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Reply #30 posted 04/20/05 9:14am

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SomeoneElse said:

HowComeYouDontCallme said:

Can't you write to her parents and ask about her? Tell them you're not trying to upset anyone and you just want to know how she's doing??Or does the contract forbid that too?

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I tink it'll just make things harder. Any step that you take towards the child, will just want you to step closer even more and more, and it'll be harder to step back.
I think it's best to wait as agreed, until she's 18.

well, actually, i used to get pictures and letters every year at her birthday time.. letting me know how she is doing. when i got married, they sent a gift in her name. when my grandfather died this past summer, i recieved a card from their family. but, as shes getting older, i think they feel the pressure too.... who knows ? maybe shes asked about me ??? maybe they know that the time is comming when i will be able to see and talk to her, and although i have NO plans to try and 'take' her from them, i can see where it would be difficult to have that situation come about...

and as far as MY side goes... yes, if i write, i want them to write back, if they write back, i wanna see her, if i see her, i wanna hold her, theres never a way to just 'check in on her' as my feelings would overcome my common sense and i would want to shower myself in her in everyway. the hole she left in my heart is one that cannot be filled with my other children, a man, a dog, or anything else i have tried... there is only one person out there that can fill that hole, and one day, when the time is right.. i pray that she allows that and feels comfortable.

by the way... she lives about a block and a half away from my grandmother, so, my family gets to see her all the time... for me, its hard, because i think its so unfair... but at least, in some way, i know shes still doing ok heart
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Reply #31 posted 04/20/05 9:17am

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Um, I always thought we'd have to adopt. I figured we'd adopt a Thai or Cambodian child. Shortly after I hooked up with my now wife she had cancer of the ovary and after that it seemed like a bit of a long shot to have a baby. Then just recently she got pregnant, yet we decided she should have an abortion as we're not ready and don't have enough security in our situation. I hope we haven't made a mistake. sad

difficult decision for sure .... this type of thing is never easy to deal with hug my best wishes go to you and your wife, i hope things turn out perfect in the end heart
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Reply #32 posted 04/20/05 9:21am

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Fauxie said:

Um, I always thought we'd have to adopt. I figured we'd adopt a Thai or Cambodian child. Shortly after I hooked up with my now wife she had cancer of the ovary and after that it seemed like a bit of a long shot to have a baby. Then just recently she got pregnant, yet we decided she should have an abortion as we're not ready and don't have enough security in our situation. I hope we haven't made a mistake. sad

difficult decision for sure .... this type of thing is never easy to deal with hug my best wishes go to you and your wife, i hope things turn out perfect in the end heart



Thanks. hug

I hope everything works out ok for you. You're in a difficult situation, for sure.

The main thing is that you know she's doing ok and is with a good family. heart

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Reply #33 posted 04/20/05 9:27am

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Fauxie said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


difficult decision for sure .... this type of thing is never easy to deal with hug my best wishes go to you and your wife, i hope things turn out perfect in the end heart



Thanks. hug

I hope everything works out ok for you. You're in a difficult situation, for sure.

The main thing is that you know she's doing ok and is with a good family. heart

Keep on keeping on. nod rose

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Reply #34 posted 04/20/05 10:02am

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I tink it'll just make things harder. Any step that you take towards the child, will just want you to step closer even more and more, and it'll be harder to step back.
I think it's best to wait as agreed, until she's 18.

well, actually, i used to get pictures and letters every year at her birthday time.. letting me know how she is doing. when i got married, they sent a gift in her name. when my grandfather died this past summer, i recieved a card from their family. but, as shes getting older, i think they feel the pressure too.... who knows ? maybe shes asked about me ??? maybe they know that the time is comming when i will be able to see and talk to her, and although i have NO plans to try and 'take' her from them, i can see where it would be difficult to have that situation come about...

and as far as MY side goes... yes, if i write, i want them to write back, if they write back, i wanna see her, if i see her, i wanna hold her, theres never a way to just 'check in on her' as my feelings would overcome my common sense and i would want to shower myself in her in everyway. the hole she left in my heart is one that cannot be filled with my other children, a man, a dog, or anything else i have tried... there is only one person out there that can fill that hole, and one day, when the time is right.. i pray that she allows that and feels comfortable.

