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Thread started 02/10/05 8:55pm

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ok, heres a landlord question for ya.. UPDATED... please read

the house that i lived in when i first moved to this city was horribly managed.... i dealt with plumbing problems that took almost 6 months to repair, brown recluse spiders comming out of the walls, weapons of the landlords being stored on my property (he had them in a garage out back, the kids found the gun), amoung other things... so, i fought him, got out of the lease, and live in a much better place now smile

however, one of the biggest problems is my water at the old house... he owned the property next door to mine, the water pipe broke and they were unable to get water through to the house anymore. so, i came home one day and there was a hose connecting our homes... when i asked about it, he said i was just balancing the water pressure for them - something stupid like that.. this continued for about 6 months, he said he would be there to fix the problem, but never got around to it...

well, it turns out that i was infact supplying all water to that home... it was never fixed until i moved out. heres the deal... since we cannot determine who used what water, i have opted not to pay that bill until he does something about it.. he has never done anything about it, and now, my 'covered' time with the water where i currently live is over, and i need to have the water turned on in my name.. should i pay the bill or go to court and fight ??? if i fight, how much do you think he should have to pay ???


i get a little pissy when i think about what this guy did to me pissed
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Reply #1 posted 02/10/05 9:03pm

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See a lawyer and find out what your rights are, protect yourself so you don't end up with a headache. Maybe he/she can settle it for you, at least the lawyer will be looking out for your best interest.

Hopefully that landlord does not fuck with your credit.

Your lawyer can ask for costs and the landlord paying if any $$ you feel owed. It will be up to the judge to come to a fair decision.
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luv4u said:

See a lawyer and find out what your rights are, protect yourself so you don't end up with a headache. Maybe he/she can settle it for you, at least the lawyer will be looking out for your best interest.

Hopefully that landlord does not fuck with your credit.

Your lawyer can ask for costs and the landlord paying if any $$ you feel owed. It will be up to the judge to come to a fair decision.

well, i made my landlord back down in the first place, he was so scared about how i was talking to him... i stayed up one night, found a story about a landlord that was 'stealing' electricity from his tenents downstairs from him, he got himself in HUGE trouble nod so, i just kept telling him that we didnt really need to go to court over this, and he caved falloff

anyway, the whole court thing makes it kinda drawn out... how bout if i just smash his car windows instead ???? evillol
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Reply #3 posted 02/10/05 9:10pm

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http://www.zwire.com/site...=461&rfi=9



A Birch Street landlord was arrested Sept. 3 for allegedly stealing electricity from the United Illuminating Company.
Detective Sgt. Michael Madden reported that Michael Fiore, 32, of 15 Birch St., was charged with larceny in the sixth degree and criminal mischief in the third degree.
Fiore allegedly tapped into his tenants' electricity lines because his had been shut off earlier.
The tenants complained about their high bills each month and called UI who sent repairmen to check.
They reportedly found the line tapped and repaired it. Police reportedly noticed lights on in Fiore's apartment and discovered he allegedly had again tapped into his tenants' lines.
Madden said he expected more charges to be filed and estimated the theft of power cost at about $1,500 over the past year.


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nakedpianoplayer said:[quote]

luv4u said:


how bout if i just smash his car windows instead ???? evillol


You want a jail cell as your second home eek
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Reply #5 posted 02/10/05 9:12pm

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i stayed up one night, found a story about a landlord that was 'stealing' electricity from his tenents downstairs from him, he got himself in HUGE trouble
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luv4u said:[quote]

nakedpianoplayer said:

luv4u said:


how bout if i just smash his car windows instead ???? evillol


You want a jail cell as your second home eek

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oh, im sorry, i forgot to say this....


the water was hooked up to the hot water pipes in my basement...

so, everytime she wanted cold water next door, she had to run all the hot water out of my tank, she said 'i never could quite figure that out'


this really pisses me off, gas prices are high enough without me having to go through that shit disbelief
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this really pisses me off, gas prices are high enough without me having to go through that shit disbelief


in effect, stealing gas as well as water.
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Stax said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

this really pisses me off, gas prices are high enough without me having to go through that shit disbelief


in effect, stealing gas as well as water.

yes sigh

sad huh ?
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Reply #10 posted 02/10/05 9:21pm

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Stax said:



in effect, stealing gas as well as water.

yes sigh

sad huh ?

