respect" for others.
Yes whatever you do hide them filthy, filthy, ugly, dirty, filthy breasts from our eyes before it corrupts our youth. Before you know it children will grow up not being ashamed of their bodies and having a greater understanding and tolerance of the amazing things our bodies can do. But we wouldn't want that, lets teach them that breast feeding is shameful and should be hidden. We need to keep them as embarrased and ashamed of their bodies as possible so we can sell them teeth whitener, hair dye, push up bras and bucket loads of makeup. What a fucked up way of looking at things. Welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave. I don't mean to rain on your parade but didn't u just say this... Also, most women I've seen--and believe me, I've had zillions of women in my office breastfeeding in front of me--are really good at covering themselves. Even though they're in a doctor's office and should feel completely at ease being nude, they don't just "whip them out", they're considerate of others sensitivities.
Women who choose to cover themselves outside of a doctor's office are also being considerate of others sensitivities. They are not ashamed or assuming a moral 'doomsday' if their breast is shown. Shake....shake, shake, shake. | |
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CarrieLee said: Just use a pump! It's not modifying babies eating habits! You're still feeding the kid!
lol, i can't get through the rest of the thread without responding... i can just see the way i guess we should feed our children we must stop what we are doing and sanitize a bottle (hmm... in the restaurant's bathroom?? ) then get out the pump that we must carry around sit and express a bottle of milk if the child is lucky it might still be lukewarm when you are done (they tend to be kind of fussy about that ) clean the pump get the child from where ever they have been hanging out screaming up until now try to calm them enough to take the bottle and then repeat this procedure two hours from now when the infant needs another feeding or better yet! make mothers stay at home! one more thing - if in a restaurant and a woman's breasts are pushed up and out so they are spilling out of her top would that put you off your meal?? and no - i do not have children | |
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emm said: CarrieLee said: Just use a pump! It's not modifying babies eating habits! You're still feeding the kid!
lol, i can't get through the rest of the thread without responding... i can just see the way i guess we should feed our children we must stop what we are doing and sanitize a bottle (hmm... in the restaurant's bathroom?? ) then get out the pump that we must carry around sit and express a bottle of milk if the child is lucky it might still be lukewarm when you are done (they tend to be kind of fussy about that ) clean the pump get the child from where ever they have been hanging out screaming up until now try to calm them enough to take the bottle and then repeat this procedure two hours from now when the infant needs another feeding or better yet! make mothers stay at home! one more thing - if in a restaurant and a woman's breasts are pushed up and out so they are spilling out of her top would that put you off your meal?? and no - i do not have children thats what i'm sayin' why go through that shit to make someone else comfortable who isn't comfortable with it? man please not in a million years will i make my life harder for someone who can't take it or whatever | |
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emm said: Something...
Feed me | |
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I agree. My cousin who breastfed all 3 of her children to the age of 9 mos used a pump along with regular breastfeeding. which is fine if your child will actually take synthetic nipples after having the real thing. She got around her problem by doing all that stuff at home. I used to help her. Some time before we had to leave she would express milk into several pre-sanitized bottles. There are ways to make all situations work for the best. Shake....shake, shake, shake. | |
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SomeoneElse said: emm said: Something...
Feed me | |
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so....
Push up bras and double-D implants are just SUPER, and all women should have them so men can ogle and fantasize all they want, but feeding a child in public is disgusting and barbaric? Who made up these rules? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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purpleizpassion said:[quote] AnotherLoverToo said: I don't mean to rain on your parade but didn't u just say this... Also, most women I've seen--and believe me, I've had zillions of women in my office breastfeeding in front of me--are really good at covering themselves. Even though they're in a doctor's office and should feel completely at ease being nude, they don't just "whip them out", they're considerate of others sensitivities.
Women who choose to cover themselves outside of a doctor's office are also being considerate of others sensitivities. They are not ashamed or assuming a moral 'doomsday' if their breast is shown. You're not "raining on my parade"; I think we agree more than we disagree on this topic. I applauded roanmairin's post because I agree with what she's said about American society's fixation on appearance and body image and marketing. I think I've explained my feelings and thoughts pretty plainly, but simply put: I really hope society loosens up on moms breastfeeding in public. I think most women tend to breastfeed in a manner that isn't "in your face", with blankets covering them, etc., and that's great because I think it helps people who are uncomfortable with it to feel a little more at ease. | |
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Problem is some people are offended by breast-feeding. They may be right, they may be wrong, that's a matter of opinion. What isn't a matter of opinion is the fact they are offended.
What irritates me is the attitude that mothers should be able to breast-feed wherever they want because it's `natural`, or `it's their baby and it's hungry`. As previously stated, many acts are `natural` doesn't mean they're for public display. And if you are breast feeding, maybe showing consideration for others wouldn't be a bad thing. There are alterantives to going into a public place where people are eating and doing something that some people may find offensive. | |
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Everyone has their own feelings on the subject, but for me, I enjoyed breastfeeding my son. I felt good knowoing I was giving my son something far healthier than formula. However, I would not do it again.
