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Reply #30 posted 04/21/05 10:54am

dreamfactory31
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I dont usually give money to panhandlers. I do give time & money to charities.
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Reply #31 posted 04/21/05 10:59am

amorbella

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gave $1500.00 to breast cancer society in 2003 .....havent given any more since.....not a whole lot of money to go around these days.....but i do donate alittle $$$ (20-35 dollars a year) to my daughter's school
Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize
u simply imagined this
So u lean over and give her a kiss
Here on earth, here on earth,
with u it's not so bad
Here on earth, here on earth
eye don't feel so sad
Stay right here
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Reply #32 posted 04/21/05 11:34am

Mach

sag10 said:

I always give..

What is a dollar, or food?

Have any of you ever sat down and ate with a homeless person? I have, they have some very interesting, and sometimes sad lives.


during the holidaze we do vol work in the soup kitchen ... very interesting

and on fridays we hang out at the city plaza ( drum circle ) lots of homeless people come to play and share the music the have inside them

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Reply #33 posted 04/21/05 11:41am

superspaceboy

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sigh I live in San Francisco. If I gave to everyone that asked I'd be homeless. I hate to say it, but I rarely give out change...I get asked so many times, I usually ignore them. Every once in a while I do, but it's have to be someone old and not on drugs. And certainly not anyone young and able to work.

The homeless problem is a big issue here. I did help keep my friend off the street until he could find permanent housing. I think that's better than a little change.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #34 posted 04/21/05 1:52pm

brummytwat

TheFrog said:

i don't have a fixed strategy.

though i do remember being in church once and listening to a sermon in which the vicar said basically - who are we to judge if somebody uses the money we give them to buy alcohol or get a fix? these people are in a terrible situation and if that's how they find some respite, then that's how they find it; ideal though it obviously isn't.

anyway, that had some resonance for me.

though, having said that, this vicar then got himself into the national press because he ran off with another vicar's wife and left the church. lol so fuck knows what to think.

sad
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I totally agree with what you said, I used to judge drug/alcohol dependents on the street too harshly falsly believing they didn't have to be there

sadly it's not true and having started working with this group of people recently i know how hard they have to fight for even the simplest of pleasures.

There are not always places hostiles for homeless people to go to, and who am i to judge if at the end of the day when they have to sleep rough in a cold door way if they want to spend the last £10 they have on heroin so be it, infact i think if I would probably do the same myself. Life is hard for these people and giving to organisations rarely targets the people who need the money the most, so what if it's not our idea of a good use for the money if it makes there life a little more bearable.

I think about it as that at the end of the day if i have to sleep in a door way and it's -2 what is gonna make me feel better shooting up or a cup of soup, not a hard choice is it, oblivion from problems or just a full belly shrug

sigh
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Reply #35 posted 04/21/05 1:58pm

testicleman

brummytwat said:

TheFrog said:

i don't have a fixed strategy.

though i do remember being in church once and listening to a sermon in which the vicar said basically - who are we to judge if somebody uses the money we give them to buy alcohol or get a fix? these people are in a terrible situation and if that's how they find some respite, then that's how they find it; ideal though it obviously isn't.

anyway, that had some resonance for me.

though, having said that, this vicar then got himself into the national press because he ran off with another vicar's wife and left the church. lol so fuck knows what to think.

sad
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I totally agree with what you said, I used to judge drug/alcohol dependents on the street too harshly falsly believing they didn't have to be there

sadly it's not true and having started working with this group of people recently i know how hard they have to fight for even the simplest of pleasures.

There are not always places hostiles for homeless people to go to, and who am i to judge if at the end of the day when they have to sleep rough in a cold door way if they want to spend the last £10 they have on heroin so be it, infact i think if I would probably do the same myself. Life is hard for these people and giving to organisations rarely targets the people who need the money the most, so what if it's not our idea of a good use for the money if it makes there life a little more bearable.

I think about it as that at the end of the day if i have to sleep in a door way and it's -2 what is gonna make me feel better shooting up or a cup of soup, not a hard choice is it, oblivion from problems or just a full belly shrug

sigh


nod i would probably do exactly the same too.

hug won't you please stay? sad
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Reply #36 posted 04/21/05 2:01pm

brummytwat

testicleman said:

brummytwat said:



I totally agree with what you said, I used to judge drug/alcohol dependents on the street too harshly falsly believing they didn't have to be there

sadly it's not true and having started working with this group of people recently i know how hard they have to fight for even the simplest of pleasures.

