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Reply #30 posted 04/01/05 11:48am

gemini13

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i don't, most of the time.



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Reply #31 posted 04/01/05 11:51am

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I care what happens to people in under-developed countries, but I don't really care too much about the Shiavo case. Not to sound heartless, but to me, all the media attention was for political and religious gain and I have no time for shit like that. I feel sorry for the woman that she had to spend the best years of her life in that state, but I don't know her personally, so I'm not overly upset by her death. I won't be upset when the Pope dies either, although I do respect the man for his dedication.

Yes, I did send money to the Red Cross for the Tsunami victims and I also send money each year to an orphange in South Afica. I don't give to people pan-handling on the streets, but I do give to many charities in my city.
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Reply #32 posted 04/01/05 11:54am

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kisscamille said:

I care what happens to people in under-developed countries, but I don't really care too much about the Shiavo case. Not to sound heartless, but to me, all the media attention was for political and religious gain and I have no time for shit like that. I feel sorry for the woman that she had to spend the best years of her life in that state, but I don't know her personally, so I'm not overly upset by her death. I won't be upset when the Pope dies either, although I do respect the man for his dedication.

Yes, I did send money to the Red Cross for the Tsunami victims and I also send money each year to an orphange in South Afica. I don't give to people pan-handling on the streets, but I do give to many charities in my city.


I appreciate the genuine energy of you and those that go out of their way to make a difference.

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Reply #33 posted 04/01/05 12:55pm

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well dex, i guess its just part of my personality, but, YES without a doubt i care about anyone who dies... sometime i wish i wasnt so open to the emotions that i feel shrug but i always have been. EVERY SINGLE TIME an ambulance goes by, or a fire truck, i say to myself - and sometimes outloud - i hope everyone is ok.. now, i find that my 10 year old son says it sometimes before i do. which i think is a GREAT thing... in a world of heartless, cold people.. i feel very positive about saying that i DO care, and my heart hurts for those around me in pain, thats those dying AND their families as well. and if you remember, i was VERY supportive to you during your time of loss, and i genuinely hurt for you. i didnt not know your father, though im sure he was a wonderful man and taught you many wonderful things, it hurt me to know that you were hurt. so, again, yes, my answer is still YES !!! i hurt behind the ending of anyones life... and i do say small prayers for all of them, even the ones i didnt have the opportunity to get to know, life is life, and a loss is a loss... they are all sad in my opinion heart
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Reply #34 posted 04/01/05 1:14pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

well dex, i guess its just part of my personality, but, YES without a doubt i care about anyone who dies... sometime i wish i wasnt so open to the emotions that i feel shrug but i always have been. EVERY SINGLE TIME an ambulance goes by, or a fire truck, i say to myself - and sometimes outloud - i hope everyone is ok.. now, i find that my 10 year old son says it sometimes before i do. which i think is a GREAT thing... in a world of heartless, cold people.. i feel very positive about saying that i DO care, and my heart hurts for those around me in pain, thats those dying AND their families as well. and if you remember, i was VERY supportive to you during your time of loss, and i genuinely hurt for you. i didnt not know your father, though im sure he was a wonderful man and taught you many wonderful things, it hurt me to know that you were hurt. so, again, yes, my answer is still YES !!! i hurt behind the ending of anyones life... and i do say small prayers for all of them, even the ones i didnt have the opportunity to get to know, life is life, and a loss is a loss... they are all sad in my opinion heart


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Reply #35 posted 04/01/05 1:23pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

well dex, i guess its just part of my personality, but, YES without a doubt i care about anyone who dies... sometime i wish i wasnt so open to the emotions that i feel shrug but i always have been. EVERY SINGLE TIME an ambulance goes by, or a fire truck, i say to myself - and sometimes outloud - i hope everyone is ok.. now, i find that my 10 year old son says it sometimes before i do. which i think is a GREAT thing... in a world of heartless, cold people.. i feel very positive about saying that i DO care, and my heart hurts for those around me in pain, thats those dying AND their families as well. and if you remember, i was VERY supportive to you during your time of loss, and i genuinely hurt for you. i didnt not know your father, though im sure he was a wonderful man and taught you many wonderful things, it hurt me to know that you were hurt. so, again, yes, my answer is still YES !!! i hurt behind the ending of anyones life... and i do say small prayers for all of them, even the ones i didnt have the opportunity to get to know, life is life, and a loss is a loss... they are all sad in my opinion heart

