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Reply #30 posted 04/14/05 3:07am

FamousBluRainc
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TheFrog said:

Yeah, excuse the spelling. wink

Not all are so lucky, unfortunately. I have taught several and have a cousin with the syndrome and, bless them all, but i can't see them starting multi-national corporations.

Though all have wonderful talents in other areas.


People with this syndrome can do a lot, but not everything. Obviously they need help with some of the more banal details of life that interest them not one whit... and they can't be expected to be overly "social." Have to accept their eccentricity.
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Reply #31 posted 04/14/05 3:12am

Gold319

Gold319 said:

starbass said:



The future is what you make it you stupid woman, sitting around on your computer all day spouting venon is hardly what I would call a future.

I am so pleased you are encouraging your son in his life, what it must be like to have a mother as bitter as you, no wonder he has special needs...a loving mother who is encouraging and positive for him..too much to ask isn't it.


My son has special needs because of the stupid fucked up NHS!! They didnt bother 2 do the job they are paid for and run tests 2 find out whether I could give birth normally or not!! Me and my baby almost died in the delivery room thanks 2 them!!! One of the causes of ADHD is a traumatic birth and that was caused cos they didnt bother 2 check 2 see if I could give birth normally or had 2 have a C-Section!! In the end I had 2 have an emergency Cesearean when it was almost 2 late!!

If this was the USA, I could have sued the NHS for millions and won!!!

In the USA, they do extensive tests on pregnant women 2 find out if they can give birth by normal means or through C-Sections!! Here they dont do shit!!!


I cant wait 2 visit this hospital!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

http://www.bannerhealth.c...c+greeley/

Look how beautiful it is compared 2 the hellholes they call hospitals here!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
I would think up of any excuse and fake any illness just 2 visit that hospital!! LOL
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Reply #32 posted 04/14/05 3:23am

TheFrog

FamousBluRaincoat said:

TheFrog said:

Yeah, excuse the spelling. wink

Not all are so lucky, unfortunately. I have taught several and have a cousin with the syndrome and, bless them all, but i can't see them starting multi-national corporations.

Though all have wonderful talents in other areas.


People with this syndrome can do a lot, but not everything. Obviously they need help with some of the more banal details of life that interest them not one whit... and they can't be expected to be overly "social." Have to accept their eccentricity.


i guess it may be a matter of degree. hmmm i remember teaching twins who had a phenomenal artistic talent (in the sense of painting / drawing) but who really struggled to learn anything else at all. And social interaction was next to impossible for them (although occasionally they'd show you spontaneous signs of total affection. touched). But i suppose they may have suffered quite severely.

i should check up on how they're doing, because they were great kids. love
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Reply #33 posted 04/14/05 3:24am

TheFrog

Gold319 said:

Gold319 said:



My son has special needs because of the stupid fucked up NHS!! They didnt bother 2 do the job they are paid for and run tests 2 find out whether I could give birth normally or not!! Me and my baby almost died in the delivery room thanks 2 them!!! One of the causes of ADHD is a traumatic birth and that was caused cos they didnt bother 2 check 2 see if I could give birth normally or had 2 have a C-Section!! In the end I had 2 have an emergency Cesearean when it was almost 2 late!!

If this was the USA, I could have sued the NHS for millions and won!!!

In the USA, they do extensive tests on pregnant women 2 find out if they can give birth by normal means or through C-Sections!! Here they dont do shit!!!


I cant wait 2 visit this hospital!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

http://www.bannerhealth.c...c+greeley/

Look how beautiful it is compared 2 the hellholes they call hospitals here!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Yeah, fuck the NHS with its unbelievably just and wonderful "free on demand" service.

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Reply #34 posted 04/14/05 3:35am

Gold319

Thats the trouble!! The NHS is TOO free on demand!! Thats why its so bogged down and overloaded and understaffed, etc.!! They should start charging for treatment, then it would make people ascertain whether their illness or complaint is REALLY necessary and could b treated at home or not!!

