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Reply #30 posted 02/21/05 4:48pm

OdysseyMiles

Heiress said:

Ya know, another thing I find odd about American children's dietary habits is... little kids don't seem to drink water.

It's either milk, juice or soda.

confuse Am I alone in thinking there's something wrong with this?


You're not alone. My wife is very big on water.
Even on the occasions where she gives her kids Hawaiian Punch, she'll water it down a bit. smile
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Reply #31 posted 02/21/05 4:49pm

irresistibleb1
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oh, really?! hmm sounds like a challenge to me! biggrin


I'm the one with the proper tools. Besides, I'm a giver, not a taker. wink


define "proper". pictures would help! batting eyes
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Reply #32 posted 02/21/05 4:50pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

Dewrede said:

Eating meat is unethical !



No, it's natural.


Indeed, it's natural and healthy. Veganism is a mental disorder.
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Reply #33 posted 02/21/05 4:52pm

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lecoq said:

Dewrede said:

Eating meat is unethical !


No it's not.


can we agree that for many people, the concept and process of consuming meat is unethical?

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?
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Reply #34 posted 02/21/05 4:55pm

Heiress

irresistibleb1tch said:

lecoq said:



No it's not.


can we agree that for many people, the concept and process of consuming meat is unethical?

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?


And for some who do eat meat, factory farming is unethical...

I doubt that all the meat advocates here go out and shoot their own. Or are raising grass-fed cattle in their backyards. lol
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Reply #35 posted 02/21/05 4:55pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

disbelief

we've seen what a meat- and dairy-based diet leads to in children: obesity, children with type-2 diabetes, rampant ear infections upper respiratory ailments, to mention only a few symptoms.

raise your children on a meat-based diet, or raise them vegetarian, or raise them vegan - ultimately it's your choice. but be sure that you have all of the information before making your decision.


My kids were raised on lots of milk and meat. They are not fat, never had ear infections, nor respiratory ailments. Of course we don't eat beef all that much. Mostly turkey, fish and chicken with lots of veggies and fruit.
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Reply #36 posted 02/21/05 4:58pm

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Eternaldragon said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

disbelief

we've seen what a meat- and dairy-based diet leads to in children: obesity, children with type-2 diabetes, rampant ear infections upper respiratory ailments, to mention only a few symptoms.

raise your children on a meat-based diet, or raise them vegetarian, or raise them vegan - ultimately it's your choice. but be sure that you have all of the information before making your decision.


My kids were raised on lots of milk and meat. They are not fat, never had ear infections, nor respiratory ailments. Of course we don't eat beef all that much. Mostly turkey, fish and chicken with lots of veggies and fruit.


would you be concerned about other children who aren't as lucky as yours?
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Reply #37 posted 02/21/05 4:59pm

Heiress

Eternaldragon said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

disbelief

we've seen what a meat- and dairy-based diet leads to in children: obesity, children with type-2 diabetes, rampant ear infections upper respiratory ailments, to mention only a few symptoms.

raise your children on a meat-based diet, or raise them vegetarian, or raise them vegan - ultimately it's your choice. but be sure that you have all of the information before making your decision.


My kids were raised on lots of milk and meat. They are not fat, never had ear infections, nor respiratory ailments. Of course we don't eat beef all that much. Mostly turkey, fish and chicken with lots of veggies and fruit.


There are ethnicities who do not tolerate animal products as well as others.

Asians and therefore American Indians, do not tolerate milk products well. We certainly do not in our family...
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Reply #38 posted 02/21/05 5:09pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

Eternaldragon said:



My kids were raised on lots of milk and meat. They are not fat, never had ear infections, nor respiratory ailments. Of course we don't eat beef all that much. Mostly turkey, fish and chicken with lots of veggies and fruit.


would you be concerned about other children who aren't as lucky as yours?


Of course.

and I think natural foods are best.
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Reply #39 posted 02/21/05 6:06pm

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I was raised vegetarian and I think I turned out all right biggrin
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Reply #40 posted 02/21/05 6:09pm

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nodthumbs up!
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Reply #41 posted 02/21/05 6:14pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

lecoq said:



No it's not.


can we agree that for many people, the concept and process of consuming meat is unethical?

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?


thumbs up! smile hug Cheers for the support

I really can't believe how anyone can eat an animal disbelief
That's just cruel and heartless sad
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Reply #42 posted 02/21/05 6:17pm

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Vegatarian food is the last place people should be concerned with kids. Arresting unfit parents including people who don't make time to teach their kids anything. Kids are a full time job and too many people do not take the time, food is just one aspect. Putting them in front of the television or a video game is easier than making a good person.

"Unethical" give me a break, how about kids with holes in their clothes who rely on welfare to eat? I don't hear anything about ethics when it comes to the welfare system and what the nutritional value of that food is. There's thousands of kids in the US alone on welfare and people are concerned about vegans food choices? WTF!
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Reply #43 posted 02/21/05 6:35pm

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Dewrede said:

irresistibleb1tch said:



can we agree that for many people, the concept and process of consuming meat is unethical?

