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So...This Is It? Have you ever wondered if there's anything else to life than what's going on in your life at the moment? I was just sitting here, thinking about stuff and then I realized what a fucking waste of time is it. 
The only thing you can do if have children so you actually have an excuse to waste someone else's oxygen, but other than that you really have no purpose. | |
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Your soul is crying for Jesus.
Jesus, save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! save me! | |
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animalistic said: Have you ever wondered if there's anything else to life than what's going on in your life at the moment? I was just sitting here, thinking about stuff and then I realized what a fucking waste of time is it.
The only thing you can do if have children so you actually have an excuse to waste someone else's oxygen, but other than that you really have no purpose. 
 i feel the same way hun"A broken heart bleeds beautiful poetry as a tattered soul breathes beautiful art..." | |
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animalistic said: Have you ever wondered if there's anything else to life than what's going on in your life at the moment? I was just sitting here, thinking about stuff and then I realized what a fucking waste of time is it.
The only thing you can do if have children so you actually have an excuse to waste someone else's oxygen, but other than that you really have no purpose. ...and yes I've felt that way before | |
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The suffering arises in grasping on to things as permanent and believing they possess independent, inherent existence. It's the very emptiness of independent existence which allows anything to exist conventionally and dependently. Life is necessarily empty in this way and any attempt at grasping on to 'things' only leads to suffering. | |
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NoodleSoup said: The suffering arises in grasping on to things as permanent and believing they possess independent, inherent existence. It's the very emptiness of independent existence which allows anything to exist conventionally and dependently. Life is necessarily empty in this way and any attempt at grasping on to 'things' only leads to suffering.
In in so being that way, what is actually doing the grasping? The longing? The yearning and thinking? There is thinking, and no thinker to be found, me thinks. | |
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For me life is about improvement...Improving body, mind, and soul....That in itself gives you purpose...But whats the end goal you ask? Corny as it sounds for me it's to be the best I can be...Not just to maintain personal excellence but to improve it...I don't know what lies beyond this world and if what we do here affects us there, but that is what I choose to do while here... clever clever quotation - attention getting quote - sad yet witty remark - look at me! Im deep quote- song lyric about my ex cause that bitch stole my mp3 player! - line from movie I liked - Prince lyric - not very clever sig mocking other sigs | |
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Sinister said: For me life is about improvement...Improving body, mind, and soul....That in itself gives you purpose...But whats the end goal you ask? Corny as it sounds for me it's to be the best I can be...Not just to maintain personal excellence but to improve it...I don't know what lies beyond this world and if what we do here affects us there, but that is what I choose to do while here...
you have sooooo much to live for | |
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Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day? | |
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animalistic said: Have you ever wondered if there's anything else to life than what's going on in your life at the moment? I was just sitting here, thinking about stuff and then I realized what a fucking waste of time is it.
The only thing you can do if have children so you actually have an excuse to waste someone else's oxygen, but other than that you really have no purpose. ... do you really want to know what I feel... | |
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animalistic said: Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day?
family, friendship, love, music...look outside your front door and there are many reasons to go on | |
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Freespirit said: animalistic said: Have you ever wondered if there's anything else to life than what's going on in your life at the moment? I was just sitting here, thinking about stuff and then I realized what a fucking waste of time is it.
The only thing you can do if have children so you actually have an excuse to waste someone else's oxygen, but other than that you really have no purpose. ... do you really want to know what I feel... I doubt I'll agree with most of what you say, but go ahead. I'm sure other people are interested as well. | |
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animalistic said: Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day?
Your reason to go on is to get stronger...You don't get stonger by winning and having things go your way all the time...The weakest people are people like that...Adversity makes us what we are and how you deal with it defines you. If you choose to sulk and not learn your lesson and fight through the pain then you define yourself that way... clever clever quotation - attention getting quote - sad yet witty remark - look at me! Im deep quote- song lyric about my ex cause that bitch stole my mp3 player! - line from movie I liked - Prince lyric - not very clever sig mocking other sigs | |
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animalistic said: Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day?
Dependent Origination. The co-arisen state of dependent reallity which cuases feelings and perceptiosn of sperateness--"I, me, it, we , they"--to develope in conciousness is an illusary trap that cuases one to believe that there are definate "things" and "purpose" to things. | |
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Natisse said: animalistic said: Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day?
family, friendship, love, music...look outside your front door and there are many reasons to go on I'm not close to my family, don't have friends, don't really like music that much. I live in the city. It's dirty and smelly. | |
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thevoid said: NoodleSoup said: The suffering arises in grasping on to things as permanent and believing they possess independent, inherent existence. It's the very emptiness of independent existence which allows anything to exist conventionally and dependently. Life is necessarily empty in this way and any attempt at grasping on to 'things' only leads to suffering.
In in so being that way, what is actually doing the grasping? The longing? The yearning and thinking? There is thinking, and no thinker to be found, me thinks. There can't be thinking but no thinker. That would allow thinking to have independent inherent existence, or 'essence' we might say. It would mean that thinking could exist without a thinker, which is not tenable. There's a dilemma there if you attempt to posit inherent existence for the thinker or the thinking, and indeed a trilemma if you do the same for the five senses (object, action, subject). ... [Edited 3/15/05 20:39pm] | |
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animalistic said: Natisse said: family, friendship, love, music...look outside your front door and there are many reasons to go on I'm not close to my family, don't have friends, don't really like music that much. I live in the city. It's dirty and smelly. ok...that's your choice just wanted to send you some positive vibes is all you seem like you need some happiness right now  ... | |
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Sinister said: animalistic said: Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day?