Thank you for describing my sentiments so eloquently.
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Reply #36 posted 04/01/05 1:26pm

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CoJones said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

well dex, i guess its just part of my personality, but, YES without a doubt i care about anyone who dies... sometime i wish i wasnt so open to the emotions that i feel shrug but i always have been. EVERY SINGLE TIME an ambulance goes by, or a fire truck, i say to myself - and sometimes outloud - i hope everyone is ok.. now, i find that my 10 year old son says it sometimes before i do. which i think is a GREAT thing... in a world of heartless, cold people.. i feel very positive about saying that i DO care, and my heart hurts for those around me in pain, thats those dying AND their families as well. and if you remember, i was VERY supportive to you during your time of loss, and i genuinely hurt for you. i didnt not know your father, though im sure he was a wonderful man and taught you many wonderful things, it hurt me to know that you were hurt. so, again, yes, my answer is still YES !!! i hurt behind the ending of anyones life... and i do say small prayers for all of them, even the ones i didnt have the opportunity to get to know, life is life, and a loss is a loss... they are all sad in my opinion heart

Thank you for describing my sentiments so eloquently.
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awwwww hug thanks and youre welcome heart
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Reply #37 posted 04/01/05 3:37pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

CoJones said:


Thank you for describing my sentiments so eloquently.
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awwwww hug thanks and youre welcome heart


You all are appreciated!

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Reply #38 posted 04/01/05 4:10pm

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Schiavo was made an object by the government and by her "supporters" - many of whom may or may not have felt true compassion, but some of whom surely used her to promote their right-to-life cause. Bush decided to jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of this precious opportunity to seem like he really cared, yet he is a mass murderer. mad

Yes, I am saddened by her death, as I was saddened by Johnny Cochran's death,
and my dog's death, and the deaths of those across the world whom I have never known, and will never know. Every death that I hear about saddens me - it is a loss of a soul, and all our souls are connected - but I also believe that death is beautiful, too, and that the world beyond ours, wherever it may be, is better than this one.

So I trust that Schiavo has found peace and am thankful she's escaped her unfortunate objectification and the exhibition she was subjected to. But just because she is receiving so much attention doesn't mean her death is more sorrowful or poignant than any other death in this world.
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Reply #39 posted 04/01/05 4:14pm

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thescandalouslife said:[quote]Schiavo was made an object by the government and by her "supporters" - many of whom may or may not have felt true compassion, but some of whom surely used her to promote their right-to-life cause. Bush decided to jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of this precious opportunity to seem like he really cared, yet he is a mass murderer. mad

Yes, I am saddened by her death, as I was saddened by Johnny Cochran's death,
and my dog's death, and the deaths of those across the world whom I have never known, and will never know. Every death that I hear about saddens me - it is a loss of a soul, and all our souls are connected - but I also believe that death is beautiful, too, and that the world beyond ours, wherever it may be, is better than this one.
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U must stay sad ALL of the time.
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Reply #40 posted 04/01/05 4:16pm

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GeminiMoon said:[quote]

thescandalouslife said:

Schiavo was made an object by the government and by her "supporters" - many of whom may or may not have felt true compassion, but some of whom surely used her to promote their right-to-life cause. Bush decided to jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of this precious opportunity to seem like he really cared, yet he is a mass murderer. mad

Yes, I am saddened by her death, as I was saddened by Johnny Cochran's death,
and my dog's death, and the deaths of those across the world whom I have never known, and will never know. Every death that I hear about saddens me - it is a loss of a soul, and all our souls are connected - but I also believe that death is beautiful, too, and that the world beyond ours, wherever it may be, is better than this one.
quote]





U must stay sad ALL of the time.


