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Thread started 02/27/05 9:01pm

kinaldo

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Scorsese snubbed AGAIN

This is getting ridiculous what on earth does the man have to do to win an Oscar??? The Aviator was a masterpiece, and only like his fifth or sixth...let me think..Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, and Gangs of New York.

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

Well as a point of principle I'm not gonna watch the Oscars when it's repeated over here tomorrow. It's gone beyond a joke now.
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Reply #1 posted 02/27/05 9:05pm

Case

I was on TV twice this past week doing Oscar predictions. I was SOOOO certain that Marty had this one!!!!! Talk about an upset--I'm VERY upset.

Clint, I love you and LOVED "Million Dollar Baby"...but you already HAVE your Oscar!!

Sigh...sorry, Marty.
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Reply #2 posted 02/27/05 9:06pm

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I think Gangs Of New York was really sub-par. The Aviator wasn't bad, but wasn't a Scorcese masterpiece, either. He should have won for Raging Bull.
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Reply #3 posted 02/27/05 9:11pm

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VoicesCarry said:

I think Gangs Of New York was really sub-par. The Aviator wasn't bad, but wasn't a Scorcese masterpiece, either. He should have won for Raging Bull.


No, "Aviator" isn't his magnum opus. But the DIRECTION was incredible. The scenes where it showed the making of "Hell's Angels" proved that Scorsese is the maestro of moviemaking.

"Aviator" certainly didn't deserve Best Picture. But Best Director? Damn right....
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Reply #4 posted 02/27/05 9:14pm

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VoicesCarry said:

I think Gangs Of New York was really sub-par. The Aviator wasn't bad, but wasn't a Scorcese masterpiece, either. He should have won for Raging Bull.


No, "Aviator" isn't his magnum opus. But the DIRECTION was incredible. The scenes where it showed the making of "Hell's Angels" proved that Scorsese is the maestro of moviemaking.

"Aviator" certainly didn't deserve Best Picture. But Best Director? Damn right....


Personally, I preferred Eastwood. I like how he shoots his films, and he can elicit much better performances from his actors. He focuses on the details of characterization. Scorcese is very much a visual filmmaker, and that counts for something. It counts most when a director can do both - which Scorcese did best in Raging Bull. It's ridiculous that he didn't win for that. I cannot say the same about The Aviator. His films have been going downhill somewhat, and I think he needs something truly spectacular to win.
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Reply #5 posted 02/27/05 9:14pm

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VoicesCarry said:

I think Gangs Of New York was really sub-par.


I loved that film although everyone I know was less than enthusiastic. You have to admit though, the scene where Daniel Day-Lewis was throwing those knives at Cameron Diaz is priceless! Also, Gangs received 11 Oscar nominations but not a single award. Mind boggling, especially when u see some of the films that do win.
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Reply #6 posted 02/27/05 9:15pm

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kinaldo said:

VoicesCarry said:

I think Gangs Of New York was really sub-par.


I loved that film although everyone I know was less than enthusiastic. You have to admit though, the scene where Daniel Day-Lewis was throwing those knives at Cameron Diaz is priceless! Also, Gangs received 11 Oscar nominations but not a single award. Mind boggling, especially when u see some of the films that do win.


It received 10 wink Most of them were Miramax-bought, from what I've read.
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Reply #7 posted 02/27/05 9:18pm

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VoicesCarry said:

kinaldo said:



I loved that film although everyone I know was less than enthusiastic. You have to admit though, the scene where Daniel Day-Lewis was throwing those knives at Cameron Diaz is priceless! Also, Gangs received 11 Oscar nominations but not a single award. Mind boggling, especially when u see some of the films that do win.


It received 10 wink Most of them were Miramax-bought, from what I've read.


Maybe so, but no one could have argued if Day-Lewis had won best actor.
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Reply #8 posted 02/27/05 9:23pm

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VoicesCarry said:



It received 10 wink Most of them were Miramax-bought, from what I've read.


Maybe so, but no one could have argued if Day-Lewis had won best actor.


Complete scenery-chewing, IMHO. Almost laughable. It was not worthy of the award. Quite a few people pointed this out as the awards approached, and I think that aspect lost him votes.

I think Eastwood is getting better with age (as a filmmaker), and Scorcese is losing some of his touch.
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Reply #9 posted 02/27/05 9:30pm

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VoicesCarry said:

kinaldo said:



Maybe so, but no one could have argued if Day-Lewis had won best actor.


Complete scenery-chewing, IMHO. Almost laughable. It was not worthy of the award.