by the way... she lives about a block and a half away from my grandmother, so, my family gets to see her all the time... for me, its hard, because i think its so unfair... but at least, in some way, i know shes still doing ok heart

2 more years to go NPP!
I wish you peace and strength till that time. rose

There's this TV show here in the Netherland where people can try to find their families back! Most of the time these people are addopted and want answers why they were addopted. 99% are not mad at their biological parents..only want answers were they come from...who they look like..if they have brothers and sisters and why they were giving up for addoption.
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Reply #35 posted 04/20/05 10:21am

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well, actually, i used to get pictures and letters every year at her birthday time.. letting me know how she is doing. when i got married, they sent a gift in her name. when my grandfather died this past summer, i recieved a card from their family. but, as shes getting older, i think they feel the pressure too.... who knows ? maybe shes asked about me ??? maybe they know that the time is comming when i will be able to see and talk to her, and although i have NO plans to try and 'take' her from them, i can see where it would be difficult to have that situation come about...

and as far as MY side goes... yes, if i write, i want them to write back, if they write back, i wanna see her, if i see her, i wanna hold her, theres never a way to just 'check in on her' as my feelings would overcome my common sense and i would want to shower myself in her in everyway. the hole she left in my heart is one that cannot be filled with my other children, a man, a dog, or anything else i have tried... there is only one person out there that can fill that hole, and one day, when the time is right.. i pray that she allows that and feels comfortable.

by the way... she lives about a block and a half away from my grandmother, so, my family gets to see her all the time... for me, its hard, because i think its so unfair... but at least, in some way, i know shes still doing ok heart

2 more years to go NPP!
I wish you peace and strength till that time. rose

There's this TV show here in the Netherland where people can try to find their families back! Most of the time these people are addopted and want answers why they were addopted. 99% are not mad at their biological parents..only want answers were they come from...who they look like..if they have brothers and sisters and why they were giving up for addoption.

thanks sweetie hug 2 more years... well, 2 years and 3 months to be almost exact.... thats only about 820 more days.. ive gone about 5,475 days so far... so, this should be a piece of cake, right ??? sigh

woot! only 2 more years to go dancing jig
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Reply #36 posted 04/20/05 2:58pm

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Yes, I'm adopted. So are my two siblings...
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Reply #37 posted 04/20/05 3:01pm

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Reply #38 posted 04/20/05 3:10pm

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I'm adopted. And to tell you the truth, I don't want this to sound like I am insensitive or anything, but I don't care where my biological parents are at this point in my life. I'm doing fine without them, and am happy that they tried/succeeded to give me something they couldn't. I have no problem with it, but I personally don't like to tell people that I am. Not that I'm ashamed but because I just don't want them to know. But since your not just any person, I'm telling you kiss2
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Reply #39 posted 04/20/05 3:39pm

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Case said:

Yes, I'm adopted. So are my two siblings...

do you have any thoughts to share ?? please ?? hug
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Reply #40 posted 04/20/05 3:41pm

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Tish4 said:

I'm adopted. And to tell you the truth, I don't want this to sound like I am insensitive or anything, but I don't care where my biological parents are at this point in my life. I'm doing fine without them, and am happy that they tried/succeeded to give me something they couldn't. I have no problem with it, but I personally don't like to tell people that I am. Not that I'm ashamed but because I just don't want them to know. But since your not just any person, I'm telling you kiss2

wow.... ok, i accept your answer, and i thank you for your honesty hug

it hurts me to know that this is a very real thing that i may have to deal with... just the fact that she wont want to see/meet/know/love me .... its waaaaay more than i can deal with thinking about sad

im glad that you are doing well in life rose and i hope the best for you...
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Reply #41 posted 04/20/05 5:33pm

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gotta say... leaving it like this has made me very sad

i know there's nothing anyone can say to make it better, and i know this was all my choice, and i know i deserve everything im feeling.... but damn, this weighs on my heart in a HORRIBLE way bawl
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Reply #42 posted 04/21/05 3:30am

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wow.... ok, i had to take a moment to get myself together...

