Do you ever get the feeling that there's no meaning behind art anymore? That music isn't made because there are these melodies running around in people's heads, threatening madness if not released, but that music is made because people recognize the specific parts of music that appeal to certain groups and set out to imitate it, selfishly? Ever get the feeling that people disregard the years of traditional learning that Pablo Picasso and Salvador Dali went through to some out the other side as geniuses and decide to skip right to the genius part, without the knowledge or feeling that put the real geniuses there?

I think these things, then think that it really doesn't matter, and if you like something, that's all that counts, regardless of why it was created. This thinking has destroyed my notions of street cred and authenticity and made it a lot easier to enjoy lots of different kinds of art and music. I then think, after thinking that other stuff, that it's best to stop thinking so hard, leave the thoughts on the org and move on. Have a nice day!

i think it's incredibly freeing to acknowledge the possibility that there may be no original ideas left to convey in art anymore. i don't necessarily believe that, but i consider it a definite possibility. and if it's true, it frees me to do whatever the hell i want, because if it's been done anyway, who gives a crap if i'm coming up with some big great inspired thing? it takes the pressure off.

It's the age old adage of what you define as art and expression. Take fashion design. It's an art form - you might call it decorative or applied art as opposed to fine art, but what's the distinction? Because the same amount of artistic expression goes into creating a dance record, baseball caps etc as a painting. A pair of Nike trainers, an I-Pod, an Aphex Twin album are all pieces of art which are relevant and should be remembered.

Fashion, product and design can tell you what defined a certain period just as pottery can tell you what their tea parties were like. I don't think the fact that these things were designed to be practical or are an art form which borrows from past expression distinguishes them from art. You could say a painting is designed to go on the wall, but if it were made as a fresco, where it was part of the wall, would you say it was not art because it was practical?

Fine art at the moment is no longer particularly concerned with beauty, so you could say that fashion and design technology, which is always about a concept of beauty, whether or not everyone agrees on the concept is more relevant, more artistic, than the crap they put out as conceptual I believe. If you look at it that way, fine art may go by the wayside, and fashion, dance music etc which has a bit more effort put into it, will take over.

Quibbling over whether fashion is more or less important than art is just as pointless as questioning whether or not art has any meaning anymore. Of course it's not, it's fashion. That is not to say that fashion, at its best, is not a suitable subject for museums or that it cannot share some of the attributes of art. Indeed a pair of 21st century trainers or a Public Enemy record can sit just as beautifully against a standard Picasso in a museum.

Thunderbird said:

lol you are a rare breed indeed. i agree tho... sometimes just enjoy the shit(whatever your sheeeit may be) and thats that.

Christopher said:

Who do you think you are?!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

HE'S AN AMAZING YOUNG GOD!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

is this a trick question

Christopher said:

It's a contemporary art question.

HamsterHuey said:

LIES!

JDINTERACTIVE said:

YER COMPLACENT OLD FART!

HamsterHuey said:

Come now.

HamsterHuey said:

HH


how u be?

JDINTERACTIVE said:

okies...i almost answered lord woof

Christopher said:

Where's my hug?

Christopher said:

I am awright, for the first time in weeks!

Having bumped into you helped! LoL

JDINTERACTIVE said:

Chris, if you hug him, don;t squeeze too hard! You might let the hot air out!

HamsterHuey said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:

JDINTERACTIVE said:

LAWL! ....you havin one o them days? you forgot the tampon?

HamsterHuey said:

thats great! what changed this week?

Christopher said:

It's on the mantle piece next to the wig.

JDINTERACTIVE said:

So the false teeth are in?

Bite on it then!

Do you ever get the feeling...???

When I do I want sexual healing.....