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Reply #30 posted 02/09/05 4:05pm

Nothinbutjoy

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Byron said:

Case said:



Amen. I participate in Valentine's Day and Sweetest Day out of obligation, but geezum crow...I don't need a special day to tell someone how much they mean to me. Every day, I try to make sure that they know how much I love them.

I also hate Valentine's Day because of the pain it causes lonely people. I remember all too well in school, never getting ONE measly Valentine card. Or going to the Sweetheart Dance and seeing all the popular kids with their dates...and me, standing on the sidelines with my thumbs in my pockets, trying desperately not to look...well, desperate.


I gotta comment on this perspective...while I respect it (and understand the feelings behind it), isn't it a bit contradictory to say "I try to make sure everyday that they know how much I love them....unless it's a day created specifically for that purpose"??..lol smile If the other 364 days of the year you are wanting to show how much you love someone simply because you love them, then showing this same person how much you love them on Valentine's Day should not be seen as "obligation"...it's doing the same thing you do on every other day, expressing love.

I also think a lot of it depends on how you show it...like you, I don't wait until Valentine's Day (or their birthday, or Xmas) to show and express love in a variety of ways...so when V-Day does show up, I'm no different, other than perhaps finding a more intimate, personal and expressive way of conveying the feelings I have. Too many people think V-Day should be about buying gifts, when there are so many other ways of celebrating your love for someone. ( I personally love buying gifts, but when I do, I try to make them a unique expression)... Go out to dinner (their favorite restaurant)...let them pick the movie for a change..lol thumbs up!...drive out to the beach at sunset (if you live near water, that is)...show up at work unannounced and take them out to lunch...give them an hour-long body massage...and on and on. All of these things are things we do (or should do) throughout the year anyway...but we don't do it everyday. Doing so on Valentine's Day to me is simply my way of saying "Ok, today I'm making sure I do something"...it won't be the first time, or the last time I do...but I'll make sure the day doesn't pass without me finding a way to express what I feel on an even more intense level.

Then again, I may be one of the few people who never feels lonely on V-Day if my heart is not involved with someone when it occurs...


Wow, very well said. rose
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Reply #31 posted 02/09/05 5:01pm

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Not to feel compiled to spend money just because someone (The Catholic Church) decided to create a fake holiday around Lupercalia.
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Reply #32 posted 02/09/05 5:02pm

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i have been with my boyfriend for just over a year now, and last valentines he sent me a dozen red roses, i can honestly say it is the most romantic gesture or gift i have ever received touched


Even though that was a romantic thing to do, im not sure that many men like to receive romantic gifts,,,, although if any guys disagree with me there i be glad to be put right - cause id love to go out and buy some smoochy woochy gifts for him! love

so i just got him a practical gift- a trendy jersey with a small logo of his favourite football team (Glasgow Rangers).
Maybe this is a naff pressie cause it isn't romantically themed? i dunno.
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Reply #33 posted 02/09/05 5:10pm

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Abbie said:

i have been with my boyfriend for just over a year now, and last valentines he sent me a dozen red roses, i can honestly say it is the most romantic gesture or gift i have ever received touched


Even though that was a romantic thing to do, im not sure that many men like to receive romantic gifts,,,, although if any guys disagree with me there i be glad to be put right - cause id love to go out and buy some smoochy woochy gifts for him! love

so i just got him a practical gift- a trendy jersey with a small logo of his favourite football team (Glasgow Rangers).
Maybe this is a naff pressie cause it isn't romantically themed? i dunno.


Ask him why he hasn't done it on any "other" day of the year. And look forward to that "one" day next year while you're at it.

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Reply #34 posted 02/09/05 5:13pm

Mach

DexMSR said:

We don't want shit....we don't care about this day..and all you suckers that endorse the bastardization of yet another fabricated and commercialized holiday....Wal-Mart is sure to have a sale in your honor!!

evilking

Love is everyday folks....I wake up..and I love....Period!

Carry On!!


ummm ... me too ... valentines a life style really ...its everyday ... nod

but i am having extra fun this V-day... well... just cuz

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Reply #35 posted 02/09/05 5:13pm

DexMSR

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Byron said:

Case said:



Amen. I participate in Valentine's Day and Sweetest Day out of obligation, but geezum crow...I don't need a special day to tell someone how much they mean to me. Every day, I try to make sure that they know how much I love them.

