I am a straight white male, and for the most part straight white males drive me nuts, I just don't get it.

so first off what the hell is with getting a few feet from a guy and the bellowing his name as way of greeting, what the fuck is that?


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NOTHING is just for fun.
Everything is a competition.
Every conversation is one in which you're sizing up the other guy.
"So, what do U do for a living?"

We are constantly trying to check mate each other.
And the ones that don't have those traits--well, they're losers and underachievers. (I know people will be pissed at me for saying that, but it's true in m eyes)

Men, basically suck.

AsianBomb777 said:

See, I guess to you I'd be the underacheiver, none of that makes sense
What the hell would I care what another guy does for a living, it tells me nothing about the person. Even if I was someone who felt the need to compete with strangers, what would I care where they worked if it wasn't my field?

noonblueapples said:

AsianBomb777 said:

Sort of sidestepping my intntion with this thread, and I am not trying to start a fight. But out of genuine curiosity what is there to be won.
My outlook on life is to be a good husband and father, after that I judge myself by what I know how to do, to build, and create I want to know how to do everything and I push myself that way. What from your world view is the advantage in competing with everyone?

noonblueapples said:

I have no clue why there would be an advantage of my way of thinking.
Like I've said, this "competition mindset" is one of the things I hate most about men.

But, that being said--I think that way naturally. I have tried not to, but as a man--it's only natural to look at another guy and if he's not trying to "get his", you wonder if he's a slacker or a loser. I would never want to hire a guy that doesn't look like he's trying to get ahead. I just don't understand why that mentality seeps from work life to our own personal lifes so often.

So again--This is how I think. This is how alot of men think. And in no way am I saying it's a good thing. If men where truly rational thinkers, we wouldn't have Dubya in office making a mess of things.

AsianBomb777 said:

Well, to ane extent to each their own. Reminds me of the Martian Chronicles story where the martian and the human each see different landscapes over each others shoulder, and can't understand what the other is talking about.

Still, what is with that shouting someones name when standing a few feet away?

noonblueapples said:

Yes to each their own--but men still suck.
We're the lesser of the two sexes, me thinks.

* Macho-ness (a refusal to incorporate the equally important feminine energy of the universe into their life)

* Selfishness (this applies also to some women, but men have the dibs on this one)

* Brush-offishness (like nothing really means shit anyway)

* Self-destructivess

* Arrogance

* Treating women like shit

* Jealousy

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Many guys seem to be fucked up in some way as a result of expectations placed upon them. I like to think I've avoided a lot of that bullshit.

AsianBomb777 said:

Men don't suck and men are not the lesser of the two sexes.

There are just a larger proportion of men than women who give humanity a bad name.

mrdespues said:

This turned out a little more serious than I thought it would.

Has anyone ever read Susan Faludi's book stiffed?

mrdespues said:

that is one of the biggest turn offs ever 4 m3.

noonblueapples said:

sorry haven't heard of it. sounds interesting though, if it's along the same lines.

mrdespues said:

co-sign

mrdespues said:

I think that a lot of men need therapy.

(Then again, a great amount of women do, too.)

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mrdespues said:

It is a brilliant work, and she sort of got crapped on for being a woman talking about men.

A real quick wrap up of it is that in her previous book BackLash she sumised that womens problems are stemming from masculinity run wild, however on closer inspection she realized that society was suffering from a complete lack of masculinity. That is why men feel the need to wrap themselves in the things society deams "manly"



this book, along with Fight Club, and American Beuty and one can begin the de-programming

mrdespues said:

there arent enuff ppl 2 do the job lol

Hang out with more gay guys, that's all I've got to say. You'll have way more to talk about than careers.

GangstaFam said:

You go that shit right.

AsianBomb777 said:

Ooh, I take issue with this. I don't agree with the sizing up thing. Is that a Thai insecurity?

I don't consider myself a loser or underachiever simply because I'm not competitive about everything (some things, yes). Come to think of it, I'm very uncompetitive, one exception being my online interactions (sometimes). I don't consider it a weakness that I'm easy going and not incredibly ambitious. I guess it depends on your idea of ambition though. We're all grasping after something, even if it's not to grasp at anything. So in summary, vagina.



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I have a really serious question here what gives men the right to think that they have the right to treat woman like dirt and what gives them the right to think that they are GOD and that we are suppose to kneel down to them anytime they ask for something. Do men think that us women were put here on earth to serve them I DON'T THINK SO. Do they think that we are here to be maids for them do they think we are here to pick and clean up after them when they make a mess its like taking care of a child instead of being married to a man.

numberonefan said:

Perhaps you've unfortunately had some very bad experiences, which is regretable, but not all men think this way or share those failings you've listed above. Men and women alike come in all shapes, sizes and personalities.

noonblueapples and asianbomb's avatars look like a couple of blue balls talkin' to one another up there.

2the9s said:

You're a very creative person.

Fauxie said:

well it looks like guys hate the same things that women hate about them. we can't be too much different...can we?

AsianBomb777 said:

I think part of this is that heterosexual women have been hardwired through years of sexual conditioning to look for a mate who shows they are resourceful and have the potential to access increased resources (sexual psychology folks, I couldn't make this up if I wanted to).

So, from a scientific view, heterosexual men are interested in becoming attractive mates through pursuits of money or career gains. Natural selection means men want to know where they are in the "race" to get pussy. Which is why men are hard-wired to act competitively.

The same sexual psychology says the number one trait that men look for in women is the appearance of youth. So this could describe why a woman's weakness might be vanity.
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i hate the way men act in locker rooms and public restrooms. this whole kind of "we're all guys here, right?" attitude where men can be as gross and crass and disrespectful of personal space as possible, and you're supposed to join in because it's supposed to be some kind of fraternal closeness bullshit or something.

look, i'm not your "brah" and i don't want to see the rash that popped up on your balls, and unless i've known you very closely for an especially long period of time, i really don't need to hear about what your poop's been looking like lately.

last time i was at the gym, this dude was in the locker room barking to anyone who'd listen about his damn colonoscopy. NOT REALLY INTERESTED!!!