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PrintableFleshofmyflesh said: I think you two should just breast feed each other at this point.
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AnotherLoverToo said:  Oh, no, Kayleigh, you're not offending me at all!! You make SUCH a good point--sometimes a woman can't breastfeed because she doesn't make enough milk or the baby won't latch on properly. Of course, in that case you just have to use formula.
In this topic, I was assuming we were talking about actively breastfeeding women, not whether to breastfeed or not. There are some valid reasons not to breastfeed--obviously, when there isn't enough milk or the baby is having difficulty. Also, there are some women who were sexually abused and so the pregnancy--having something inside of them that they have zero control over--and breastfeeding is highly uncomfortable for them. They feel like their bodies are being used and taken against their will again, it brings up old feelings. Thanks Kayleigh for bringing up an important point! Yes, I think we are on same level here with our conversation. I think like you that if there is a possibility to breast feed the baby, it is always better way than using formula. The real thing is always best  Time flies like an arrow
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PaisleyLace said: I know what you mean about having troubles breastfeeding, my sister-in-law had the same problem with both of her kids. She tried breastfeeding, but it just did not work out, so she wound up bottle feeding them. She felt bad too about it not going the way she had intended.Yes, it can be really hard for a mom. She's probably been thinking about breast feeding the baby for some months and then she finds out she's not able for it. Luckily I have a great hubby who helped me out there, being sensible and caring. Wit my second son I never had any troubles with breast feeding, it was very rewarding. Time flies like an arrow
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Fleshofmyflesh said: I think you two should just breast feed each other at this point.
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Kayleigh said: PaisleyLace said: I know what you mean about having troubles breastfeeding, my sister-in-law had the same problem with both of her kids. She tried breastfeeding, but it just did not work out, so she wound up bottle feeding them. She felt bad too about it not going the way she had intended.Yes, it can be really hard for a mom. She's probably been thinking about breast feeding the baby for some months and then she finds out she's not able for it. Luckily I have a great hubby who helped me out there, being sensible and caring. Wit my second son I never had any troubles with breast feeding, it was very rewarding. Having a supportive husband does wonders!  I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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Breast feeding is great for the baby. But please don't whip out your tit in Bertrucci's while I'm eating fettuchini alfredo  | |
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I can understand someone being uncomfortable breastfeeding in public.
I think it’s appropriate, and respectful, to be discreet in breastfeeding in public. But I would never consider berating a woman for breastfeeding in public or force her to breastfeed in a lavatory (that is SO VERY disgusting). If this is merely a question of Choice----Then the answer is a resounding YES. The best advice available right now is to breast feed your child. It is you obligation to do the best to raise your children. I don’t care if it’s embarrassing or uncomfortable---you took that responsibility when you choose to have the child. (Barring of course medical issues that would prevent breastfeeding---but that should be a given.) | |
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CarrieLee said: Breast feeding is great for the baby. But please don't whip out your tit in Bertrucci's while I'm eating fettuchini alfredo
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CarrieLee said: Breast feeding is great for the baby. But please don't whip out your tit in Bertrucci's while I'm eating fettuchini alfredo
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noonblueapples said: CarrieLee said: Breast feeding is great for the baby. But please don't whip out your tit in Bertrucci's while I'm eating fettuchini alfredo
What if your having a cazone? I don't want to see it while I'm eating anything!!! I don't see why they can't just do it in the restroom or something, or some place a little more private. It's not like it's disgusting or anything, I just don't think you need to throw it in everyone's faces. Just my opinion. | |
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DuckPurple said: I can understand someone being uncomfortable breastfeeding in public.
I think it’s appropriate, and respectful, to be discreet in breastfeeding in public. But I would never consider berating a woman for breastfeeding in public or force her to breastfeed in a lavatory (that is SO VERY disgusting). If this is merely a question of Choice----Then the answer is a resounding YES. The best advice available right now is to breast feed your child. It is you obligation to do the best to raise your children. I don’t care if it’s embarrassing or uncomfortable---you took that responsibility when you choose to have the child. (Barring of course medical issues that would prevent breastfeeding---but that should be a given.) It definitely is a woman's choice of whether or not to breastfeed a baby. I definitely would not berate a woman for breastfeeding in public, I would just avert my eyes the other way. I chose not to have children, perhaps that's a good decision on my part, given my uncomfortable feelings surrounding breastfeeding.  I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: I work in a Midwifery clinic with 6 midwives and 2 OB/GYNs. We also have a WIC department linked in. At first, I too was a little leery of the whole thing "in public" but as I've gotten used to it, I understand my issues were just that--MY issues. I realized we've sexualized the breast so much that we've lost track of the original and intended purpose of them and made them into something both erotic and shameful. That's really unfortunate. I've noticed women from Mexico, Central America and African countries are much less self-conscious about their breasts.