There are not always places hostiles for homeless people to go to, and who am i to judge if at the end of the day when they have to sleep rough in a cold door way if they want to spend the last £10 they have on heroin so be it, infact i think if I would probably do the same myself. Life is hard for these people and giving to organisations rarely targets the people who need the money the most, so what if it's not our idea of a good use for the money if it makes there life a little more bearable.

I think about it as that at the end of the day if i have to sleep in a door way and it's -2 what is gonna make me feel better shooting up or a cup of soup, not a hard choice is it, oblivion from problems or just a full belly shrug

sigh


nod i would probably do exactly the same too.

hug won't you please stay? sad


hug

neutral Jon stop.
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Reply #37 posted 04/21/05 2:02pm

testicleman

brummytwat said:

testicleman said:



nod i would probably do exactly the same too.

hug won't you please stay? sad


hug

neutral Jon stop.


k
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Reply #38 posted 04/21/05 2:04pm

brummytwat

testicleman said:

brummytwat said:



hug

neutral Jon stop.


k


and that too

you know that means the same as ok

rolleyes
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Reply #39 posted 04/21/05 2:07pm

testicleman

brummytwat said:

testicleman said:



k


and that too

you know that means the same as ok

rolleyes

k
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Reply #40 posted 04/21/05 2:10pm

brummytwat

testicleman said:

brummytwat said:



and that too

you know that means the same as ok

rolleyes

k


mad
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Reply #41 posted 04/21/05 2:11pm

testicleman

brummytwat said:

testicleman said:


k


mad


biggrin

stop it toni. neutral
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Reply #42 posted 04/21/05 2:12pm

brummytwat

testicleman said:

brummytwat said:



mad


biggrin

stop it toni. neutral


k
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Reply #43 posted 04/21/05 2:12pm

testicleman

brummytwat said:

testicleman said:



biggrin

stop it toni. neutral


k


loser. lol
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Reply #44 posted 04/21/05 2:13pm

brummytwat

testicleman said:

brummytwat said:



k


loser. lol


nod yeah you get used to it, I play it for my advantage now, sympathy points go a long way smile
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Reply #45 posted 04/21/05 2:15pm

testicleman

brummytwat said:

testicleman said:



were you cool when they chopped your testicles off? sad


nod yeah you get used to it, I play it for my advantage now, sympathy points go a long way smile


hmmm
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Reply #46 posted 04/21/05 5:29pm

Slave2daGroove

lilmissmissy said:

I do it sometimez, but generally i watch them, and it IS sad dat they are experiencing such circumstancez...but at da sametimez, there are homes dat can take them in- so why then should they be begging. I also like 2 know they really ARE using da money for food- cause i ain't contributing 2 noone wasting their livez away hmph!

Sometimez i dont (give money 2 beggerz)- i do worry dat they see lil old me wif all my bagz, and all i need do is come across someone who seez my wallet and holdz me for ransom or sumfinz... eek -haven't experienced this but i do wonderz!

Most of da time my change is used on lunch anywayz lol but if da person really has a genuine vybe of desperation- if i have, i don't mind givingz.

Having said what i've mentioned though...if dat person is a 'crook' what makes him or her any different 2 da rat packz who are also crookz but just about managed to really make it in da world and make money out of it...having millionz bow down 2 them cause of da dollar signz they possess.

Give anyone a suit and a tie or a sophisticated dress and they can pull anything off. It'z da way da world can be. It'z a side of da story dat isn't pleasant. But it seemz so unfortunately true. It'z a dog eat dog place.

Now i'm gettin reminded of dat movie Trading Places lol

I'm just sayin... twocents


WTF does this say? besides,twocents

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Reply #47 posted 04/21/05 5:33pm

Slave2daGroove

I feed them if I have the money and they get the change if its in my pocket.

Homeless people should not be judged, period. There are school teachers sleeping in their cars because of circumstances we know nothing about but they still teach. Some homeless are mentally ill and the list is endless to why people are in that position.

To hear people treat another person like shit because they're homeless makes me want to smash their face in. The arrogance of some people is beyond comprehension.

but that's just me
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Reply #48 posted 04/21/05 6:16pm

Hotlegs

Slave2daGroove said:

I feed them if I have the money and they get the change if its in my pocket.

Homeless people should not be judged, period. There are school teachers sleeping in their cars because of circumstances we know nothing about but they still teach. Some homeless are mentally ill and the list is endless to why people are in that position.

To hear people treat another person like shit because they're homeless makes me want to smash their face in. The arrogance of some people is beyond comprehension.

but that's just me

nod You have a point. That's why I don't look over the beggars I try to give them something if I have cash on me at that time.
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