Once we were at the A & E Dept here because my husband had a diabetic reaction and we had 2 wait literally HOURS, cos they were constantly seeing 2 kids with small cuts whose parents rushed them 2 the A & E, just as a way of giving them attention!!!!! I would have kicked them out and told them in no uncertain terms not 2 waste doctors precious time that he could spend seeing 2 people who REALLY needed help!!!!
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Reply #35 posted 04/14/05 3:38am

TheFrog

Gold319 said:

Thats the trouble!! The NHS is TOO free on demand!! Thats why its so bogged down and overloaded and understaffed, etc.!! They should start charging for treatment, then it would make people ascertain whether their illness or complaint is REALLY necessary and could b treated at home or not!!

Once we were at the A & E Dept here because my husband had a diabetic reaction and we had 2 wait literally HOURS, cos they were constantly seeing 2 kids with small cuts whose parents rushed them 2 the A & E, just as a way of giving them attention!!!!! I would have kicked them out and told them in no uncertain terms not 2 waste doctors precious time that he could spend seeing 2 people who REALLY needed help!!!!


A&E doctors prioritise everything that comes in.

If your husband's reaction was more serious than the childrens' injuries, he would have been seen first.

Simple as that.

You're deluding yourself. And i'm deluding myself talking to you, because your brain is as open to new ideas as a Chastity Belt is open to cock.

So i can't be bothered.

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Reply #36 posted 04/14/05 3:46am

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Gold319 said:

Thats the trouble!! The NHS is TOO free on demand!! Thats why its so bogged down and overloaded and understaffed, etc.!! They should start charging for treatment, then it would make people ascertain whether their illness or complaint is REALLY necessary and could b treated at home or not!!

Once we were at the A & E Dept here because my husband had a diabetic reaction and we had 2 wait literally HOURS, cos they were constantly seeing 2 kids with small cuts whose parents rushed them 2 the A & E, just as a way of giving them attention!!!!! I would have kicked them out and told them in no uncertain terms not 2 waste doctors precious time that he could spend seeing 2 people who REALLY needed help!!!!


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Reply #37 posted 04/14/05 3:55am

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Gold319 said:

starbass said:



The future is what you make it you stupid woman, sitting around on your computer all day spouting venon is hardly what I would call a future.

I am so pleased you are encouraging your son in his life, what it must be like to have a mother as bitter as you, no wonder he has special needs...a loving mother who is encouraging and positive for him..too much to ask isn't it.


My son has special needs because of the stupid fucked up NHS!! They didnt bother 2 do the job they are paid for and run tests 2 find out whether I could give birth normally or not!! Me and my baby almost died in the delivery room thanks 2 them!!! One of the causes of ADHD is a traumatic birth and that was caused cos they didnt bother 2 check 2 see if I could give birth normally or had 2 have a C-Section!! In the end I had 2 have an emergency Cesearean when it was almost 2 late!!

If this was the USA, I could have sued the NHS for millions and won!!!

In the USA, they do extensive tests on pregnant women 2 find out if they can give birth by normal means or through C-Sections!! Here they dont do shit!!!



WHY WHY WHY do you constantly think about YOURSELF and what SOMEONE ELSE can do for you, why DONT YOU DO SOMETHING NICE FOR SOMEONE ELSE INSTEAD OF BEING SO DAMN SELFISH, YOU ARE NOT OWED ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD AND YOU HAVE TO EARN RESPECT WHICH IS WHY MOST ON HERE WILL NOT GIVE YOU ANY

WHY WHY WHY is money constantly in your conversations???
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Reply #38 posted 04/14/05 5:35am

xOSphere

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Gold319 said:

Well if my husband wants 2 return back home, they cant keep the rest of his family here!! And anyway, my son is also a Dual National so he holds a US Passport, so he can come and go as he pleases as well!! So can I!!