first, let me say, you are incredible !!!!! youre outlook and your ability to understand another persons feelings is nothing but positive hug it sounds to me like your adoptive mother did the very best thing for you by explaining it all to you young, that way, theres no chance for you be left to come up with explainations that werent true. god bless your mom for being there to ease your mind right away heart

see, the love of a mother comes in so many ways.... whether she gave birth to you, or brought you home from another woman, the love is there, and it is a gift to have as a child, and also from a mother.... as i said in the orgnote, i can only hope that my child is as well adjusted as you are.... and i do pray that her and i will see each other again someday soon... 18 is right around the corner for us pray i still cry every year.. i still cry every time i hear that song... i still cry at the adoption movies.. i still cry whenever i think of her being sad or alone... my emotions are very real, just without anywhere for them to go...

thank you again sweetheart, and trust me, as a momma, i KNOW she thinks of you and wishes you the very best each and every day hug


Well, basically I just don't see the point in holding bad feelings towards my birth Mother for giving me up for adoption. She did the right thing, as I'm sure you did at that time in your life. Remember that every minute that passes is a minute closer to your goal. I hope you have much to look forward to. hug
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Reply #43 posted 04/21/05 3:33am

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I doubt few parents are able to give up their children easily.


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Reply #44 posted 04/21/05 3:37am

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thanks guys hug

somedays its worse than others... today just seems to be one of those days that im gonna think of her all day sigh i just want to talk to her, tell her why i made this choice - and how much better off she is, i just wasnt ready to be a momma - or so i was told. i want her to know that i think of her everyday... her pictures are all over my house. i have a tattoo of my babies names on it, and her name is on there as well. i just want to hold her and give her a hug, and tell her that yes, its very possible to love someone with all your heart that you dont see everyday, or even see in a lifetime.... because that little girl has a part of my heart that she carries daily.

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my baby will be 16 this july... and the time is comming to see if she will ever want to meet me, or if she just thinks i dont care.... if i ever get the chance to meet her, i will greet her with huge open arms, as will both her brother and sister - we have celebrated her birthday every year now since i can remember, and if you ask them, they will tell you.. she isnt here, but we all love her very much heart

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Such a sad but beautiful story. I'm sorry that you miss your daughter so much. I think its great though that your other children know about her and that you have made such an effort to remember her. I hope that you get to meet soon. It might be hard for both of you at the beginning but I can tell from your post that you love her very much and I'm sure she will see that too.

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Reply #45 posted 04/21/05 3:46am

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I have a friend who is adopted. He is very open about it and clearly doesn't have any hang-ups or issues with it. He talks frankly about his birth parents, in that he has no malice or ill-will towards them. He understands why they did it, simple as that.

I have little experience of the whole adoption thing, I'll be honest, but the impression I get is that adoptive parents are very good at providing an honest and fair view of the birth parents, with no judgement or criticism, so I am sure your baby will not be thinking badly of you.

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Reply #46 posted 04/21/05 7:48am

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LolaM said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

thanks guys hug

somedays its worse than others... today just seems to be one of those days that im gonna think of her all day sigh i just want to talk to her, tell her why i made this choice - and how much better off she is, i just wasnt ready to be a momma - or so i was told. i want her to know that i think of her everyday... her pictures are all over my house. i have a tattoo of my babies names on it, and her name is on there as well. i just want to hold her and give her a hug, and tell her that yes, its very possible to love someone with all your heart that you dont see everyday, or even see in a lifetime.... because that little girl has a part of my heart that she carries daily.

sad

my baby will be 16 this july... and the time is comming to see if she will ever want to meet me, or if she just thinks i dont care.... if i ever get the chance to meet her, i will greet her with huge open arms, as will both her brother and sister - we have celebrated her birthday every year now since i can remember, and if you ask them, they will tell you.. she isnt here, but we all love her very much heart

sigh


Such a sad but beautiful story. I'm sorry that you miss your daughter so much. I think its great though that your other children know about her and that you have made such an effort to remember her. I hope that you get to meet soon. It might be hard for both of you at the beginning but I can tell from your post that you love her very much and I'm sure she will see that too.