Uh...what???
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Reply #41 posted 04/01/05 4:17pm

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GeminiMoon said:[quote]

thescandalouslife said:

Schiavo was made an object by the government and by her "supporters" - many of whom may or may not have felt true compassion, but some of whom surely used her to promote their right-to-life cause. Bush decided to jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of this precious opportunity to seem like he really cared, yet he is a mass murderer. mad

Yes, I am saddened by her death, as I was saddened by Johnny Cochran's death,
and my dog's death, and the deaths of those across the world whom I have never known, and will never know. Every death that I hear about saddens me - it is a loss of a soul, and all our souls are connected - but I also believe that death is beautiful, too, and that the world beyond ours, wherever it may be, is better than this one.
quote]
U must stay sad ALL of the time.



Every death that I hear about

I don't scan the obituaries, or seek out death notices. I'm just referring to things I hear about on the news, or read about, or whatever. Thanks.
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Reply #42 posted 04/01/05 4:18pm

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thescandalouslife said:[quote]

GeminiMoon said:

thescandalouslife said:

Schiavo was made an object by the government and by her "supporters" - many of whom may or may not have felt true compassion, but some of whom surely used her to promote their right-to-life cause. Bush decided to jump on the bandwagon and take advantage of this precious opportunity to seem like he really cared, yet he is a mass murderer. mad

Yes, I am saddened by her death, as I was saddened by Johnny Cochran's death,
and my dog's death, and the deaths of those across the world whom I have never known, and will never know. Every death that I hear about saddens me - it is a loss of a soul, and all our souls are connected - but I also believe that death is beautiful, too, and that the world beyond ours, wherever it may be, is better than this one.
quote]
U must stay sad ALL of the time.



Every death that I hear about

I don't scan the obituaries, or seek out death notices. I'm just referring to things I hear about on the news, or read about, or whatever. Thanks.



sheep

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Reply #43 posted 04/01/05 4:45pm

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DexMSR said:

thescandalouslife said:




Every death that I hear about

I don't scan the obituaries, or seek out death notices. I'm just referring to things I hear about on the news, or read about, or whatever. Thanks.



sheep

Baaaa-aaa-aaa


What're you talking about, old man? Sit down, you'll exert yourself.
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Reply #44 posted 04/01/05 5:04pm

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thescandalouslife said:

DexMSR said:




sheep

Baaaa-aaa-aaa


What're you talking about, old man? Sit down, you'll exert yourself.


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Reply #45 posted 04/01/05 6:26pm

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ShySlantedEye1 said:

I am sorry for the anguish these families are going through but Bush could have went to bat on some way more important issues than this. This was done just for the sake of publicity on his part. Why didn't he call Congress back in on issues about the war, the crack laws or when thousands of people are loosing their jobs. This was a cop out for the President to improve his rating in the polls.

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Reply #46 posted 04/01/05 7:01pm

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VinnyM27 said:

ShySlantedEye1 said:

I am sorry for the anguish these families are going through but Bush could have went to bat on some way more important issues than this. This was done just for the sake of publicity on his part. Why didn't he call Congress back in on issues about the war, the crack laws or when thousands of people are loosing their jobs. This was a cop out for the President to improve his rating in the polls.

twocents


And it failed misterably!


