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Thread started 03/31/05 12:11pm

DexMSR

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If a stranger dies.......

Why do you care? Is it because of all the media attention? Did you get this upset at the atrocities in Rwanda years ago or even now in Africa? Did you make your contribution to the Tsunami Relief fund? Do you scan the obituaries and say a "prayer" for all of them? No, you didn't.

So why does this schiavo shit have you all downtrodden and suddenly outspoken and caring? Tell me your stand. And don't think for one moment this thread was created without compassion as I had to pull the plug on my Dad in the very same circumstances. Did any of you care about that? No. So tell me your stance.

And if you are one that is this caring...tell me why?
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Reply #1 posted 03/31/05 12:17pm

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I am sorry for the anguish these families are going through but Bush could have went to bat on some way more important issues than this. This was done just for the sake of publicity on his part. Why didn't he call Congress back in on issues about the war, the crack laws or when thousands of people are loosing their jobs. This was a cop out for the President to improve his rating in the polls.

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Reply #2 posted 03/31/05 12:21pm

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While I don't care about every single person that dies, I do care about many. I cry over strangers that pass away all the time. I do care about the atrocities in other countries as well. I do so because it is what we are supposed to do.
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Reply #3 posted 03/31/05 12:24pm

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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

While I don't care about every single person that dies, I do care about many. I cry over strangers that pass away all the time. I do care about the atrocities in other countries as well. I do so because it is what we are supposed to do.


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Reply #4 posted 03/31/05 12:42pm

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Sometimes things just strike a nerve in you, ya know? I don't cry at every peron in the obits or on the news that I hear about that has died, often tragically, but I do some. Maybe there's a small detail you can relate to, or maybe its just that time of the month. lol. In fact, I often avoid the news cause it just brings me down too much at times.
The Schaivo thing has brought me more anger than anguish, however. Sure, I can sympathize for the family, but the politics surrounding it has really just pissed me off.
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Reply #5 posted 03/31/05 12:57pm

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CarrieMpls said:

Sometimes things just strike a nerve in you, ya know? I don't cry at every peron in the obits or on the news that I hear about that has died, often tragically, but I do some. Maybe there's a small detail you can relate to, or maybe its just that time of the month. lol. In fact, I often avoid the news cause it just brings me down too much at times.
The Schaivo thing has brought me more anger than anguish, however. Sure, I can sympathize for the family, but the politics surrounding it has really just pissed me off.


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Reply #6 posted 03/31/05 1:02pm

HamsterHuey

CarrieMpls said:

In fact, I often avoid the news cause it just brings me down too much at times.


Emotional spunges, us...
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Reply #7 posted 03/31/05 1:07pm

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I truly do feel bad when a stranger dies, especially if it was a tragic, sensless death. I guess I just have sympathy for people and it makes me thankful that I haven't had to experience things like that.
As for Terri Schiavo - the media circus that turned into was atrocious. It was a private matter between 2 families, not something that the world had to have their nose in.
As for things that happened as in Rwanda? Any kind of social injustice really pisses me off! mad
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Reply #8 posted 03/31/05 1:09pm

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1sexymf said:

I truly do feel bad when a stranger dies, especially if it was a tragic, sensless death. I guess I just have sympathy for people and it makes me thankful that I haven't had to experience things like that.
As for Terri Schiavo - the media circus that turned into was atrocious. It was a private matter between 2 families, not something that the world had to have their nose in.
As for things that happened as in Rwanda? Any kind of social injustice really pisses me off! mad


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Reply #9 posted 03/31/05 1:14pm

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I dont care about every dead or living creature,I dont hold vigils or give to a thousand charities. Media attention does not matter to me.
But my heart does go out to strangers when I hear about certain tragedies. Sometimes I think what if that was my family...how would I handle it?
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Reply #10 posted 03/31/05 1:19pm

lollyp0p

I care

simple as, I feel bad about every single person i hear about who's died, even criminals

I value life as a whole

I don't need to justify those feelings
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Reply #11 posted 03/31/05 1:31pm

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I value life as a whole


That was your justification baby....Whap!