Also, most women I've seen--and believe me, I've had zillions of women in my office breastfeeding in front of me--are really good at covering themselves. Even though they're in a doctor's office and should feel completely at ease being nude, they don't just "whip them out", they're considerate of others sensitivities. When an infant is so hungry it won't stop crying, and knowing formula is much less beneficial nutrition-wise, it just seems stupid and priggish to be uptight about breastfeeding.  You're making a lot of sense lately.  | |
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CarrieLee said: noonblueapples said: What if your having a cazone? I don't want to see it while I'm eating anything!!! I don't see why they can't just do it in the restroom or something, or some place a little more private. It's not like it's disgusting or anything, I just don't think you need to throw it in everyone's faces. Just my opinion. I agree.I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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CarrieLee said: noonblueapples said: What if your having a cazone? I don't want to see it while I'm eating anything!!! I don't see why they can't just do it in the restroom or something, or some place a little more private. It's not like it's disgusting or anything, I just don't think you need to throw it in everyone's faces. Just my opinion.  | |
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PaisleyLace said: I'm a woman, but I think breast feeding is gross and barbaric, and not very ladylike. I know now that doctors tout it, say a mother's milk is the best thing to give your baby, blah, blah, blah, but I'm just not feeling it. Call me old fashioned or whatever, but it's not very ladylike to be in a public place and to see a baby sucking on a woman's boob. Not something to care to witness either.
 wow.. i read some of this thread, about half the responses before i decided to put my two cents in.... first of all HOW DARE YOU look at a mother feeding her child as !!!!! thats totally sick to me.... and you have serious issues !!!!
that being said, i can calmly state how i feel about this as a mother - not someone who is thinking about, or may someday be a mom, or just wants to judge others, or whatever... i AM a mom, and i WAS one of those women that just made you so sick to your stomach !!!!! its only called "sucking on a woman's boob" when youre having sex and the man enjoys your breasts  other than that its called... NURSING A CHILD - that means.... feeding your baby the way nature intended them to be fed !!!! thats afterall WHY you have the breasts to begin with ! 
if this bothers you so.... heres an idea.... TURN AWAY !! DONT WATCH !!! but get a grip on reality, a woman nursing her child is a beautiful thing, both to see, and to do... its the closest most natural thing that can happen between a mother and a child. there is NOTHING wrong with a woman breastfeeding a baby, and she should NEVER be made to feel that she should be doing it in a public bathroom to save YOU embarrassment
lord help us all... a woman cant even FEED her child without people judging, pointing, and feeling
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nakedpianoplayer said: PaisleyLace said: I'm a woman, but I think breast feeding is gross and barbaric, and not very ladylike. I know now that doctors tout it, say a mother's milk is the best thing to give your baby, blah, blah, blah, but I'm just not feeling it. Call me old fashioned or whatever, but it's not very ladylike to be in a public place and to see a baby sucking on a woman's boob. Not something to care to witness either.
wow.. i read some of this thread, about half the responses before i decided to put my two cents in.... first of all HOW DARE YOU look at a mother feeding her child as !!!!! thats totally sick to me.... and you have serious issues !!!!
that being said, i can calmly state how i feel about this as a mother - not someone who is thinking about, or may someday be a mom, or just wants to judge others, or whatever... i AM a mom, and i WAS one of those women that just made you so sick to your stomach !!!!! its only called "sucking on a woman's boob" when youre having sex and the man enjoys your breasts other than that its called... NURSING A CHILD - that means.... feeding your baby the way nature intended them to be fed !!!! thats afterall WHY you have the breasts to begin with !
