I don'tt think there is a better series of films than the "A Nightmare On Elm Street" flicks for my money! I never got into "Star Wars" but Freddy am I dork for the Freddy movies (not that I own anything beyond the movies). I remember I bought the box set a few years back and for a few weeks would try to watch one of the movies right before going to my afternoon clases. It was great fun! I don't really find them scary but just plain entertaining. My favorite by far is "ANOES 4: The Dream Master"...it was so eighties and had a good twist. Maybe I'm sounding a bit like another poser with bad taste but humour me and post some stuff on Freddy if you can think of anything to say.

I was obsessed with the series growing up. After part 3 though, it was all downhill. I wish they could make a serious Elm Street film again.

I've seen the first one (Albiet in edited form on cable) and the final one before Freddy Vs. Jason. I liked the concept of the latter although I didn't think it was particularly great.

I saw all of them in the movies and it was quite enough. That number 4 was directed by Renny Harlin, Finland's own son

i like most of them esp. part 1, 3,4,and 6

i watched jeepers creepers 2 recently and that has to be the most foul distubring face since freddy.

i really enjoyed the 1st one when it came out ... i mean its aslo johny depps 1st movie the folowing ones got weaker

Kayleigh said:

I try to support Renny cuz he's a fellow Finn, but most of his films are crap. Have you seen the latest Exorcist?

I liked them when I was...10/11 years old.

NOES 1 and 3 are two of my favorite movies. NOES was one of the first horror movies I had ever seen. I remember my dad was watching it when it premiered on HBO - I was 10 and I trred to be all cool saying that horror movies didn't scare me and it scared the living shit out of me. I slept under my covers for the next month or so, no joke.

Elm st 2 - if you single it out, it's not a bad movie but it should have never been considered the immediate sequel - I always consider part 3 as the real sequel since it follows Nancy and her father. By the way, i was devisted when Nancy died at the end!

Heather Langenkamp was so good at playing the heroin (even in NEW NIGHTMARE which Wes directed, but it didn't scare me like part 1 did). I always wonder why Wes never used Heather in any of his other movies like the SCREAM series.

Number 6 - the final nightmare, i think? that was the worst one of all...and i think johnny depp actually had a cameo in that one! lol.

I liked number 4 but didn't like the actress who reprised the role of KRISTEN...Patricia Arquette played her so much better in part 3. Plus Freddy started to become more of a comedian than a true scary slasher and it took away from the "license" that the original (and part 3) had.
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Number one had me crappig my pants when I was a kid. Great stuff. ANd the ending is classic

Number 2 - What the fuck?

Number 3 was also decent. Nancy came back and it was all good.

After that I saw 4 and 5....they were ok...something about a kid etc.

I think I saw New nightmare where they were creating the series and conjure up freddy...that was ok.

EvilWhiteMale said:

"ANOES 4" was the only great Renny film. "The Long Kiss Goodnight" was also good but other than that, I don't get how he works!

HobbesLeCute said:

Did you really bang the Hulkster!?

purplegypsy said:

I liked Tuesday Knight (yes, that's her name!) but I don't like when they replace actor's like that. Lisa Wilcox was great taking the lead for that and 5, although 5 was basically a bad rehash of 4. ANOES 6 was pretty bad because I think it tried to hard to be funny and didn't let the natural humour just happen like it did most in the ohters. The sad thing is, apprently the director (surprsingly, a woman, who made I think one of the most unemiontional "Elm Street") had been part of the series since the begining. It should have been more of an eventful finale.

senik said:

Search your heart, my friend. The answer will find you.

HobbesLeCute said:

So to find the answer, first I must find my heart?


Boy, you incresed my work load

senik said:

C'mon, it's a fun weekend project!

superspaceboy said:

There are a number of reasons why 2 was a terrible and preplexing film.

1. Where's Nancy? The survivors sold their house to this other family or what?

2. In Your Dreams? Not quite. The main thing that pisses people off is the fact that the original premise no longer exisists either. So let's get this straight. Instead of being in your dreams, he is now able to take over a weak teen's body...which brings us to point to.

3. Male Heroine Jesse. Now if they were going to go with the taking over someone's body, how cool would it have been for Freddy to take over a girl? That would have been great. She would have been super sexed up and killing people. It would have been great. Every other Elm Street, even the offshots, had female leads. So what a male lead....