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Reply #11 posted 02/10/05 9:22pm

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Stax said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


yes sigh

sad huh ?

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thanks org valentine, will you go kick his ass for me ??


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Reply #12 posted 02/10/05 9:27pm

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thanks org valentine, will you go kick his ass for me ??


I'm on it.


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Stax said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

thanks org valentine, will you go kick his ass for me ??


I'm on it.



you look GREAT !!

now, i'll figure out something lovely to do for you hmmm trust me, you WILL enjoy it nod
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what state are you in? your rights are going to be determined by state law..

if your in california, if your lease doesnt stipulate which utilities you have to pay for you are protected by state law and the landlord has to pay for water and garbage..
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Reply #15 posted 02/10/05 10:00pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

luv4u said:

See a lawyer and find out what your rights are, protect yourself so you don't end up with a headache. Maybe he/she can settle it for you, at least the lawyer will be looking out for your best interest.

Hopefully that landlord does not fuck with your credit.

Your lawyer can ask for costs and the landlord paying if any $$ you feel owed. It will be up to the judge to come to a fair decision.

well, i made my landlord back down in the first place, he was so scared about how i was talking to him... i stayed up one night, found a story about a landlord that was 'stealing' electricity from his tenents downstairs from him, he got himself in HUGE trouble nod so, i just kept telling him that we didnt really need to go to court over this, and he caved falloff

anyway, the whole court thing makes it kinda drawn out... how bout if i just smash his car windows instead ???? evillol


so how much is he goin to pay?
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well, i made my landlord back down in the first place, he was so scared about how i was talking to him... i stayed up one night, found a story about a landlord that was 'stealing' electricity from his tenents downstairs from him, he got himself in HUGE trouble nod so, i just kept telling him that we didnt really need to go to court over this, and he caved falloff

anyway, the whole court thing makes it kinda drawn out... how bout if i just smash his car windows instead ???? evillol


so how much is he goin to pay?

thats what im saying... i had only lived there for 2 months before he started stealing the water from me, so, i cant tell what i use normally there, and what the cost should be, i kinda think that since there is NO way to tell who used what, he should have to pay for it all....

but, thats just me boxed
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Reply #17 posted 02/11/05 7:22am

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so how much is he goin to pay?

thats what im saying... i had only lived there for 2 months before he started stealing the water from me, so, i cant tell what i use normally there, and what the cost should be, i kinda think that since there is NO way to tell who used what, he should have to pay for it all....

but, thats just me boxed


You should ask the water company whether they can tell you the average water demand rate a family of your size is expected to use. That's a good starting point to figure out how much he stole.
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Stax said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


thats what im saying... i had only lived there for 2 months before he started stealing the water from me, so, i cant tell what i use normally there, and what the cost should be, i kinda think that since there is NO way to tell who used what, he should have to pay for it all....

but, thats just me boxed


You should ask the water company whether they can tell you the average water demand rate a family of your size is expected to use. That's a good starting point to figure out how much he stole.
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thats a good idea nod i'll call them right now... thanks hug
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Reply #19 posted 02/11/05 7:40am

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tried to help...being that im in the real estate industry...oh well...


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Reply #20 posted 02/11/05 7:43am

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I really urge you to contact a renters right organization and get connected to a lawyer. Not only to protect yourself but to get this slumlord shut down.

Good luck.
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sosgemini said:

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tried to help...being that im in the real estate industry...oh well...