I also hate Valentine's Day because of the pain it causes lonely people. I remember all too well in school, never getting ONE measly Valentine card. Or going to the Sweetheart Dance and seeing all the popular kids with their dates...and me, standing on the sidelines with my thumbs in my pockets, trying desperately not to look...well, desperate.


I gotta comment on this perspective...while I respect it (and understand the feelings behind it), isn't it a bit contradictory to say "I try to make sure everyday that they know how much I love them....unless it's a day created specifically for that purpose"??..lol smile If the other 364 days of the year you are wanting to show how much you love someone simply because you love them, then showing this same person how much you love them on Valentine's Day should not be seen as "obligation"...it's doing the same thing you do on every other day, expressing love.

I also think a lot of it depends on how you show it...like you, I don't wait until Valentine's Day (or their birthday, or Xmas) to show and express love in a variety of ways...so when V-Day does show up, I'm no different, other than perhaps finding a more intimate, personal and expressive way of conveying the feelings I have. Too many people think V-Day should be about buying gifts, when there are so many other ways of celebrating your love for someone. ( I personally love buying gifts, but when I do, I try to make them a unique expression)... Go out to dinner (their favorite restaurant)...let them pick the movie for a change..lol thumbs up!...drive out to the beach at sunset (if you live near water, that is)...show up at work unannounced and take them out to lunch...give them an hour-long body massage...and on and on. All of these things are things we do (or should do) throughout the year anyway...but we don't do it everyday. Doing so on Valentine's Day to me is simply my way of saying "Ok, today I'm making sure I do something"...it won't be the first time, or the last time I do...but I'll make sure the day doesn't pass without me finding a way to express what I feel on an even more intense level.

Then again, I may be one of the few people who never feels lonely on V-Day if my heart is not involved with someone when it occurs...



I just will not ever let some bullshit artist tell me that TODAY is the day I will drop money, or do whatever in the name of some made up day...that's all.

DoWhatChaLike!
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Reply #36 posted 02/09/05 5:17pm

Mach

lilgish said:

Not to feel compiled to spend money just because someone (The Catholic Church) decided to create a fake holiday around Lupercalia.



biggrin some may not know of the origins of "Valentines" ... perhaps you should/could make a thread to show the history ... i was going to... too

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Reply #37 posted 02/09/05 5:29pm

Byron

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I just will not ever let some bullshit artist tell me that TODAY is the day I will drop money, or do whatever in the name of some made up day...that's all.

DoWhatChaLike!

Well hopefully if you do it, you're not doing because someone told you to...you're doing it because you love someone and want to express it that particular day.. nod

And hopefully, you're not letting someone's "made up day" keep you from expressing or conveying love on the 14th, either... thumbs up!
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Reply #38 posted 02/09/05 5:38pm

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Byron said:

DexMSR said:


I just will not ever let some bullshit artist tell me that TODAY is the day I will drop money, or do whatever in the name of some made up day...that's all.

DoWhatChaLike!

Well hopefully if you do it, you're not doing because someone told you to...you're doing it because you love someone and want to express it that particular day.. nod

And hopefully, you're not letting someone's "made up day" keep you from expressing or conveying love on the 14th, either... thumbs up!



Hellooo?? Didn't I say "when I wake up I love everyday period?"....Hello...knocking on wood...anybody home?
The man who does not read good books has no advantage over the man who cannot read them. -- Mark Twain.

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Reply #39 posted 02/09/05 6:10pm

tackam

Food and sex.

How about a basket/platter of aphrodesiac foods? smile



I love men. So easy to please. nod
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Reply #40 posted 02/09/05 6:14pm

Byron

DexMSR said:

Byron said:


Well hopefully if you do it, you're not doing because someone told you to...you're doing it because you love someone and want to express it that particular day.. nod

And hopefully, you're not letting someone's "made up day" keep you from expressing or conveying love on the 14th, either... thumbs up!



Hellooo?? Didn't I say "when I wake up I love everyday period?"....Hello...knocking on wood...anybody home?

Then what's keeping you from showing love (dropping money or otherwise) on February 14th??...And if you'r already gonna do it, is your point to basically announce that you're doing it because you want to, and not because you have to??...

