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PrintableTheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Janfriend said: This movie is good. It is better than what you will expect it to be. I have never seen any of Tyler Perry's plays but I enjoyed this film. My mother, who only likes dramas or thrillers loved the movie also. Don't go by what the critics say. It's a beautiful film with some silly moments I'll see it on bootleg then. after seeing Madea's Family Reunion, I can't give Tyler Perry my money anymore.Aww hell - the only thing worse than giving $ to bad films is buying bootlegs!! 
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CalhounSq said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: I'll see it on bootleg then. after seeing Madea's Family Reunion, I can't give Tyler Perry my money anymore.
Aww hell - the only thing worse than giving $ to bad films is buying bootlegs!!
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The only thing worse than Black film is Black Theatre, or as like to call it “Mama This, and Mama That”. August Wilson, Suzan-Lori Park’s, and a few others are the only ones who do serious theatre reminiscent of The American Negro Theater or the Houseman Black unit of the FTP. | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: CalhounSq said: Aww hell - the only thing worse than giving $ to bad films is buying bootlegs!!
trying to shame you into waiting for video...
[Edited 3/8/05 19:01pm] OH  Well tell him to quit buying them! 
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lilgish said: The only thing worse than Black film is Black Theatre, or as like to call it “Mama This, and Mama That”. August Wilson, Suzan-Lori Park’s, and a few others are the only ones who do serious theatre reminiscent of The American Negro Theater or the Houseman Black unit of the FTP. Totally disagree with you. There is great Black theatre as well as great Black films. Black people are the ones to blame for the good ones not doing well. | |
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The percentage of Blacks who patronize art cinema probably parallels the number of whites who do, however, the likelihood of a Black moviegoer seeing an American art movie in which they are the primary focus is rare—and rarer if that movie is directed and/or produced by someone Black. So why do Black people frequent those pandering ghetto fair flicks.
1. It’s funny. --- Well it is, The first two Friday’s were funny as shit. 2. They believe the oppressed mentalities of the characters somehow reflect True or Authentic Blackness. – whether they do or do not, in these productions the root of this oppression is rarely shown. How do you get Blacks to see art cinema? I think one effective way would be through satire. Robert Townsend’s Hollywood Shuffle is a good example of this. Commercially, Black theater is stronger than Black cinema. Black theater is a much better venture than Black cinema and Black plays usually return a hefty profit on there investment. Artistically, both mediums have there highs and lows. In the theater, Black people have a larger controlling interest, and thus have more control over images that are shown and stories that are told; in this respect I find Black theater a worse failure than its celluloid counterpart. | |
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lilgish said: The percentage of Blacks who patronize art cinema probably parallels the number of whites who do, however, the likelihood of a Black moviegoer seeing an American art movie in which they are the primary focus is rare—and rarer if that movie is directed and/or produced by someone Black. So why do Black people frequent those pandering ghetto fair flicks.
interesting points there1. It’s funny. --- Well it is, The first two Friday’s were funny as shit. 2. They believe the oppressed mentalities of the characters somehow reflect True or Authentic Blackness. – whether they do or do not, in these productions the root of this oppression is rarely shown. How do you get Blacks to see art cinema? I think one effective way would be through satire. Robert Townsend’s Hollywood Shuffle is a good example of this. Commercially, Black theater is stronger than Black cinema. Black theater is a much better venture than Black cinema and Black plays usually return a hefty profit on there investment. Artistically, both mediums have there highs and lows. In the theater, Black people have a larger controlling interest, and thus have more control over images that are shown and stories that are told; in this respect I find Black theater a worse failure than its celluloid counterpart. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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CalhounSq said: paisleypark4 said: 2 Can Play...and Eva was GOOD. Funny movie, both of em! See, now I know - you just have bad taste  j/k Eva was GOOD? Imma smack you paisley!!!! 
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I think Dex and mochalox hit it on the head as to why I'm not so amped to go see this.  I am MrVictor.... | |
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xpsiter said: I think Dex and mochalox hit it on the head as to why I'm not so amped to go see this.
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paisleypark4 said: sosgemini said: while i respect your right i can not agree with it...i respect Roger Eberts opinion on films....There are times when I read one of his reviews and will ignore what he has to say and still see a movie. But if he makes a convincing explenation for me *not* to see a film (as he did with Diary) i will not go see it...And a film like Diary doesnt speak to me. I enjoy going to movies to be challenged. To think.....I understand that some people go to movies for escapism. And thats fine. But if a film perpetuates stereotypes or cheats its audience then I think everybody should avoid it. Dont support it just because a black person made it. Roger Ebert is one of African American filmmaker's biggest supporters. Some of his number one picks of the year of recent: Monster's Ball Eve's Bayou Do The Right Thing Films he supported by pushing them in the media: Badass Hotel Rwanda All of Spike Lee's catalog Boys N Da Hood heck, Roger Eberts wife is black (something Gene Siskel would call him out on for always picking african american themed films at the top of his best of the year list)... So for supporters of Diary to call Roger Ebert racist is just disgusting.... I never thought he was racist...but I just don't believe he has actually seen a Madea paly obviously and probably will never have an intention to see one. They are very good and sometimes extremely funny....plus they have great great gospel, soulful interludes. Now on one hand. This movie has black stereotypes yeah but EVERY BLACK MOVIE has black stereotypes...ITS BECAUSE IT IS TRUE AT TIMES. That's why it is funny to us black folks, because we have been there or we know someone just like that. It is like a chance to enjoy ourselves and laugh and overexaggerated observations. i.e. In Diary..after the 'Divorce Court' scene as they were leaving, the judge said, "next up Bobby Brown!" (Whiteny in the background Bobbaay! BOBBAAAY!" "Ms. Houston u have to sit down!!" 
Anyway Roger is not racist he just misunderstood. I'm just gonn flat out say, if u are uptight, misunderstood and dont understand Madea or her plays DONT SEE IT Can I get a high five on that or a dap. People need to be more open minded. | |
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