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?


thumbs up! smile hug Cheers for the support

I really can't believe how anyone can eat an animal disbelief
That's just cruel and heartless sad
[Edited 2/21/05 10:20am]


I'd kill them myself too if I had to. Why is it OK for other animinals to eat eachother, but we're supposed to get all sentimental when a cow or a chicken is slaughtered for consumption?
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Reply #44 posted 02/21/05 6:39pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



I'm the one with the proper tools. Besides, I'm a giver, not a taker. wink


define "proper". pictures would help! batting eyes


Maybe, if you're nice.
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Reply #45 posted 02/21/05 6:40pm

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MoonCat said:

I was raised vegetarian and I think I turned out all right biggrin



Seems like you did. But how strict was the diet?
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Reply #46 posted 02/21/05 6:44pm

irresistibleb1
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EvilWhiteMale said:

irresistibleb1tch said:



define "proper". pictures would help! batting eyes


Maybe, if you're nice.


i'm always nice!

i might be an opinionated, left-of-liberal vegan wacko...

but i'm always nice! nod
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Reply #47 posted 02/21/05 6:44pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?


I'd rather not have people exploited, abused and killed on my behalf.

We can talk about animals later confused
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Reply #48 posted 02/21/05 6:45pm

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PANDURITO said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?


I'd rather not have people exploited, abused and killed on my behalf.

We can talk about animals later confused


they're really not mutually exclusive.
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Reply #49 posted 02/21/05 6:49pm

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lecoq said:

Dewrede said:



thumbs up! smile hug Cheers for the support

I really can't believe how anyone can eat an animal disbelief
That's just cruel and heartless sad
[Edited 2/21/05 10:20am]


I'd kill them myself too if I had to. Why is it OK for other animinals to eat eachother, but we're supposed to get all sentimental when a cow or a chicken is slaughtered for consumption?



OK , at least you're no hyprocrite , like so many that eat meat are , i'll give you that

For other animals it's their instinct (ok , maybe for humans too )

Humans have the ability to recognize it's murder and unethical razz
(at least to me and many others)
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Reply #50 posted 02/21/05 6:51pm

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PANDURITO said:

irresistibleb1tch said:

if somebody decides that they don't want animals exploited, abused and killed on their behalf, why can't we simply respect that for what it is?


I'd rather not have people exploited, abused and killed on my behalf.

We can talk about animals later confused



What has that one thing have to do with the other one ? (to quote P)
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Reply #51 posted 02/21/05 6:51pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



Maybe, if you're nice.


i'm always nice!

i might be an opinionated, left-of-liberal vegan wacko...

but i'm always nice! nod


Well you gotta be extra nice for pictures.
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Reply #52 posted 02/21/05 6:54pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

irresistibleb1tch said:



i'm always nice!

i might be an opinionated, left-of-liberal vegan wacko...

but i'm always nice! nod


Well you gotta be extra nice for pictures.


i'll give you "moderately extra nice", but that's it. hmph!
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Reply #53 posted 02/21/05 6:58pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



Well you gotta be extra nice for pictures.


i'll give you "moderately extra nice", but that's it. hmph!


I see you're gonna be difficult. We're gonna have to fix that.
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Reply #54 posted 02/21/05 7:01pm

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Dewrede said:

PANDURITO said:


I'd rather not have people exploited, abused and killed on my behalf.
We can talk about animals later confused

What has that one thing have to do with the other one ? (to quote P)


What world do you live in?
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Reply #55 posted 02/21/05 7:05pm

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What's that supposed to mean ?confusesad
I was just quoting Prince for fun , that's all
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Reply #56 posted 02/21/05 7:10pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

irresistibleb1tch said:



i'll give you "moderately extra nice", but that's it. hmph!


I see you're gonna be difficult. We're gonna have to fix that.


bigger men have tried. talk to the hand

my being moderately extra nice is pretty good, by any standard.

so, brang it!
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Reply #57 posted 02/21/05 7:21pm

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rolleyes


Another vegan type thread where we meat eaters get bashed saying we are have unhealthy diets and we are soo dim cos we arent veggie eaters.. its getting a bit boring..

Cant you discuss this shit on a Vegan site? confused
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Reply #58 posted 02/21/05 7:25pm

irresistibleb1
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rolleyes


Another vegan type thread where we meat eaters get bashed saying we are have unhealthy diets and we are soo dim cos we arent veggie eaters.. its getting a bit boring..

Cant you discuss this shit on a Vegan site? confused


relax, nobody forces you to click on them.
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Reply #59 posted 02/21/05 7:26pm

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irresistibleb1tch said:

REDBABY said:

rolleyes


Another vegan type thread where we meat eaters get bashed saying we are have unhealthy diets and we are soo dim cos we arent veggie eaters.. its getting a bit boring..

Cant you discuss this shit on a Vegan site? confused


relax, nobody forces you to click on them.

I am relaxed.. wink its just same old, same old.. ya know..


You choose not to eat meat, other people choose to eat meat.. end of story. biggrin
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