if this bothers you so.... heres an idea.... TURN AWAY !! DONT WATCH !!! but get a grip on reality, a woman nursing her child is a beautiful thing, both to see, and to do... its the closest most natural thing that can happen between a mother and a child. there is NOTHING wrong with a woman breastfeeding a baby, and she should NEVER be made to feel that she should be doing it in a public bathroom to save YOU embarrassment
lord help us all... a woman cant even FEED her child without people judging, pointing, and feeling
get a grip !!!!! I do look away when I see a woman breastfeeding, as I stated above. I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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nakedpianoplayer said: PaisleyLace said: I'm a woman, but I think breast feeding is gross and barbaric, and not very ladylike. I know now that doctors tout it, say a mother's milk is the best thing to give your baby, blah, blah, blah, but I'm just not feeling it. Call me old fashioned or whatever, but it's not very ladylike to be in a public place and to see a baby sucking on a woman's boob. Not something to care to witness either.
wow.. i read some of this thread, about half the responses before i decided to put my two cents in.... first of all HOW DARE YOU look at a mother feeding her child as !!!!! thats totally sick to me.... and you have serious issues !!!! I'm sorry, but that is the very thing which created the problem in the first place. It's like ALT said: we've sexualized the breast so much that we've lost track of the original and intended purpose of them and made them into something both erotic and shameful. That means, it's not sick to watch. It's just as bad as saying it's gross. | |
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analbolique said:[quote] nakedpianoplayer said: wow.. i read some of this thread, about half the responses before i decided to put my two cents in.... first of all HOW DARE YOU look at a mother feeding her child as !!!!! thats totally sick to me.... and you have serious issues !!!! I'm sorry, but that is the very thing which created the problem in the first place. It's like ALT said: we've sexualized the breast so much that we've lost track of the original and intended purpose of them and made them into something both erotic and shameful.[quote]  I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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That looking for a private place would be great and all but good luck if you have 2 or more kids.
It's tricky enough keeping all your shit together without having to worry about whether anyone around you has personal issues with their bodies they haven't worked out. When a baby needs to be fed, as human beings we should all be supportive of women who chose to, and are able, to give them the best thing nature intended for baby humans (all mammals) to eat. Someone being uptight about sex should never interfere with the health of a new born child. The person who has a problem with it should be the one to leave until they can get to the root of their issues. Definately not the person caring for another human being. North americans are so uptight. I bet these same people don't get offended when they walk into a corner store and see pictures of war and violence on the papers. Or walk past a tv store showing images from a news braodcast of the same. It's really weird the things many people get offended by. We create an uproar over Janet Jackson breast but sit by and watch a genocide in Rwanda. Shame on us. | |
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roanmairin said: That looking for a private place would be great and all but good luck if you have 2 or more kids.
It's tricky enough keeping all your shit together without having to worry about whether anyone around you has personal issues with their bodies they haven't worked out. When a baby needs to be fed, as human beings we should all be supportive of women who chose to, and are able, to give them the best thing nature intended for baby humans (all mammals) to eat. Someone being uptight about sex should never interfere with the health of a new born child. The person who has a problem with it should be the one to leave until they can get to the root of their issues. Definately not the person caring for another human being. North americans are so uptight. I bet these same people don't get offended when they walk into a corner store and see pictures of war and violence on the papers. Or walk past a tv store showing images from a news braodcast of the same. It's really weird the things many people get offended by. We create an uproar over Janet Jackson breast but sit by and watch a genocide in Rwanda. Shame on us. Don't think it's so much a person having a issues with their body or sex moreso than it is just not caring to see someone breastfeeding in public. I don't intervene with the health of a newborn child and never will, since it is not my child and I have no say on the matter whatsoever. As I stated above, breastfeeding in public still bothers me, but I do avert my eyes when I see it occurring in a public place. Seeing pictures/videos of war and violence in the paper or on TV effects me the same way, I have the same reaction to it as I do breastfeeding, I dislike it. *However*, if I were to ever have a child (which is doubtful), my feelings on breastfeeding could possibly change. [Edited 4/22/05 13:21pm] I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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analbolique said: nakedpianoplayer said: wow.. i read some of this thread, about half the responses before i decided to put my two cents in.... first of all HOW DARE YOU look at a mother feeding her child as !!!!! thats totally sick to me.... and you have serious issues !!!! I'm sorry, but that is the very thing which created the problem in the first place. It's like ALT said: we've sexualized the breast so much that we've lost track of the original and intended purpose of them and made them into something both erotic and shameful. That means, it's not sick to watch. It's just as bad as saying it's gross. are you saying, IM creating a problem ???? or are you agreeing ??? One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
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I know this is a sensitive subject and I'm gonna try not to be an asshole about it. Personally I think there are enough people in the world and we don't need anymore children anyway!! haha That was a joke people, in case you didn't get it.