I don't really understnd what you're going through. All I can do is hug
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Reply #47 posted 04/21/05 7:51am

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Cloudbuster said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

wow.... ok, i had to take a moment to get myself together...

first, let me say, you are incredible !!!!! youre outlook and your ability to understand another persons feelings is nothing but positive hug it sounds to me like your adoptive mother did the very best thing for you by explaining it all to you young, that way, theres no chance for you be left to come up with explainations that werent true. god bless your mom for being there to ease your mind right away heart

see, the love of a mother comes in so many ways.... whether she gave birth to you, or brought you home from another woman, the love is there, and it is a gift to have as a child, and also from a mother.... as i said in the orgnote, i can only hope that my child is as well adjusted as you are.... and i do pray that her and i will see each other again someday soon... 18 is right around the corner for us pray i still cry every year.. i still cry every time i hear that song... i still cry at the adoption movies.. i still cry whenever i think of her being sad or alone... my emotions are very real, just without anywhere for them to go...

thank you again sweetheart, and trust me, as a momma, i KNOW she thinks of you and wishes you the very best each and every day hug


Well, basically I just don't see the point in holding bad feelings towards my birth Mother for giving me up for adoption. She did the right thing, as I'm sure you did at that time in your life. Remember that every minute that passes is a minute closer to your goal. I hope you have much to look forward to. hug

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Reply #48 posted 04/21/05 7:59am

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I have a friend who is adopted. He is very open about it and clearly doesn't have any hang-ups or issues with it. He talks frankly about his birth parents, in that he has no malice or ill-will towards them. He understands why they did it, simple as that.

I have little experience of the whole adoption thing, I'll be honest, but the impression I get is that adoptive parents are very good at providing an honest and fair view of the birth parents, with no judgement or criticism, so I am sure your baby will not be thinking badly of you.

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this was my mothers first grandbaby, and i dont think she really expected to feel the way she did - she was there with me in the labor room, and there with me when she was born holding my hand .... and as she always has been - there for me in every way a mother can be. she had called them when i went into labor, and told them it was time, they drove long distance to get there, and when they did, i told them i just couldnt do it... that i was so sorry, but, i just couldnt do it sad but, then i thought about everything they had to offer her, and everything i didnt sigh and sooooo many thoughts about her life and what i wanted her to be, the choice had to be made. my mom and i talked through tears and a lot of emotions on both sides, we agreed that if it were ANY other set of parents, we would never do this... but they seemed so perfect - the thought process is one that i can never tell you how it really happened, and i can never tell you how laying in that hospital bed, holding that baby when the knock on the door came then seeing them and knowing that the whole thing was over.... there are no words.... no words.....


i'll just say im glad that there are parents out there that explain that the birthmothers TRUELY loved their child, and thats WHY they were able to give them up. ok, truely, im crying now... i have to stop talking about this grouphug thanks guys, heart to all.....
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Reply #49 posted 04/21/05 3:18pm

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Tish4 said:

I'm adopted. And to tell you the truth, I don't want this to sound like I am insensitive or anything, but I don't care where my biological parents are at this point in my life. I'm doing fine without them, and am happy that they tried/succeeded to give me something they couldn't. I have no problem with it, but I personally don't like to tell people that I am. Not that I'm ashamed but because I just don't want them to know. But since your not just any person, I'm telling you kiss2

wow.... ok, i accept your answer, and i thank you for your honesty hug

it hurts me to know that this is a very real thing that i may have to deal with... just the fact that she wont want to see/meet/know/love me .... its waaaaay more than i can deal with thinking about sad

im glad that you are doing well in life rose and i hope the best for you...




Thank you hug I hope everything goes well with you also. I know it must be painful knowing that you gave up something that you might have wanted to keep later on in life. But going through this now means that it will make you stronger in the future. So keep ya head up and know that your child is in safe arms and don't worry about them because they are fine. Who knows? They probably will com lookin' for you smile Stay strong hug



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Reply #50 posted 04/21/05 6:07pm

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Tish4 said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


wow.... ok, i accept your answer, and i thank you for your honesty hug

it hurts me to know that this is a very real thing that i may have to deal with... just the fact that she wont want to see/meet/know/love me .... its waaaaay more than i can deal with thinking about sad

im glad that you are doing well in life rose and i hope the best for you...




Thank you hug I hope everything goes well with you also. I know it must be painful knowing that you gave up something that you might have wanted to keep later on in life. But going through this now means that it will make you stronger in the future. So keep ya head up and know that your child is in safe arms and don't worry about them because they are fine. Who knows? They probably will com lookin' for you smile Stay strong hug



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