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All I can say to that is I'll agree to disagree.
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Reply #10 posted 02/27/05 9:36pm

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kinaldo said:

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

I'm just gonna cut, paste and add on from my post in a different thread smile

Do you really think they're purposely not giving him the award? It's really just a case of being upstaged by another - and this time, a better - film. I think Clint Eastwood's direction was worthy of the award he won. I love Scorsese's films, and I thought The Aviator was great. But my heart was with Million Dollar Baby this year. Eastwood did so much with a very small budget and helped mold three great performances. Scorsese's work, for me, didn't quite match that this year. His losses for Raging Bull and Goodfellas are shameful, but he was outdone this year. It's that simple.
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Reply #11 posted 02/27/05 9:43pm

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he's one of my favorite directors and I think he more than deserves to be awarded.... who decides for the oscars? do just regular people vote?
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Reply #12 posted 02/27/05 9:44pm

VoicesCarry

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he's one of my favorite directors and I think he more than deserves to be awarded.... who decides for the oscars? do just regular people vote?


No. Because then Hilary Duff would be winning Best Actress for Singing Teen Finds Dream Movie #539494b.
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Reply #13 posted 02/27/05 9:52pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

kinaldo said:

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

I'm just gonna cut, paste and add on from my post in a different thread smile

Do you really think they're purposely not giving him the award?


No, NEVER! Because it's well know the best film/director/actor ALWAYS wins! lol
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Reply #15 posted 02/28/05 3:12am

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Marty, get rid of DiCrappio!!!!
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Reply #16 posted 02/28/05 4:50am

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kinaldo said:

This is getting ridiculous what on earth does the man have to do to win an Oscar??? The Aviator was a masterpiece, and only like his fifth or sixth...let me think..Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, and Gangs of New York.

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

Well as a point of principle I'm not gonna watch the Oscars when it's repeated over here tomorrow. It's gone beyond a joke now.



I hear what you're saying and I agree with your sentiments of the Academy's shamefull snub of movies like Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Goodfellas, but I'm sort of glad in a way Scorsese didn't win this time (however good the Aviator was).

Compared to the other contenders, mainly Million Dollar Baby, justice was done. I believe it would have just looked like a sad 'sympathy' vote if he got Best Director for the Aviator, because his resume contains more masterful pieces than this movie.

His C.V. looks far better as the modern great who continuously and undeservedly got over looked by the stiffs in the farcical Academy, than one who got an Oscar coz "damn! We forgot to give him one last time".

If Marty won it would've just been the same old bullshit Academy politics the members used when they gave Al and Denzel Oscars for Scent Of A Woman and Training Day, respectively. Those fellas should've got their dues long before those particular movies.


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Reply #17 posted 02/28/05 1:22pm

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abierman said:

Marty, get rid of DiCrappio!!!!



Not likely to happen at the moment man neutral I was just reading about Scorsese's next venture that's in production right now... 'The Departed', a gangster flick starring your friend DiCraprio rabbit


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Reply #18 posted 02/28/05 1:41pm

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senik said:

abierman said:

Marty, get rid of DiCrappio!!!!



Not likely to happen at the moment man neutral I was just reading about Scorsese's next venture that's in production right now... 'The Departed', a gangster flick starring your friend DiCraprio rabbit




I find it strange that DiCrapio is not finding any roles other than in Scorsese-movies....or maybe he is just pretentious...
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Reply #19 posted 02/28/05 2:18pm

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abierman said:

senik said:




Not likely to happen at the moment man neutral I was just reading about Scorsese's next venture that's in production right now... 'The Departed', a gangster flick starring your friend DiCraprio rabbit




I find it strange that DiCrapio is not finding any roles other than in Scorsese-movies....or maybe he is just pretentious...


He can find any role he wants. He just prefers to work with Scorsese. Wouldnt U? He last worked with Speilberg in Catch Me if U Can. He is a decent director too. If you are into pure greatness.
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kinaldo said:

This is getting ridiculous what on earth does the man have to do to win an Oscar??? The Aviator was a masterpiece, and only like his fifth or sixth...let me think..Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, and Gangs of New York.

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

Well as a point of principle I'm not gonna watch the Oscars when it's repeated over here tomorrow. It's gone beyond a joke now.


Im pretty pissed about this too. I cant complain too much about it because Eastwood is another favorite of mine. Scorsese, Speilberg, Ridley Scott, Tim Burton, and Eastwood are my 5 favorite directors.
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Reply #21 posted 02/28/05 2:28pm

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Haven't seen either movie, but I think Scorsese would have deserved it. He's soooo cute and appears to be very humble and nice. End of my profound opinion.
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Reply #22 posted 02/28/05 3:13pm

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Scorsese is too good for an Oscar (the thing doesn't mean shit anyway...)
Al Pacino and Paul Giamatti didn't even get nominated, shows how much they know about acting and movies altogether out there... Just another asslicking fest...
And Clint Eastwood winning Best Director for a crap movie?
The only thing that suprised me was that they didn't give Jamie Foxx the Oscar for best supporting actor (so they could give that lil whiny bitch DiCaprio the thing for Best Actor, ballsy move for "The Academy" to step away from their "we try to please everybody" fakeness...)

