I never thought I would say this but DAMN IT...Make them STOP. I don't want to birth no mo babies so I'm ready to end this NOW!!!


But are HOT flashes any better!!!

Me too!

i dunno ... i have a whole new perspective about women and bleeding since i studied the old native ways and the concept of the honor they had for it

we have a small group of women that still practice moon lodges here... so it has been a wonderful experience for my daughter and I

but i DO understand where you are comming from

did someone say MENSSES???

LOL @ "moon lodging" Sounds kinky

Have you ever considered managing it?
I've recently gone on birth control where I will only get my period 4 times a year. I tend to get PMS pretty badly (depression-wise) so my doctor suggested doing this so I'll only get PMS a few times a year vs. once a month.

CarrieMpls said:

You know what is awful and I really shouldn't complain but I don't have any problems with them other than I'm tired of it. I've never had cramps or any of that stuff although, as you stated, depression has been an issue for me as well.

Mach: I understand the whole wonderful vibe about it but damn!!!


and I have no idea what moon lodging is?

Machaela said:

That would be cool, BUT:

In the past, before women could control their fertility, women's bodies were pregnant far more often than they are now. Thus, they didn't have their periods nearly as often as we do now, cuz they were either pregnant or breastfeeding exclusively. So a woman having her period back then, well, there was a reason to treat it with honor, etc., even though she was considered "unclean", thus sent away from her family until it was over.

CarrieMpls said:

A very safe and totally wonderful thing!!

Our rates of ovarian and uterine cancer have risen steadily, because we're having too many periods. Our bodies weren't meant to build up uterine lining or release eggs every month (Mother Nature thought we'd be pregnant more often and not be doing these things so much!).

The Moonlodge was a Sacred Place for women to gather during their Sacred Time. That was when we connected to Moon and Earth, Grandmother and Mother, and to each other. We were welcomed back into our communities, which eagerly awaited our return, to hear the wisdom we had gained.

In these modern, changing times, women are reconnecting with and recreating the Moonlodge Ceremonies. We are discovering our voices and our inherent role as Wisdom Keepers.


women in these times were NOT thought of as unclean ... that came with the christian teachings ...

Most, if not all traditions of Native American spirituality hold moon-time as a sacred time of purification during which women do not go into ceremony or use sacred objects such as pipes and feathers. Often people from Western culture see this as a disrespectful and negative stereotyping of a woman’s menstrual cycle. We traditional people do not see it this way, as moon-time is a place of honor and beauty.


A long time ago, women did as they do now—they held the family, they held the power (life-force) for the family, they held the happiness and joy, they held the sorrow and disappointments. After time, the negative emotions and heartache that the women took upon themselves on behalf of their families would begin to weigh them down. The women would become sick and finally, could no longer take on the burdens of the family. Yet the nature to do so had been imbued into them by Creator.

One day, a woman was out in the forest, crying because the burden had become so great, when Raven heard her and asked, "Mother, why do you cry?"

The woman responded, "I love my family so very much. I hold my family in my heart and soul, but the pains of life have filled me up. I can no longer help my family. I can no longer take their burdens from them. I just don't know what to do."

Raven responded, "I understand the pain you feel, as I feel it also. I will go and ask Grandmother Ocean if she knows what to do." So Raven flew to the ocean and shared with Grandmother the plight of the women.

Grandmother Ocean responded, "If the women will come to me, I will wash their pain from them, but this won't help the ones who are far away. Let me ask my sister, Grandmother Moon, if she can help."

So Grandmother Ocean spoke to her sister of the women's plight. Grandmother Moon responded, "I am the power of the feminine. I will send into the women, my sisters, your waters carrying my power. Once every moon cycle, you shall come into the women through me and purify them." And, she did this. So ever since then, every woman has a time each moon cycle when she embodies the power of the moon and flows the cleansing of the ocean. We call this the woman's time of the moon, or moon-time.

It is each woman's responsibility to take the time when she is in her time of the moon to purify. It is the responsibility of the men to give the women the opportunity to do so. Unfortunately these days, the men generally do not allow this opportunity. It used to be that women could have a "headache" and tell the men to leave them alone. Of course, in some traditions, there was a formal arrangement set up where the women could get away from the men to a moon lodge. But, people have tried to make women into men. Some women say, "We are strong, we can do anything during our periods". So, now we have PMS!

One has to understand the fundamental nature of power. With power, the lesser inherently flows to the greater. Therefore, when a woman is embodying the moon, she is embodying a huge reservoir of power—all that is contained within her sister, Grandmother Moon. This means that lesser amounts of power around her will inherently flow into her. That would include power charged with negative emotion. This can make a woman sick. Suddenly that "headache" is very real. Those cramps are but the negative emotions that surround a woman through whomever she comes in contact with.

So, what can a woman do while in her moon-time? First, she can be conscious. She can set her intention such that she does not take into herself anything from anyone (yes, this takes practice). She will refrain from getting into unsettling discussions or being around upset people any more than absolutely necessary. She will not allow negativity to flow into herself from others. For, while power will inherently flow from lesser to greater, one’s intent can always control that. Second, each day, she can go outside and sit with the moon for a time, asking for assistance and giving thanks for the purification being given. Third, she will not participate in ceremonies at that time. Ceremony is about creating, about outward energy. A woman in her moon-time is about purifying, about inward prayer.

There's no good reason why I should be on this thread.

Fauxie said:

unless you're on the rag.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

That sentence combined with that emoticon disturbs me somewhat.

I stay so cold, I look forward to hot flashes

I can't get out of this thread!

Somebody???