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Reply #12 posted 03/31/05 1:52pm

Anxiety

the fact that there's been no escape from this story has forced me to think about how important it is to piece together a living will, and to share copies of it with everyone i know and make sure they understand my wishes to the letter. the latest issue of 'Time Out Chicago' has a guide to putting together a living will, and i think i'm gonna use that as a starting-off point.

stuff like this, i think it's unhealthy to treat it like a soap opera and take sides and follow all the scandal that tabloid tv digs up...it's better to find a way that the story effects YOU, and take from it what you can. if there's nothing to take from it, it amounts to little more than voyeurism to me. that's not to say i don't feel for the people involved, but sheesh...there are so many people all over the place who are in dire trouble. just because they aren't getting talked about on the news, are they any less worthy of concern?
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Reply #13 posted 03/31/05 1:57pm

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DexMSR said:

I value life as a whole


That was your justification baby....Whap!

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Reply #14 posted 03/31/05 2:34pm

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Anxiety said:

the fact that there's been no escape from this story has forced me to think about how important it is to piece together a living will, and to share copies of it with everyone i know and make sure they understand my wishes to the letter. the latest issue of 'Time Out Chicago' has a guide to putting together a living will, and i think i'm gonna use that as a starting-off point.

stuff like this, i think it's unhealthy to treat it like a soap opera and take sides and follow all the scandal that tabloid tv digs up...it's better to find a way that the story effects YOU, and take from it what you can. if there's nothing to take from it, it amounts to little more than voyeurism to me. that's not to say i don't feel for the people involved, but sheesh...there are so many people all over the place who are in dire trouble. just because they aren't getting talked about on the news, are they any less worthy of concern?


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Reply #15 posted 03/31/05 6:31pm

Mach

simple compassion

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Reply #16 posted 03/31/05 6:40pm

brownsugar

well i can't say it affected me deeply 'cause i've never been in that situation. putting aside the fact that i think they should not have let her live like that, i feel really bad for her parents. as a mother myself i can only imagine the pain they are going through.
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Reply #17 posted 03/31/05 6:44pm

brownsugar

i feel really bad for what is going on in rwanda and what is happening to africa and the kids, sometimes it makes me angry and sad. and if i think about it too much it makes me cry. its a real tragedy that our motherland is being abused the way it is.
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Reply #18 posted 03/31/05 6:58pm

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i don't, most of the time.
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Reply #19 posted 03/31/05 8:09pm

charlottegelin

sad I really get upset when I hear about practically everything, especially if kids are involved.
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Reply #20 posted 03/31/05 8:34pm

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You know what irks me to no end? There have been 145 views to this thread and only what?...19 replies or something. This just tells me how shallow the masses can be! We will jump on the bandwagon and chime in on the issue of Ms. Schiavo, but let me challenge your thinking and delve deeper into your souls and "most" just put their tails in between their legs and leave it alone. I don't care who it is, but the numbers don't lie. Many folks just say and do shit to make them think they are all for the good in the world but they are still just plain sheep that won't or can't take a firm stand on what their soul really feels or represents in the world, or even think for themselves for that matter! Fuck 'em!!!

Carry On!!
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Reply #21 posted 03/31/05 8:36pm

charlottegelin

DexMSR said:

You know what irks me to no end? There have been 145 views to this thread and only what?...19 replies or something. This just tells me how shallow the masses can be! We will jump on the bandwagon and chime in on the issue of Ms. Schiavo, but let me challenge your thinking and delve deeper into your souls and "most" just put their tails in between their legs and leave it alone. I don't care who it is, but the numbers don't lie. Many folks just say and do shit to make them think they are all for the good in the world but they are still just plain sheep that won't or can't take a firm stand on what their soul really feels or represents in the world, or even think for themselves for that matter! Fuck 'em!!!