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Reply #47 posted 04/01/05 8:27pm

roodboi

...Quite honestly, it's always been difficult for me to show alot of concern for people or situations I'm not involved with...the only thing that will bother me to any extent is a dire situation involving children...other than that, I generally could care less...My mom has always said that I have a cold heart, maybe she's right... I know this much is true, I love my family and friends, I would be hard pressed to share any of the true feelings I have for them with someone I don't know...just an example..when Johnny Cochran died..I was shocked...do I hope he rests in peace?? of course, I'm not a total ass...did I shed a tear or say a prayer?? no...haven't lost any sleep over it either...
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Reply #48 posted 04/01/05 8:58pm

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roodboi said:

...Quite honestly, it's always been difficult for me to show alot of concern for people or situations I'm not involved with...the only thing that will bother me to any extent is a dire situation involving children...other than that, I generally could care less...My mom has always said that I have a cold heart, maybe she's right... I know this much is true, I love my family and friends, I would be hard pressed to share any of the true feelings I have for them with someone I don't know...just an example..when Johnny Cochran died..I was shocked...do I hope he rests in peace?? of course, I'm not a total ass...did I shed a tear or say a prayer?? no...haven't lost any sleep over it either...
[Edited 4/1/05 20:33pm]


Exactly!
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Reply #49 posted 04/02/05 9:39pm

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DexMSR said:

Why do you care? Is it because of all the media attention? Did you get this upset at the atrocities in Rwanda years ago or even now in Africa? Did you make your contribution to the Tsunami Relief fund? Do you scan the obituaries and say a "prayer" for all of them? No, you didn't.

So why does this schiavo shit have you all downtrodden and suddenly outspoken and caring? Tell me your stand. And don't think for one moment this thread was created without compassion as I had to pull the plug on my Dad in the very same circumstances. Did any of you care about that? No. So tell me your stance.

And if you are one that is this caring...tell me why?




We are all born knowing that part of life is dying and going through that process... however, the manner by which some have to leave the world is what tugs on heart strings sexy dexy.....

It would be a utopic scenario if we were to all just go to sleep and not wake up, unfortunately, that's not the way the script of life has been penned.

As unique individual's the way we walk through this existence varies.... some can pass by someone dying in the street and not even look back, while others stop to comfort...call for assistance.... show compassion.

The media brings to the forefront some situations and they generate more open outcry (whether pro or con)....it's human nature to debate for justice or injustice alike.... an open forum if you will ... a bonding of sorts (whichever side you happen to be on) and that's human nature

is one more heartwrenching than the other.....not at all... like all else comparisons can be made but devastation on any level is not something most would not crave...

are we any more outraged by the starving of Shiavo than the rape and murder of Jessica Lundsford? perhaps..... or by the sense of loss of Johnny Cochran..... perhaps..... the degree and manitude varies from individual to individual...and yet..... its all societal mourning... smile mourning of the injustice of wanting someone to linger (not so much for them but for we that remain..... ) or the injustice of starving a human being when we are more humane in putting animals to rest..... although on different sides of the fence...it all boils down to compassion and empathy and those voices coming together no matter what side they may take..... are healthy expression and debate is healthy.

As is with most things.....there is more than one perception regardless of the stance.

I never think that feeling (be it love, compassion, contempt for a system that we are forced to abide by irregardless of our individual beliefs, empathy, sympathy....) the fact that you feel and express is never a bad thing.

Do you have to know someone to feel for them or their situation...no love.....do you have to make it personal and internalize it.... well that depends on the person.... is it wrong..... i don't believe so ...it's yet another thing that makes us all different and unique and enables us to learn from one another through dialogue/communication.... as the old cliche' states....."if you don't believe in something...you will fall for anything" and everyone's "something" need not mirror.

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Reply #50 posted 04/02/05 11:04pm

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i [u]do[/] care when any person dies. i care when any life is ended whether it be from natural disaster, illness or by the hands of another. when i hear of some tragedy on the news or word of mouth it upsets me. i can't help its in my nature, i'm just a compassionate person.

am i a religious person?? not really. am i upset that the Pope is dying?? yes.

do i think the horrors that go on daily around the world (war, famine, genocide, racism...etc) are atrocities??? absolutely. i am thankful everyday for being born in Canada, even with its problems and i try and take a moment out of each day to think about those who were not as fortunate as me.

i hope to do more.



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