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im sorry sweets, i forgot to thank you for your post hug

i went all through the state codes when i attacked him the first time and got out of my lease... and you are right, there is a wealth of information there nod

but, the water in this case, along with the gas for that matter, were on me to pay (that was in my lease), they were both in my name, and since he used them without my permission, its stepped out of the bounds of landlord/tenant and more into the criminal part i think.

what makes me most angry is that i believe he did it because he saw a single mom, perhaps not a lot of money, doing her best to support 2 children... im easy enough to get along with, but he took my advantage of my kindness - and then took advantage of me sad

but, i so thank you for your help hug
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UPDATE....

i called the water department, was told that even though the water was used by someone else, and they have documentation showing that sigh its still MY responsibility because it was in my name sad

they told me that i have to make a police report to be able to show that it was in fact a crime being done to even consider allowing me to have it hooked up here in my name. so, i called the police department sigh ... AGAIN, same as before, they said that it was a civil matter, not a criminal matter and they could do nothing about it. so, i continued to plead my case to the woman, she eventually offered to have a policeman come speak with me. so, the guy gets here, we talk, he is really nice about it, but says that yes, there is nothing they can do about it sad but, you know me, i keep talking lol and soon he shifts his mood a bit, and becomes a bit angry about it himself. i think the line that did it for him was that i said i was an easy target - that single mother card comes in sooo handy sometimes evillol

anyway, he gives me some advice on the things i can say to my old landlord, and then offers to go talk to his friends in city codes if needed and have ALL of his properties checked for this kind of thing. wasnt that sweet ? i felt better when he left, at least someone was listening.. so i did it.. i went in and called the landlord eek

i very simply stated that the water bill is in fact still outstanding and due to our previous conversations i was under the impression that he would be taking care of that matter. i informed him that my next step was to follow up in civil court, as i was directed by the police officer that i just spoke with about this... he was very quick to say, 'i will pay that right now, let me call them and have this taken care of.' omg

so, he is supposed to be doing that right now, and will be calling me back to let me know that it is done... i guess if he doesnt, then i will be taking him to court sigh but YAY for the little guys huh ?? if this works, we won again woot!

thanks guys for the help... and SNOWQUEEN.... thanks for reminding me not to take that kind of abuse from anyone !!! i guess i had kinda forgotten that we have to stand up for ourselves out there in this world.. not everyone is on our side, even if they wear a smile - its not always for the right reasons. hug
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UPDATE....

i called the water department, was told that even though the water was used by someone else, and they have documentation showing that sigh its still MY responsibility because it was in my name sad

they told me that i have to make a police report to be able to show that it was in fact a crime being done to even consider allowing me to have it hooked up here in my name. so, i called the police department sigh ... AGAIN, same as before, they said that it was a civil matter, not a criminal matter and they could do nothing about it. so, i continued to plead my case to the woman, she eventually offered to have a policeman come speak with me. so, the guy gets here, we talk, he is really nice about it, but says that yes, there is nothing they can do about it sad but, you know me, i keep talking lol and soon he shifts his mood a bit, and becomes a bit angry about it himself. i think the line that did it for him was that i said i was an easy target - that single mother card comes in sooo handy sometimes evillol

anyway, he gives me some advice on the things i can say to my old landlord, and then offers to go talk to his friends in city codes if needed and have ALL of his properties checked for this kind of thing. wasnt that sweet ? i felt better when he left, at least someone was listening.. so i did it.. i went in and called the landlord eek

i very simply stated that the water bill is in fact still outstanding and due to our previous conversations i was under the impression that he would be taking care of that matter. i informed him that my next step was to follow up in civil court, as i was directed by the police officer that i just spoke with about this... he was very quick to say, 'i will pay that right now, let me call them and have this taken care of.' omg

so, he is supposed to be doing that right now, and will be calling me back to let me know that it is done... i guess if he doesnt, then i will be taking him to court sigh but YAY for the little guys huh ?? if this works, we won again woot!

thanks guys for the help... and SNOWQUEEN.... thanks for reminding me not to take that kind of abuse from anyone !!! i guess i had kinda forgotten that we have to stand up for ourselves out there in this world.. not everyone is on our side, even if they wear a smile - its not always for the right reasons. hug



woot! Well done.
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woot! Well done.

thanks sweetie for your help kisses
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was the cop cute? are you getting married?


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was the cop cute? are you getting married?


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you know me well lol i love a man in uniform nod

im sorry to say that this uniform included a wedding ring sigh
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