ok, heres the deal..

there is a kid, hes about 9 or 10... he lived across the street from me when i first moved here. i told my children then that i didnt want them to play with him - something about him just didnt feel right, ya know ?

so, then i move to where i am now... and my kids are telling me about this boy thats here pretty regularly. some of the things he did...

* he told my kids that he was killing animals in the woods behind our house.. went into pretty nasty detail about how he did it, my daughter came in crying and asked if i would go out and 'save' the animals from the monster outside. when i went out there, he said, i didnt do it... i was only joking

* i was cleaning the kitchen one morning, my son comes running in screaming that this kid has a knife out there and is trying to stab my next door neighbors son. so, i go out there (right in front of my house mind you) and the boy was gone.... i went to his door to talk to his mother (because now my son is wigged out) and the woman tells me that its actually his grandson, that i appear to have a good head on my shoulders and would i talk to the mother ??? im thinkin, wtf ? these folks are crazy i asked the grandmother where he got the knife, she tells me that the boys mother bought it for him because he got an A on a test

* that same boy dared my 7 year old girl to take her clothes off.... she told him no way... so he showed her his penis - my daughter ran away and come inside for the day... i went looking for him, he was nowhere to be found.

* when the mother shows up to talk to me, i was LIVID !!! i tried my best to explain to her that i was no professional, but, i sincerely thought that she needed to get help for her son.... FAST. turns out that she did buy him the knife, which i explained to her that if the store would have sold it to him (which was what he told my kids to begin with) i would have gone to the store myself and caused a huge scene. but, when she said SHE bought it, i asked her... how can you knowingly provide your child who obviously has severe anger issues with a weapon and then let him loose outside where there are other innocent children ????? i talked to her about the showing the penis thing... which, really isnt that abnormal for some kids to try... the important thing is that my daughter knew what to do, and that she knows about it, and gets the boy some help !!!!!

* then there is his lack of emotion that concerns me.... you know how when you see something horrible or really gross that you say EWWWWW !!!!! and its very obvious to others that you are really disturbed by it ?? this little boy says only one thing... very softly... ew. in a very strange voice, with no emotion whatsoever... its truely strange.


i could go on and on about the things that i have learned about this boy, but i should get to the point... my son came home on friday and told me that he was in the hospital. i saw the mother this morning at the school, and asked her if he had been hurt. turns out that the boy was in the hospital on the mental floor getting some help.... which is GREAT... however, hes out now, was there for 2 weeks... mind you the boy is only 9 or 10 they dont keep a child that young for that long if something isnt really going on...

hes out now, and hes back at school the kids will be seeing him daily.... and he will be back around here again. i have instructed my kids not to be mean to him, or call him names, or say anything out of the way to him (various school shootings have scared the daylights outta me as far as making a kid feel like an outcast)... but they are not allowed to play with, or around him in any way. im scared !! i dont know what the hell to do with this situation... what am i supposed to do ? keep my kids in all summer ???? what the hell do i do ?????

oh, side note, the boy from across the street at the old house that i didnt like then, its the same kid.... his mom lives there, his grandmother lives here thats twice that i have gotten the same feeling about the kid not even knowing it was him..... what do i do ?????


signed,

a very concerned mother

Hit the bottle

REDFEATHERS said:

ya know, sometimes you say really stupid shit

Be very careful, Naked!
This kid does sound like he needs serious help. I'm not trying to scare you, but a trait that many serial killers' profiles share is killing animals.
Keeping yur kids inside the house all summer is not an option; maybe you can band together with your neighbors who also have kids and put your heads together to try to come up with some kind of solution since his parents and relatives don't seem to see a problem.
I'll be surprised if this kid makes it to 25 alive or in prison.

nakedpianoplayer said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

Have a bit of sensitivity Red, ferchrissakes!

It sounds like you're doing what you can so far.
Have you considered contacting social services? It sounds like he may not be getting the parenting he needs if his mother is bribing him to get good grades by promises of weapons. This boy truly needs help.