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Reply #23 posted 02/28/05 3:19pm

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senik said:

kinaldo said:

This is getting ridiculous what on earth does the man have to do to win an Oscar??? The Aviator was a masterpiece, and only like his fifth or sixth...let me think..Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, and Gangs of New York.

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

Well as a point of principle I'm not gonna watch the Oscars when it's repeated over here tomorrow. It's gone beyond a joke now.



I hear what you're saying and I agree with your sentiments of the Academy's shamefull snub of movies like Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Goodfellas, but I'm sort of glad in a way Scorsese didn't win this time (however good the Aviator was).

Compared to the other contenders, mainly Million Dollar Baby, justice was done. I believe it would have just looked like a sad 'sympathy' vote if he got Best Director for the Aviator, because his resume contains more masterful pieces than this movie.

His C.V. looks far better as the modern great who continuously and undeservedly got over looked by the stiffs in the farcical Academy, than one who got an Oscar coz "damn! We forgot to give him one last time".

If Marty won it would've just been the same old bullshit Academy politics the members used when they gave Al and Denzel Oscars for Scent Of A Woman and Training Day, respectively. Those fellas should've got their dues long before those particular movies.


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Reply #24 posted 02/28/05 4:39pm

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senik said:

kinaldo said:

This is getting ridiculous what on earth does the man have to do to win an Oscar??? The Aviator was a masterpiece, and only like his fifth or sixth...let me think..Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino, and Gangs of New York.

Do they get some sort of kick out of torturing this man? The poor guy has already confessed he won't die happy unless he wins an Oscar. I suppose losing to Clint Eastwood isn't quite as bad as when he lost to Kevin Costner but jeez!

Why do they so obviously hate him? Is it cos his movies can be extremely violent, profane or what??

Well as a point of principle I'm not gonna watch the Oscars when it's repeated over here tomorrow. It's gone beyond a joke now.



I hear what you're saying and I agree with your sentiments of the Academy's shamefull snub of movies like Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Goodfellas, but I'm sort of glad in a way Scorsese didn't win this time (however good the Aviator was).

Compared to the other contenders, mainly Million Dollar Baby, justice was done. I believe it would have just looked like a sad 'sympathy' vote if he got Best Director for the Aviator, because his resume contains more masterful pieces than this movie.

His C.V. looks far better as the modern great who continuously and undeservedly got over looked by the stiffs in the farcical Academy, than one who got an Oscar coz "damn! We forgot to give him one last time".

If Marty won it would've just been the same old bullshit Academy politics the members used when they gave Al and Denzel Oscars for Scent Of A Woman and Training Day, respectively. Those fellas should've got their dues long before those particular movies.




I haven't seen Aviator yet but Gangs of NY was the one I thought he most definitely would have been awarded for !
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Reply #25 posted 02/28/05 7:19pm

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He sucks that he never won for his movies in his New York heyday. It sucks that he does all these peroid pieces now...."The Avaitor" is just something I have no interest in, you know what I mean. "Raging Bull", one of the best movies ever...I really should get that new DVD...
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Reply #26 posted 02/28/05 8:00pm

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It's politics, someboy's responisble, I can't put my finger on it, I think it's that bitch Cybil Shepard.

The award is meaningless. It's a show were some people aren't good enough to go on stage, a show they say needs to be cut, yet has time for a 35 minute red carpet kiss ass fest.

Too marty

Somebody tell Clint that the motion of picture is an effect.... idiot
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senik said:


I hear what you're saying and I agree with your sentiments of the Academy's shamefull snub of movies like Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Goodfellas, but I'm sort of glad in a way Scorsese didn't win this time (however good the Aviator was).

Compared to the other contenders, mainly Million Dollar Baby, justice was done. I believe it would have just looked like a sad 'sympathy' vote if he got Best Director for the Aviator, because his resume contains more masterful pieces than this movie.

His C.V. looks far better as the modern great who continuously and undeservedly got over looked by the stiffs in the farcical Academy, than one who got an Oscar coz "damn! We forgot to give him one last time".

If Marty won it would've just been the same old bullshit Academy politics the members used when they gave Al and Denzel Oscars for Scent Of A Woman and Training Day, respectively. Those fellas should've got their dues long before those particular movies.




Nail on the head, Senik! (Although I think million dollar baby is shit boxed)

In fact, Denzel shoulda got the Oscar in '93 instead of Pacino, for Malcolm X. Pacino should have got his for Godfather Part II, instead of that chump that did win it (Fucking Art Carney in Harry and Tonto shake)

Both Gangs and the Aviator were NOT Marty's best work (even though if pushed both coulda won). I reckon he'll win one soon, by pulling something huge out of the bag!
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Reply #28 posted 03/02/05 5:58am

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I reckon he'll win one soon, by pulling something huge out of the bag!

If he still has it in him that is...
Rumour has it he's negotiating to do a sequel to "Taxi Driver", in other words he's preparing to fall flat on his face, the retards over at "The Academy" will forget him after that...

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