And if that was the point, then aren't you agreeing with me??..lol
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Reply #41 posted 02/09/05 6:19pm

tackam

You could take the aphrodesiac foods home with him, blindfold him, and feed him stuff while quietly removing your clothing, so when he's finished with his snack and the blindfold comes off. . . naked lady! mr.green
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Reply #42 posted 02/09/05 7:14pm

Slave2daGroove

CarrieLee said:

Besides pussy and lots of it...that's obvious.

Do I get a box of kink...or a nice gift?


Missed it completely.

Blow Jobs, it's the new man chocolate and flowers rose

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Reply #43 posted 02/09/05 10:16pm

Case

Byron said:

Case said:



Amen. I participate in Valentine's Day and Sweetest Day out of obligation, but geezum crow...I don't need a special day to tell someone how much they mean to me. Every day, I try to make sure that they know how much I love them.

I also hate Valentine's Day because of the pain it causes lonely people. I remember all too well in school, never getting ONE measly Valentine card. Or going to the Sweetheart Dance and seeing all the popular kids with their dates...and me, standing on the sidelines with my thumbs in my pockets, trying desperately not to look...well, desperate.


I gotta comment on this perspective...while I respect it (and understand the feelings behind it), isn't it a bit contradictory to say "I try to make sure everyday that they know how much I love them....unless it's a day created specifically for that purpose"??..lol smile If the other 364 days of the year you are wanting to show how much you love someone simply because you love them, then showing this same person how much you love them on Valentine's Day should not be seen as "obligation"...it's doing the same thing you do on every other day, expressing love.

I also think a lot of it depends on how you show it...like you, I don't wait until Valentine's Day (or their birthday, or Xmas) to show and express love in a variety of ways...so when V-Day does show up, I'm no different, other than perhaps finding a more intimate, personal and expressive way of conveying the feelings I have. Too many people think V-Day should be about buying gifts, when there are so many other ways of celebrating your love for someone. ( I personally love buying gifts, but when I do, I try to make them a unique expression)... Go out to dinner (their favorite restaurant)...let them pick the movie for a change..lol thumbs up!...drive out to the beach at sunset (if you live near water, that is)...show up at work unannounced and take them out to lunch...give them an hour-long body massage...and on and on. All of these things are things we do (or should do) throughout the year anyway...but we don't do it everyday. Doing so on Valentine's Day to me is simply my way of saying "Ok, today I'm making sure I do something"...it won't be the first time, or the last time I do...but I'll make sure the day doesn't pass without me finding a way to express what I feel on an even more intense level.

Then again, I may be one of the few people who never feels lonely on V-Day if my heart is not involved with someone when it occurs...


I actually agree with much of what you're saying. I DO make attempts to do something a little extra special on Valentine's Day and I DO get gifts. But no chocolates, no flowers and no b.s. Hallmark gifts. I hate most holidays as it is, simply because they are so homogenized in terms of what kinds of presents are expected.

But Valentine's Day is not so much a celebration of LOVE as it is a celebration of COUPLEHOOD. Sure, if I'm in a relationship, there's some sort of sentimental exchange at some point during the day. But all I can think about are the lonely people out there. I know that's kinda neurotic. I just think this Leo Buscaglia view of love and being in a relationship is very hazardous to people, because it basically tells people that if they're not in a monogamous, committed relationship, there's something wrong with them. And there's sooooo much crap like that around Valentine's Day. All you hear is "If your single, here's how to meet someone in time for Feb. 14..." or "How to nab that man in 3 dates or less..."

I DO believe that Love (as a philosophical ideal) can truly save the world. But I also believe that the way society mixes wacky notions of love with the pressure to be in a relationship with unrealistic expectations of what that relationship should BE...all results in one big, unhappy clusterfuck.

Am I a cynic or a nihilist? You decide...
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Reply #44 posted 02/09/05 10:17pm

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Case said:

Byron said:



I gotta comment on this perspective...while I respect it (and understand the feelings behind it), isn't it a bit contradictory to say "I try to make sure everyday that they know how much I love them....unless it's a day created specifically for that purpose"??..lol smile If the other 364 days of the year you are wanting to show how much you love someone simply because you love them, then showing this same person how much you love them on Valentine's Day should not be seen as "obligation"...it's doing the same thing you do on every other day, expressing love.