4. Homoerotic! It seems as if horror movies have never been a place for gay characters....and this is the reason why! The subtle hints of a closet case make this already bad movie even more laughable. I originally heard about this idea before I actually saw the movie and I figured they were seeing somehting that wasn't there. But they were right on! Many of the scenes suggest it. Jesse is whiny and akward around his homily girlfriend (I'm sorry, but come on!) and when he realizes what is going (Freddy "invading" his body) he runs to the school bully, who pulled down his pants? Every other scene has gay allusion! The fact that this was the only Elm Street/Freddy flick to feature male nudity AND male nudity only is also very telling. I highly doubt that gay people embraced this absurd and insulting "coming out" story. You know how kids will say somehting is gay when they think it's bad....well

and finally
5. "Freddy's Revenge". It's the worst most thoughtless title. At least the sequels would suggest something about the story in the movie. Fitting for a lame sequel!

VinnyM27 said:

Tuesday Knight! That's right. She also was on General Hospital back in the late 80s for a few months. Rachel Talalay directed #6 and I remember her from some NOES documentary right before the NOES 4 came out and she was saying that she had been working on the series since the first one. That's why I couldn't understand why she would direct such a piece of shit movie like #6 - apparently Wes had no influence on her.

purplegypsy said:

Excatly, although I did prefer the middle movies which where kind of humorous to the first...Six, however, was well over the top!

Add this series into my bad horror film obsession Well, I really think the first one and New Nightmare are genuinely good films, but the rest are laughably good. Most of the series is decent enough, but Freddy's Nightmare is so friggin' unwatchable that even I've never been able to finish it! Turrible, turrible movie! Coincidentally, Frank Darabont co-wrote Dream Warriors, and Brian Helgeland - who would later win the screenplay Oscar for L.A. Confidential - co-wrote NoES 4. A lot of people get their start with low budget horror films.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Most people seem to think Six sucked and the strange thing is, with the 3D and the hype at the time, it should have been the best! I remember being in elemantary school and I knew someone that saw it and I thought he was the coolest kid ever! I've seen it a few times (for some reason, it is on TV quite a bit!) and it wasn't so cool! And see, Four was a great movie! The guy won an Oscar later!

EvilWhiteMale said:

No, I don't watch that genre anymore. I think his last good film was 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' and it wasn't so good so...

VinnyM27 said:

Yeah, I even wrote that in the section you quoted

RipHer2Shreds said:

Yes and I was repeating the fact because for some reason people don't think four was that great, even though I think it was the best and in fact was the biggest money maker of the original series.

VinnyM27 said:

I don't think it's the best. Yeah, it made the most money, but for me it was the point in the series when it started declining. They took out anything that was at one time scary and replaced it with anything that would get a larger audience in the seats. It's imaginative in parts, but as a horror film it doesn't work. Nothing about it is scary.

RipHer2Shreds said:

The one thing that stands out in 4 is Danny Hassel who played Alice's boyfriend - he was hot! Was sort of bummed when they killed him off in part 5.

purplegypsy said:

He was hot. Too bad about that motorcycle accident in 5

I like the Elm Street movies

RipHer2Shreds said:

That might be the difference. I'm not really a horror person. I just liked them as overall movies. They were like horror, comedy, drama, adventures and more all in one. Yeah, they were for a wider audience but somtimes that backfired (both 5 and 6 didn't really do as well as they should have).

1. A classic film. It was perfect from beginning to end. The mood was excellent, and there were characters that could be cared about. Characters are good if you want them to survive. And Freddy was the sick, twisted fuck that he's supposed to be. Good that they kept him in the shadows more to keep some mystery. And those body bag scenes with Tina were friggin amazing.

2. A lot of people think this one sucked, but I loved it. It still had a creepy mood and Freddy was still in the right character. My favorite part is when he stabbed that chubby kid by the pool. He dug his claws so deep and brutally into that dude. And that by itself was the epitome of who Freddy should be, a brutal, murderous fuck.

3. Though a tad comical at times, still a great one. The dream powers were cool and the story was well developed. And even though the skeleton scene looks kinda corny now cuz of the effects, it's still a hot scene.

4. Getting more and more into comedy, we start to go downhill from here. I mean, Freddy on the beach, wearing shades? C'mon now. It definitely had its moments though, like Freddy's death scene and the waterbed scene. Love that Billy Idol song (Fatal Charm).

5. God, this was trash from beginning to end. It was also the beginning of the end as far as Freddy's makeup goes. I mean, what the fuck were they using, Silly Putty for the burns? There was an article in Fangoria around that time that stated they wanted to create a face that showed how Freddy was aging.....WTF?! He's a ghost, you cunts.

6. I think I've tried to block this one from my memory. All I remember is Tom and Rosanne, Johnny Depp (why Johnny, why?), 3D, and Freddy playing video games. God that movie sucked. To this very day, I'd like my money back.

The New Nightmare was a lame job by Wes Craven, and Freddy Vs. Jason was a tragedy. Unless some real writers can step up to the plate, Freddy is better off dead.