Hey i dont want to scare you... but
Acutally you are WRONG on this - and i can prove it!!!
They CAN stop you returning to the US despite you having an american husband and a son with dual nationality.
You had better check a few things out before you decide to go jumping on a plane back to the US. (if you can ever afford the airfare back)
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Reply #39 posted 04/14/05 5:39am

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Gold319 said:


I met an American guy at the US Embassy yesterday and he said we are doing the best thing by returning back!! He could see that this country is going down the shitpan and he said that the economy in the USA is growing by leaps and bounds now after 9/11!!


Is this the same guy you husband met at the job centre who said this? Sounds like it to me lol Anyone who says the country is going down the "shitpan" proves what a moron devoid of any truly decent vocabulary to speak of, they really are without having to say anything else. I hope its not Starbass following you round telling you what you want to hear just so you F OFF back to the USA lol
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Reply #40 posted 04/14/05 5:40am

xOSphere

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TheFrog said:

I love America.

But I have to disagree (surprise, surprise) with you Gold. The American Embassy in London is a horrible building. I think it's utterly revolting in its architecture.

It's one of the least impressive buildings in the country, if not the world.



IT IS - its AWFUL - GOD AWFUL!!!!
wasnt it a converted 1970's nuclear bunker before it was the embassy?
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Reply #41 posted 04/14/05 5:45am

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starbass said:

Gold319 said:

Well if my husband wants 2 return back home, they cant keep the rest of his family here!! And anyway, my son is also a Dual National so he holds a US Passport, so he can come and go as he pleases as well!! So can I!!

It feels good 2 know that u can b this free!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin


Yes you will soon be returning to the land of obesity...you will fit in well


Gosh! lol
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Reply #42 posted 04/14/05 5:46am

Cloudbuster

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TheFrog said:

You're deluding yourself. And i'm deluding myself talking to you, because your brain is as open to new ideas as a Chastity Belt is open to cock.


lol
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Reply #43 posted 04/14/05 5:59am

xOSphere

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Gold319 said:[quote]

starbass said:



The future is what you make it you stupid woman, sitting around on your computer all day spouting venon is hardly what I would call a future.

I am so pleased you are encouraging your son in his life, what it must be like to have a mother as bitter as you, no wonder he has special needs...a loving mother who is encouraging and positive for him..too much to ask isn't it.



My son has special needs because of the stupid fucked up NHS!! They didnt bother 2 do the job they are paid for and run tests 2 find out whether I could give birth normally or not!! Me and my baby almost died in the delivery room thanks 2 them!!! One of the causes of ADHD is a traumatic birth and that was caused cos they didnt bother 2 check 2 see if I could give birth normally or had 2 have a C-Section!! In the end I had 2 have an emergency Cesearean when it was almost 2 late!!




And the US health service is perfect?? - ask the poor Gibb family and im sure they would tell you (amongst millions of other citizens) that it isnt. I'm sure you remember.

Dateline 01/12/03

Maurice Gibb, part of the highly successful Pop group, the “Bee Gees”, has died after undergoing abdominal surgery at a Miami hospital. The 53 year-old-musician collapsed at his home this past Wednesday and was taken to Mount Sinai Medical Center. There, he was operated on for an intestinal blockage and also suffered cardiac arrest prior to the surgery beginning.

And what about the millions who can't afford to have insurance? - i think you will be one of those when you go back to the USA.


If this was the USA, I could have sued the NHS for millions and won!!!




Now we get down to it - you dont care about your son - its all about making some cash - jeeeez you are selfish.

You know its the ability to be able to sue your fellow citizen at will (as well as being able to assemble your own personal armoury)that made america great - long may it continue.... and Now ladies and gentlemen please rise and remove your caps once more as we sing God Bless America....




"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. "

God Bless America,
Land that I love.
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America, My home sweet home.


