DenverMoon said:

I'd say he's playing with her emotions and I would hope she can see that...hopefully she'll leave him behind and find someone who really appreciates her

To be fair, there really isn't enough info here to make an accurate conclusion, at least to this specific situation. I've found that many women will swear to their dying breath that they were being specific and clear when conveying what they were feeling and thinking...when in reality the words and phrases they used were anything but...and that's not just in the area of romance, but in business, friendships...everything.

My sister once told me how she was interviewing for a position/promotion, and talk of salary came up with her and her superiors. She told me that she said she wanted $52,000 a year, and they said they'd have to think about it. She then said that another guy at the same company was interviewing for a promotion as well, and he "went in there and said 'I can't accept anything less than $55,000'...and they said 'yes'!!...With me, though, they said they'd have to think about it and get back to me"....She claimed sexism, not taking her seriously because she was a female (and a black one at that)...So I asked her what she actually said during her interview, and she responded "I told them that I would like to make around $52,000"...I laughed and said "Ok, you said you'd like to make "around" $52,000...and this other guy said he won't accept anything less than $55,000...there's your difference right there. He was direct, while you were not"...She thought about it and said she agreed, she hadn't thought of it that way because she felt she HAD INDEED been just as direct as the male coworker had...

My own personal experience has been that most women aren't quite as "direct" in expressing their thoughts and feelings and desires as they later claim...I have no idea if this is the case in this situation or not...I'm only saying that it's a possibility to consider and keep in mind. Since we don't know exactly what was said to this guy, we can't say for sure if he should have "known" exactly how she feels...

Byron said:

That can be true, Byron

Plus we can't really tell until guaging his reaction to her "dive into my pussy" t-shirt

j/k!!

CalhounSq said:

Calhoun

I'm a guy, dammit. We're not all the same!!!

Perhaps I'll send u an orgnote about it.

Fauxie said:

I know you're not ALL the same but many of you are fucked up, no?

No orgnotes...

CalhounSq said:

Well, I resent the generalization. My only quality that I am aware of is to not be that man that u seem so jaded and disallusioned by Ms. Sq.

Henceforth if u refer to guys or men in such a manner u must include the bracketed exception '(excluding Fauxie)' or I shall orgnote u as many times a day as my 200 specifically and purposely created new accounts will allow.

Fauxie said:

Holy fuck! "excluding Fauxie" it is! Taking control is haaaawwwwt

DAMN Orgnotes they're my kryptonite

CalhounSq said:

Mordacious lady.

Byron said:

I was very up front with him. He knows EXACTLY how I feel. Not only have I told him but others have told him. People that know both of us. We were supposedly friends, but I don't think he was a friend after all since he doesn't have the courtesy to at least not give me double messages/signals. right?

When we were getting to know each other he would flirt with me and I would flirt with him, and he put me in his "in" crowd (if I can say that) because he never really speaks to much people, he's very introverted and has select friends but he let me "in" which I thought meant something - I guess not.

Of course there is much more to the story, but my original statement above sums up the entire situation.

I'm at the point that I don't believe in an instant "connection" with someone. I'm not talking about "movie, sweep me off my feet" crap. I just really felt that we were a good fit and he gave me that impression too. It was all bullshit.
[Edited 2/28/05 2:41am]

DenverMoon said:

Is the "make me dinner" comment the only hint he gave you or were there several?

CalhounSq said:

He's always flirted with me, he asked me out to dinner once but that's when he had lots of trouble with his girlfriend who is now his ex. I kept my distance when he was still with her, and he never asked me again. we were still friends though. But then they broke up and he told some people that he didnt want a relationship with me cuz he just broke up with his girlfriend and for several months all he said to me were quick hellos and that's it

but then he started befriending me again after MONTHS, he invited me to come to his house warming party cuz he was moving out, wanted us to work on some projects together, and then asked me to cook him dinner sometime but then I got furious cuz by this time months had passed and I reminded him that he kept his distance from me for months without addressing how I felt and how I thought that was cold of him and now we're not speaking. He refuses to see my side of the issue. He wanted me to just be all happy he was befriending me again when he kept me in limbo for months, I was like "NO, that's not how you got it, you don't got it like that" and now we dont speak anymore.

thanks all