Your reason to go on is to get stronger...You don't get stonger by winning and having things go your way all the time...The weakest people are people like that...Adversity makes us what we are and how you deal with it defines you. If you choose to sulk and not learn your lesson and fight through the pain then you define yourself that way... To get stronger for what? Life? Death is inevitible. That's the one destination we all have in common. | |
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thevoid said: animalistic said: Let's say you're single, you're doing your thing and then you have a bad period (a week a month, whatever). What reason is there to go on except the fact that society taught us it's bad to give up. Hoping there will be better times one day?
Dependent Origination. The co-arisen state of dependent reallity which cuases feelings and perceptiosn of sperateness--"I, me, it, we , they"--to develope in conciousness is an illusary trap that cuases one to believe that there are definate "things" and "purpose" to things. Yup. It means being a reificationist, to struggle in regression from everyday objects to abstract concepts to find somewhere along the lines something which has independent existence or essence. Surely time or SOMEthing must be so? But no. | |
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animalistic said: Sinister said: Your reason to go on is to get stronger...You don't get stonger by winning and having things go your way all the time...The weakest people are people like that...Adversity makes us what we are and how you deal with it defines you. If you choose to sulk and not learn your lesson and fight through the pain then you define yourself that way... To get stronger for what? Life? Death is inevitible. That's the one destination we all have in common. Yes Death is inevitible....if the destination was the most important thing then we wouldn't need to be born we would just go where ever death is....So obvioulsly we are here and we have to deal with it...And you get stronger to not spend your life in a place where you only wait for death and live in misery. Especially when you don't have to...you choose your path...Life is a journey not a destination... clever clever quotation - attention getting quote - sad yet witty remark - look at me! Im deep quote- song lyric about my ex cause that bitch stole my mp3 player! - line from movie I liked - Prince lyric - not very clever sig mocking other sigs | |
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Sinister said: you choose your path...Life is a journey not a destination...
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animalistic said: Freespirit said: ... do you really want to know what I feel... I doubt I'll agree with most of what you say, but go ahead. I'm sure other people are interested as well. We all feel what we feel and in that, I do respect others for what they feel. I don't seek agreement... that is why I don't usually ask questions. I speak for purpose of "sharing"... souls can take what they wish or leave it altogether. To be heard or not is a choice strictly made by you, although I don't like to share unless I know it's welcomed, especially in personal comfort zones, I am careful about that... I respect personal space. Many people know more than enough about me here... I am asking you right now... do you want to hear what I feel? | |
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Hallmark cards.  | |
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American self-help book culture. | |
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Jargon-ridden pseudo-spirituality. | |
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Sinister said: animalistic said: To get stronger for what? Life? Death is inevitible. That's the one destination we all have in common. Yes Death is inevitible....if the destination was the most important thing then we wouldn't need to be born we would just go where ever death is....So obvioulsly we are here and we have to deal with it...And you get stronger to not spend your life in a place where you only wait for death and live in misery. Especially when you don't have to...you choose your path...Life is a journey not a destination... A journey to what, where are we going? There is no purpose for the individual other than to procreate, educate and work (in the broadest sense of the word) so there will be better chances of survival for the species. [Edited 3/15/05 20:50pm] | |
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Fortune cookie wisdom. | |
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Intelligence by way of reading a book written by someone clever. | |
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animalistic said: Sinister said: Yes Death is inevitible....if the destination was the most important thing then we wouldn't need to be born we would just go where ever death is....So obvioulsly we are here and we have to deal with it...And you get stronger to not spend your life in a place where you only wait for death and live in misery. Especially when you don't have to...you choose your path...Life is a journey not a destination... A journey to what, where are we going? There is no purpose for the individual other than to procreate, educate and work (in the broadest sense of the word) so there will be better chances of survival for the species. [Edited 3/15/05 20:50pm] You're being a nihilist. I can see where you're coming from, although you're playing devil's advocate to a degree. Humans attempt to reify everything to find some kind of purpose. We construct a meaning for the life we live ultimately probably as a defense mechanism against insanity! We need the order and we need things to make sense. There's no ultimate reason why they should. ... [Edited 3/15/05 20:56pm] | |
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animalistic said: Sinister said: Yes Death is inevitible....if the destination was the most important thing then we wouldn't need to be born we would just go where ever death is....So obvioulsly we are here and we have to deal with it...And you get stronger to not spend your life in a place where you only wait for death and live in misery. Especially when you don't have to...you choose your path...Life is a journey not a destination... A journey to what, where are we going? There is no purpose for the individual other than to procreate, educate and work (in the broadest sense of the word) so there will be better chances of survival for the species. [Edited 3/15/05 20:50pm] Procreate, Educate and work is what people over the years has deemed as "Living" I don't follow this....This does not apply to everyone...it is the majority of the planets "life plan" again life has no set paths...Your journey is improving yourself, doing whatever the hell you want, and enjoying your time here in whatever way you like.... Go to school, get a job, have kids are just options not the rule.... clever clever quotation - attention getting quote - sad yet witty remark - look at me! Im deep quote- song lyric about my ex cause that bitch stole my mp3 player! - line from movie I liked - Prince lyric - not very clever sig mocking other sigs | |
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