Smooches;) | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: PaisleyLace said: You're American and you're agreeing with her stereotypical statement? Yes, I'm American and have traveled a fair amount in other countries. Plus, I work with a large refugee population of pregnant women, so I've seen firsthand some of the cultural differences in parenting/attitude. Yes, it's a stereotypical comment--I and many other Americans obviously don't think/feel the way roanmairin states--but it's unfortunately true to a large degree. Our country promotes consumerism like no other, and a huge marketing strategy is to make people feel as if they aren't good enough. I think making people feel ashamed of their bodies also plays into this. Thanks for your response, I've enjoyed what you have had to say on this subject, it has been for educational for me. Reading the responses on this thread has made me realize exactly why I feel the way that I do. You're right, the US does promote consumerism to the highest degree. However, with the amount of publicity about breastmilk being the best thing to give their child, I see a lot more women in the U.S. breastfeeding their babies. I think this trend will continue to grow and to become more popular in the very near future. I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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meow85 said: so....
Push up bras and double-D implants are just SUPER, and all women should have them so men can ogle and fantasize all they want, but feeding a child in public is disgusting and barbaric? Who made up these rules? No one on this thread has said that all women should have push up bras and double-D implants for men to ogle. I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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doctormcmeekle said: Problem is some people are offended by breast-feeding. They may be right, they may be wrong, that's a matter of opinion. What isn't a matter of opinion is the fact they are offended.
What irritates me is the attitude that mothers should be able to breast-feed wherever they want because it's `natural`, or `it's their baby and it's hungry`. As previously stated, many acts are `natural` doesn't mean they're for public display. And if you are breast feeding, maybe showing consideration for others wouldn't be a bad thing. There are alterantives to going into a public place where people are eating and doing something that some people may find offensive. [Edited 4/23/05 17:26pm] I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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MsMisha319 said: Everyone has their own feelings on the subject, but for me, I enjoyed breastfeeding my son. I felt good knowoing I was giving my son something far healthier than formula. However, I would not do it again.
Smooches;) You wouldn't breastfeed ever again? Why is that, I'm curious. I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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PaisleyLace said: meow85 said: so....
Push up bras and double-D implants are just SUPER, and all women should have them so men can ogle and fantasize all they want, but feeding a child in public is disgusting and barbaric? Who made up these rules? No one on this thread has said that all women should have push up bras and double-D implants for men to ogle. Of course not, but it is the generally accepted attitude in North America. Push up bras and implants are accepted (and even ecouraged by some people!) but feeding a child makes people uncomfortable. North Americans sexualize breasts too much. The primary function is portable food for little ones, and any sexual connotations are meant to be secondary. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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I honestly don't understand how people could possibly have negative reactions to breastfeeding. I hear people all the time saying how they should hide it or cover up and I don't agree at all. If you can't look at a breast feeding mother with anything but normalcy something is wrong with you. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: If you can't look at a breast feeding mother with anything but normalcy something is wrong with you.
How about looking with an intense feeling of thirst? | |
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WhamBamGlamSlam said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: If you can't look at a breast feeding mother with anything but normalcy something is wrong with you.
How about looking with an intense feeling of thirst? Well shit, if you're thirsty than drink damnit! But don't fuckin hate over it 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! | |
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WhamBamGlamSlam said: CHUG! CHUG! CHUG! | |
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purpleizpassion said:[quote] AnotherLoverToo said: I don't mean to rain on your parade but didn't u just say this... Also, most women I've seen--and believe me, I've had zillions of women in my office breastfeeding in front of me--are really good at covering themselves. Even though they're in a doctor's office and should feel completely at ease being nude, they don't just "whip them out", they're considerate of others sensitivities.
Women who choose to cover themselves outside of a doctor's office are also being considerate of others sensitivities. They are not ashamed or assuming a moral 'doomsday' if their breast is shown. no that wasn't me | |
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PaisleyLace said: roanmairin said: Totally agree, only Americans would think that hiding that humans lactate and that babies feed on milk from the mother would be showing "respect" for others.
Yes whatever you do hide them filthy, filthy, ugly, dirty, filthy breasts from our eyes before it corrupts our youth. Before you know it children will grow up not being ashamed of their bodies and having a greater understanding and tolerance of the amazing things our bodies can do. But we wouldn't want that, lets teach them that breast feeding is shameful and should be hidden. We need to keep them as embarrased and ashamed of their bodies as possible so we can sell them teeth whitener, hair dye, push up bras and bucket loads of makeup. What a fucked up way of looking at things. Welcome to the land of the free and the home of the brave. Okay, question here, why is that being ashamed of breastfeeding is an "American" thing? Isn't that a stereotype? How do you know I'm non-American, but I have these opposing views to breastfeeding for my own personal reasons? I'm not upset, just wondering and trying to understand why you feel the way you do, and how you come to the conclusion that only Americans feel this way.. [Edited 4/23/05 6:14am] Are you American? [Edited 4/24/05 20:06pm] | |
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Mach said: benetton make awesome pictures that one is really nice. | |
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Doesn't Benetton know that mammies have gained their independence? | |
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[Edited 4/24/05 19:54pm] | |
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WhamBamGlamSlam said: Doesn't Benetton know that mammies have gained their independence?
She's a wetnurse!! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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roanmairin said: PaisleyLace said: Okay, question here, why is that being ashamed of breastfeeding is an "American" thing? Isn't that a stereotype? How do you know I'm non-American, but I have these opposing views to breastfeeding for my own personal reasons? I'm not upset, just wondering and trying to understand why you feel the way you do, and how you come to the conclusion that only Americans feel this way.. [Edited 4/23/05 6:14am] Are you American? [Edited 4/24/05 20:06pm] Why do you ask? If I were to say that I am American, would you say that my being American is why I view breastfeeding in the way that I do? I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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