Now lets go sue some poor B@$t@rd!!!! YEEEEE HAAAAAR
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Reply #44 posted 04/14/05 6:16am

p0pRocks

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I'm sorry but your sweeping statements have annoyed me, and are not backed up by any facts whatsoever

the causes of the disorders your son have are widely desputed and some claim they are genetics this doesn't mean i think you are wrong but you can't blame someone else for everything that ever goes wrong

crap just happens sometimes, nobodys fault things just don't work out the way we think


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nd_origins
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/me...%20factors


Again i am not saying i know the answers just pointing out neither do you so maybe you should stop pointing the finger hug

oh and the NHS is free for a reason look up UK before it was introduced we do have private hospitals here if you prefer to pay
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Reply #45 posted 04/14/05 6:17am

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xOSphere said:

TheFrog said:

I love America.

But I have to disagree (surprise, surprise) with you Gold. The American Embassy in London is a horrible building. I think it's utterly revolting in its architecture.

It's one of the least impressive buildings in the country, if not the world.



IT IS - its AWFUL - GOD AWFUL!!!!
wasnt it a converted 1970's nuclear bunker before it was the embassy?


Well you have to understand this is Gold319's idea of taste...I mean you saw how that flat of her's is decorated...tasteful it is not!!!
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Reply #46 posted 04/14/05 6:30am

xOSphere

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p0pRocks said:

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I'm sorry but your sweeping statements have annoyed me, and are not backed up by any facts whatsoever

the causes of the disorders your son have are widely desputed and some claim they are genetics this doesn't mean i think you are wrong but you can't blame someone else for everything that ever goes wrong

crap just happens sometimes, nobodys fault things just don't work out the way we think


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nd_origins
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/me...%20factors


Again i am not saying i know the answers just pointing out neither do you so maybe you should stop pointing the finger hug

oh and the NHS is free for a reason look up UK before it was introduced we do have private hospitals here if you prefer to pay



Excellent!!! I looked at one of the links and found this...

the lack of theory of mind, and the Pre-operational autism theory, which states that autistic people are those who get neurologically stuck at the pre-operational stage of cognitive development, where much of information processing is at a holistic-visual level and is largely musical and non-verbal.

This is you isnt it Gold319

Largely musical, non-verbal (you've admitted this - youre quiet when you "flesh-meet" people!!) YOU ARE AUTISTIC!!!! lol
So its not the NHS' fault - its YOURS!!!!
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Reply #47 posted 04/14/05 6:34am

p0pRocks

xOSphere said:

p0pRocks said:

smile


I'm sorry but your sweeping statements have annoyed me, and are not backed up by any facts whatsoever

the causes of the disorders your son have are widely desputed and some claim they are genetics this doesn't mean i think you are wrong but you can't blame someone else for everything that ever goes wrong

crap just happens sometimes, nobodys fault things just don't work out the way we think


http://en.wikipedia.org/w...nd_origins
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/me...%20factors


Again i am not saying i know the answers just pointing out neither do you so maybe you should stop pointing the finger hug

oh and the NHS is free for a reason look up UK before it was introduced we do have private hospitals here if you prefer to pay



Excellent!!! I looked at one of the links and found this...

the lack of theory of mind, and the Pre-operational autism theory, which states that autistic people are those who get neurologically stuck at the pre-operational stage of cognitive development, where much of information processing is at a holistic-visual level and is largely musical and non-verbal.

This is you isnt it Gold319

Largely musical, non-verbal (you've admitted this - youre quiet when you "flesh-meet" people!!) YOU ARE AUTISTIC!!!! lol
So its not the NHS' fault - its YOURS!!!!


I totally think you missed my point and by posting that crap you are as bad as she is



sigh

pointing fingers yet again


*goes back to primary school~ no its not me it's you,

no you caused it

it wasn't me it was him

bawl

rolleyes
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Reply #48 posted 04/14/05 6:42am

xOSphere

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p0pRocks said:

xOSphere said:




Excellent!!! I looked at one of the links and found this...

the lack of theory of mind, and the Pre-operational autism theory, which states that autistic people are those who get neurologically stuck at the pre-operational stage of cognitive development, where much of information processing is at a holistic-visual level and is largely musical and non-verbal.