Oh my goodness!

Somebody at your local police department will have someone who specializes in these type of situations.

Have a talk with them, they can give you some information on where to start.

CarrieMpls said:

True, true.

Scary stuff NPP...

I think the mother needs help.

Does she work full-time? Is her son home alone for long periods of time?

CarrieMpls said:

Co-Sign on that. You have done and are doing everything in your power to keep your kids safe. I would contact social services as well.

He does need guidance...like a big brother or something. He's young, and there can be some sort of intervention before this kid gets too deranged.

best advice has already been given



it's hard to feel powerless to defend and protect you children.

I feel sorry for the boy, I hope he gets help

sounds like he's been abused himself and needs help. i think that as long as your living in that area your gonna have to supervise your kids more even if they're old enough to be outside on their own. find a day out the week where you could spend a few hours volunteering at their school just so you can keep an eye out on them at least for maybe 2 or 3 hours just so your presence is felt. during the summer maybe they shouldn't go out without you sometimes. it sounds kinda smothering but i dunno i wouldn't have peace of mind unless i can see that my kids are not around this boy.

Like the above ppl stated, contact Social Services, specifically Child protective services. They may not be able to do anything immediately, but they need to know what is going on. It sounds like they may already have a case with him. If the parents were unresponsive to your concerns, it sounds like an outside person influenced her to do the temporary involuntary stay. This is usually done as a condition to keep custody of your children. Child Protective services will add this information to what they already have, if this was the original case. If not, this is probably not the first time someone has called about this kid, usually after three calls from various ppl, warning signals go up to keep him under scrutiny.

This kid needs some major help. I suggest designating a play area for your children so you can keep an eye on them at all times. This boy is dangerous.

And contact Child Protection Services. And especially that mother who bought her son a knife, shit - that is so wrong. What the hell is going on inside that kids home???

thanks guys

i do think that the local police department is aware of him... and has had some dealings with the family. he will have a 'record' so to speak of hospital stays... the school is aware, and they are watching him there... the apartment folks here are saying they want to ban him from the property (which is sad for him that he wont be able to see his grandmother here at her house.. but i think they have a certain amount of responsibility to keep the peace here, and if it were a grown person that was causing so much headache around here, they would probably be banned as well )

i think that there are a lot of folks trying to get him help.. and apparently, due to the conversations i have had with the mother, he has seen his father (who is now totally out of the picture from my understanding) beat his mother.. that can have a very serious effect on children. and i agree, counsling is probably due for both the mother and the child.

the situation is very sad to me.. i hate to see this poor child have to go through this, and i wish the very best for him, but when it involves my children, it becomes personal.

i wish i could remember where i found this list. i read it one time after dealing with him, its about what a serial killer acts like as a child. when i read that, i was shocked to see how many things the boy has done that i know about, let alone what i dont know about

the other things that stands out... i have never seen him smile or laugh.. there is very little emotions at all that he displays. also, there is a very strange thing going on with the mother, she informs me that it is exhausting to deal with him not only for the reasons already mentioned, but, because he wont be more than 5 feet away from her if they are in the same room... apparently, he still tries to follow her to the bathroom which is something my babies grew out of a looooong time ago. that is one of the things listed on that profile - something about being connected in an unhealthy way to the mother.... damn it, i wish i could find that list !!!!

anyway.... the moral of the story is.... its my job to protect my babies, and i will do that if it means i have to go outside with them everyday i hope the best for the kid... but, i dont know what else to do for him.

again, thank you all so much, i really needed to vent

nakedpianoplayer said:

I can't help thinking that the mother gave the child the knife as protection.

BinaryJustin said:

who knows, could be true

either way, its the wrong message to give him, and he needs to not be allowed to take it outside.

its so sad to me when people have kids and dont take care of them this whole thing is just horrible all the way around !!!

nakedpianoplayer said:

www.drphil.com Dr. Phil had a list, check out his site

But Kelley, you have two HUGE dogs! Just let them be with the kids when they are out playing!