Yes your child needs to be fed when it's hungry. If you breast feed then use a pump and bring it along with you. You don't have to make it so "in your face" to everyone else. | |
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CarrieLee said: I know this is a sensitive subject and I'm gonna try not to be an asshole about it. Personally I think there are enough people in the world and we don't need anymore children anyway!! haha That was a joke people, in case you didn't get it.
Yes your child needs to be fed when it's hungry. If you breast feed then use a pump and bring it along with you. You don't have to make it so "in your face" to everyone else. You're not being an asshole at all, I agree with you totally. I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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CarrieLee said: I know this is a sensitive subject and I'm gonna try not to be an asshole about it. Personally I think there are enough people in the world and we don't need anymore children anyway!! haha That was a joke people, in case you didn't get it.
Yes your child needs to be fed when it's hungry. If you breast feed then use a pump and bring it along with you. You don't have to make it so "in your face" to everyone else. but, why does it have to be 'anything' in your face ???? cant it just be the same as seeing a baby drinking a bottle ??? you look over, and oh, thats nice, the baby is eating too  One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
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PaisleyLace said: Don't think it's so much a person having a issues with their body or sex moreso than it is just not caring to see someone breastfeeding in public.
The first half of that sentence causes the second half. Why do you think the vast majority of the planet thinks nothing about seeing a woman breast feeding. The way you view the breast causes the way you view breastfeeding. You cannot disassociate the sexual aspect of the breast from the intended purpose of the breast. Otherwise you would think nothing of seeing a woman breast feeding. What else could cause your reaction, hating to see a child with a healthy diet? I doubt it. | |
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roanmairin said: PaisleyLace said: Don't think it's so much a person having a issues with their body or sex moreso than it is just not caring to see someone breastfeeding in public.
The first half of that sentence causes the second half. Why do you think the vast majority of the planet thinks nothing about seeing a woman breast feeding. The way you view the breast causes the way you view breastfeeding. [b]You cannot disassociate the sexual aspect of the breast from the intended purpose of the breast.[/b] Otherwise you would think nothing of seeing a woman breast feeding. What else could cause your reaction, hating to see a child with a healthy diet? I doubt it. That point was brought up by another poster, and I responded that I was raised in a strict household where I would probably get my ass whooped if I showed any "private part" of my body. Guess in view of that I tend to view breastfeeding differently than a lot of other people do. Perhaps that's why I have such an aversion to breastfeeding, but like I also stated earlier, if I were to ever have a child, that could change. After you give birth to a baby, I don't think that any part of your body is so "private" anymore. [Edited 4/22/05 13:30pm] I'm not a newbie, just an orger with a second account. | |
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roanmairin said: PaisleyLace said: Don't think it's so much a person having a issues with their body or sex moreso than it is just not caring to see someone breastfeeding in public.
The first half of that sentence causes the second half. Why do you think the vast majority of the planet thinks nothing about seeing a woman breast feeding. The way you view the breast causes the way you view breastfeeding. You cannot disassociate the sexual aspect of the breast from the intended purpose of the breast. Otherwise you would think nothing of seeing a woman breast feeding. What else could cause your reaction, hating to see a child with a healthy diet? I doubt it.  One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
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nakedpianoplayer said: CarrieLee said: I know this is a sensitive subject and I'm gonna try not to be an asshole about it. Personally I think there are enough people in the world and we don't need anymore children anyway!! haha That was a joke people, in case you didn't get it.
Yes your child needs to be fed when it's hungry. If you breast feed then use a pump and bring it along with you. You don't have to make it so "in your face" to everyone else. but, why does it have to be 'anything' in your face ???? cant it just be the same as seeing a baby drinking a bottle ??? you look over, and oh, thats nice, the baby is eating too Because it's not the same, at least not to me. We can go on and on and on about this...it's just MY opinion. Like I said, I don't find it repulsive or anything it's the natural way. But taking a shit is natural too and I'm not about to squat in the middle of a restaraunt and dump. A lot of you are going to hate me for that! Just use a damn pump! | |
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