This is you isnt it Gold319

Largely musical, non-verbal (you've admitted this - youre quiet when you "flesh-meet" people!!) YOU ARE AUTISTIC!!!! lol
So its not the NHS' fault - its YOURS!!!!


I totally think you missed my point and by posting that crap you are as bad as she is



sigh

pointing fingers yet again


*goes back to primary school~ no its not me it's you,

no you caused it

it wasn't me it was him

bawl

rolleyes


Yeah i am - what can i say lol
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Reply #49 posted 04/14/05 6:43am

p0pRocks

xOSphere said:

p0pRocks said:



I totally think you missed my point and by posting that crap you are as bad as she is



sigh

pointing fingers yet again


*goes back to primary school~ no its not me it's you,

no you caused it

it wasn't me it was him

bawl

rolleyes


Yeah i am - what can i say lol


hmmm

well at least you are honest shrug smile
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Reply #50 posted 04/14/05 7:24am

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p0pRocks said:

xOSphere said:



Yeah i am - what can i say lol


hmmm

well at least you are honest shrug smile


That - i am!!

and on a more serious note - and to make ammends i am posting this with the aim
of helping poor much-aligned Gold319 (and Starbass too) as a free information service which if she checks she will find is correct. I'm assuming she is a permanant resident (green card holder) not a Citizen - she has never said she is! so this should be correct for her situation.




I hope she has her affairs in order
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Reply #51 posted 04/14/05 7:37am

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xOSphere said:

p0pRocks said:



hmmm

well at least you are honest shrug smile


That - i am!!

and on a more serious note - and to make ammends i am posting this with the aim
of helping poor much-aligned Gold319 (and Starbass too) as a free information service which if she checks she will find is correct. I'm assuming she is a permanant resident (green card holder) not a Citizen - she has never said she is! so this should be correct for her situation.


I hope she has her affairs in order


Don't be silly, that doesn't affect Gold, she is far too important to pay those taxes she is always moaning about !!!!
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Reply #52 posted 04/14/05 7:55am

Gold319

I am indeed re-applying again for my Green Card!! We have reems and reems of forms here 2 fill out again in order 2 obtain my Green Card!!!! I cant just enter the USA at my will!!

Now, regarding other topics:

I am sorry my flat is not according to YOUR tastes

The Gibb family has a history of heart problems!!! Their dad died of Heart failure, their younger brother, Andy also died WAY BEFORE HIS TIME of a heart attack and the latest victim of this HEREDITARY problem was Maurice!! So u cant blame a familys HEREDITARY illness on the US Health system!!!! Also U cant blame the US health system on one of the causes of this which is smoking and drug use!! For that u have 2 blame each individual for starting that God awful habit in the first place!!

Also regarding ADHD and Tourettes and Asperges Syndrome!! I did say that ONE of the causes was a traumatic birth!! In fact, and I will admit this with all humility, that I 2 suffer from ADHD, although it has never been officially diagnosed, but I do have all the symptoms, which is one reason why I am scared 2 go out 2 work in case I get let go as soon as I start it, cos one of the symptoms of this illness is that the sufferer can never seem 2 hold down a job no matter how hard the person tries, for some unknown reason!!

Enough said!!!
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Reply #53 posted 04/14/05 7:59am

SomeoneElse

Gold319 said:

They have 2!! I am married 2 an American!! They cant deny me!!!

Actually it's not true.
Laws have changed, and marriage to an American does not automatically let you in the US. They have to aprove you first.
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Reply #54 posted 04/14/05 8:01am

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Gold319 said:

I am indeed re-applying again for my Green Card!! We have reems and reems of forms here 2 fill out again in order 2 obtain my Green Card!!!! I cant just enter the USA at my will!!