Carry On!!

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Reply #22 posted 03/31/05 8:36pm

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DexMSR said:

You know what irks me to no end? There have been 145 views to this thread and only what?...19 replies or something. This just tells me how shallow the masses can be!

that, or there simply ain't many folks online tonight. i'm going for the latter. shrug
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Reply #23 posted 03/31/05 8:40pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

DexMSR said:

You know what irks me to no end? There have been 145 views to this thread and only what?...19 replies or something. This just tells me how shallow the masses can be!

that, or there simply ain't many folks online tonight. i'm going for the latter. shrug



Ummm...if there aren't people online then their numbers can't count now can they sweety?? Ahem....whistling I am speaking to those that did baby....Whap whap...

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Reply #24 posted 03/31/05 9:28pm

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I think I used to get more upset about certain things in the world. Columbine made me cry, but the latest shooting didn't. 911 and the tsunami saddened me too much to cry. I have been present with numerous people as they made the transition to the afterlife, and some have made me cry, some have not, though there has been grief.....and Sudan, Rwanda, Iraq, these all effect me more emotionally, I think.. As for this Terri Shaivo thing...I grieve that the only thing she will now be remembered for is all the media and those surrounding the family, as well as the family turning her last days into a circus of emotional politics. It was less about her, and more about what they all wanted, what votes will count in elections, etc. That makes me grieve more....that others are using people in many situations to their advantage and totally disrespecting people through exploiting them.
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Reply #25 posted 03/31/05 11:38pm

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Most of time, no. I really don't care. And here the reason why. 8 years ago, when i decided to become a "journalist" in the porn business, everybody - family, friends - turn their back on me. I became the ultimate pervert, the expression of the devil. Plus, i travelled all around the world and make a lot of money. I was the incarnation of all the disguting things on earth in one and only personn. I'm what i'm today because of me, not others. So, that's one point.

On the other hand, i'm not as cold as ice. In 1999 i was in South Africa for a report. Apartheid was supposed to be aborted for 4 years. My ass !!! I felt so sad about all the shit i saw there. Equality ? Oh no ! But the last day, I spent 2 hours in Soweto with some black kids. You can't imagine how proud i was. Because i shared feelings, laughs, words, with those little folks. It was an incredible and very emotionnal experience. I was touched for ever by those moments. And i had so many more experiences like that. For me, that's a most powerful way to live my life and feel the meaning of life in general.

So, Dex, to answer to your question, of course the tragedy in Rwanda was horrible. And still is today. But i think to start, if we want to change things in this world, we first all have to look ourselves in a mirror and see what we trully are. Maybe i'm selfish in my attitudes and thoughts today. But when i share, i share with passion.

Nietzsche said one day : "Become what you are". That's the main point to understand a lot of things.

I dunno if my words are right or understandable but it's quiet difficult to express such deep feelings in english.
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Reply #26 posted 04/01/05 12:58am

Muse2NOPharaoh

I cared about what you went through with your father yes.
The Schiavo thing although troubling was just abused by the media.
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Reply #27 posted 04/01/05 1:00am

Heiress

You've got to know that each death is hard on someone... we've all lost people, like that we can identify with the pain of others, if not personally experiencing it ourselves.
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Reply #28 posted 04/01/05 1:46am

analbolique

I don't care about individuals I don't know. Although some structural problems can sometimes get me a bit concerned, I generally don't care enough to actually try to make a difference. I care about those close to me, that's about it.
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Reply #29 posted 04/01/05 11:40am

DexMSR

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analbolique said:

I don't care about individuals I don't know. Although some structural problems can sometimes get me a bit concerned, I generally don't care enough to actually try to make a difference. I care about those close to me, that's about it.


nod Exactly!

My point exactly....and most people subscribe to this mentality, but jump all over shit they see on tv and shit and become all sobby and fake, when they truly could care less...in "some" cases...not all.
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