Now, regarding other topics:

I am sorry my flat is not according to YOUR tastes

The Gibb family has a history of heart problems!!! Their dad died of Heart failure, their younger brother, Andy also died WAY BEFORE HIS TIME of a heart attack and the latest victim of this HEREDITARY problem was Maurice!! So u cant blame a familys HEREDITARY illness on the US Health system!!!! Also U cant blame the US health system on one of the causes of this which is smoking and drug use!! For that u have 2 blame each individual for starting that God awful habit in the first place!!

Also regarding ADHD and Tourettes and Asperges Syndrome!! I did say that ONE of the causes was a traumatic birth!! In fact, and I will admit this with all humility, that I 2 suffer from ADHD, although it has never been officially diagnosed, but I do have all the symptoms, which is one reason why I am scared 2 go out 2 work in case I get let go as soon as I start it, cos one of the symptoms of this illness is that the sufferer can never seem 2 hold down a job no matter how hard the person tries, for some unknown reason!!

Enough said!!!


Isn't that just pure lazyness?
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Reply #55 posted 04/14/05 8:05am

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Gold319 said:

I am indeed re-applying again for my Green Card!! We have reems and reems of forms here 2 fill out again in order 2 obtain my Green Card!!!! I cant just enter the USA at my will!!

Enough said!!!


is it me - or did she say earlier in the thread


They have 2!! I am married 2 an American!! They cant deny me!!!


Oh yes they can!!!!!

You also said


...I consider myself an adopted American!!


Did you adopt them or did they adopt you? I think i know
the answer to this - the americans i know would never adopt
you. lol

Plus the fact that you consider yourself and adopted American wont
grant your entry back to the US.

I'm sure thats what most wet backs say when they arrive at the US border
- "But I consider myself an adopted American!!"

- "OK friend - thats all we needed to know - enter adopted american and welcome to the United States"


You should tell them this at your interview too. "But I consider myself an adopted American!!" see what they say!

So if youre applying for your green card again you know you have to go through a thorough medical and they test you for a whole load of different conditions!!!
I would keep all your revelations about your health on here a secret!!!
wink
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Reply #56 posted 04/14/05 8:10am

Heiress

This all makes me kind of glad that my French husband doesn't want to come to the US, just because he's married to an American...
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Reply #57 posted 04/14/05 8:34am

Gold319

Your are right!! They CAN deny u entrance if after they have done their background checks on u they find that u have a criminal history or belong 2 any adverse Organisation, political or otherwise or have Terrorist connections of any kind!!
Also they can deny u if, after their medical examinations they find that u carry any suspect or life threatening disease like TB, malaria or any STDs like AIDS or u have non-prescription drugs in your system!!

And for all this I can proudly declare myself NOT GUILTY, I AM INNOCENT!!!
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Reply #58 posted 04/14/05 11:28am

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xOSphere said:

TheFrog said:

I love America.

But I have to disagree (surprise, surprise) with you Gold. The American Embassy in London is a horrible building. I think it's utterly revolting in its architecture.

It's one of the least impressive buildings in the country, if not the world.



IT IS - its AWFUL - GOD AWFUL!!!!
wasnt it a converted 1970's nuclear bunker before it was the embassy?


Is it this one? Can anyone post better pictures?

Architect here wave and it looks an example of very good mid-XXth Century Architecture.
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Reply #59 posted 04/14/05 12:04pm

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PANDURITO said:

xOSphere said:




IT IS - its AWFUL - GOD AWFUL!!!!
wasnt it a converted 1970's nuclear bunker before it was the embassy?


Is it this one? Can anyone post better pictures?

Architect here wave and it looks an example of very good mid-XXth Century Architecture.


Oh it's so beautiful, it really knocks spots off St Pauls Cathedral, Buckingham Palance, Houses Of Parliament..I am SO jealous you managed to get inside such a stunning piece of architecture...!!
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