I also think a lot of it depends on how you show it...like you, I don't wait until Valentine's Day (or their birthday, or Xmas) to show and express love in a variety of ways...so when V-Day does show up, I'm no different, other than perhaps finding a more intimate, personal and expressive way of conveying the feelings I have. Too many people think V-Day should be about buying gifts, when there are so many other ways of celebrating your love for someone. ( I personally love buying gifts, but when I do, I try to make them a unique expression)... Go out to dinner (their favorite restaurant)...let them pick the movie for a change..lol thumbs up!...drive out to the beach at sunset (if you live near water, that is)...show up at work unannounced and take them out to lunch...give them an hour-long body massage...and on and on. All of these things are things we do (or should do) throughout the year anyway...but we don't do it everyday. Doing so on Valentine's Day to me is simply my way of saying "Ok, today I'm making sure I do something"...it won't be the first time, or the last time I do...but I'll make sure the day doesn't pass without me finding a way to express what I feel on an even more intense level.

Then again, I may be one of the few people who never feels lonely on V-Day if my heart is not involved with someone when it occurs...


I actually agree with much of what you're saying. I DO make attempts to do something a little extra special on Valentine's Day and I DO get gifts. But no chocolates, no flowers and no b.s. Hallmark gifts. I hate most holidays as it is, simply because they are so homogenized in terms of what kinds of presents are expected.

But Valentine's Day is not so much a celebration of LOVE as it is a celebration of COUPLEHOOD. Sure, if I'm in a relationship, there's some sort of sentimental exchange at some point during the day. But all I can think about are the lonely people out there. I know that's kinda neurotic. I just think this Leo Buscaglia view of love and being in a relationship is very hazardous to people, because it basically tells people that if they're not in a monogamous, committed relationship, there's something wrong with them. And there's sooooo much crap like that around Valentine's Day. All you hear is "If your single, here's how to meet someone in time for Feb. 14..." or "How to nab that man in 3 dates or less..."

I DO believe that Love (as a philosophical ideal) can truly save the world. But I also believe that the way society mixes wacky notions of love with the pressure to be in a relationship with unrealistic expectations of what that relationship should BE...all results in one big, unhappy clusterfuck.

Am I a cynic or a nihilist? You decide...


Realist.
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Reply #45 posted 02/10/05 4:16am

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Reply #46 posted 02/10/05 4:23am

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cd's is best and most realistic bet.

"girl wheres my MC Hammer mega rare cd single of "this is the way we roll?"


I never get what I want sad
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Reply #47 posted 02/10/05 4:37am

Heavenly

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You could take the aphrodesiac foods home with him, blindfold him, and feed him stuff while quietly removing your clothing, so when he's finished with his snack and the blindfold comes off. . . naked lady! mr.green

You should be a politician, and make this a law biggrin
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Reply #48 posted 02/10/05 4:44am

TheRealFiness

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Can't go wrong with a Kangol mushy
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(in valentine red)


(model: MC Shan)



Kangol's never go out of style do they LOL...i had one in every ghat dayum color
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Reply #49 posted 02/10/05 4:47am

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TheRealFiness said:

CinisterCee said:

Can't go wrong with a Kangol mushy
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(in valentine red)


(model: MC Shan)



Kangol's never go out of style do they LOL...i had one in every ghat dayum color


Reminds me of LL Cool J (of course) and "i need love" video
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Reply #50 posted 02/10/05 8:26am

CinisterCee

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Reminds me of LL Cool J (of course) and "i need love" video


He also rocked the red bucket-style Kangol nod



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Reply #51 posted 02/10/05 9:12am

tackam

Heavenly said:

tackam said:

You could take the aphrodesiac foods home with him, blindfold him, and feed him stuff while quietly removing your clothing, so when he's finished with his snack and the blindfold comes off. . . naked lady! mr.green

You should be a politician, and make this a law biggrin



lol

I could probably win even if that were my entire platform.
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Reply #52 posted 02/10/05 9:26am

CarrieLee

I found a really funny card...It's a woman sitting at a table with some wine and she says "Would you like a big hug for your Valentine?" then you open it and it says "Or would you rather me fuck your brains out?"

lol

You know I bought it...
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Reply #53 posted 02/10/05 9:40am

ella731

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mines getting the same thing I got for my birthday
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Reply #54 posted 02/10/05 10:33am

CinisterCee

ella731 said:

mines getting the same thing I got for my birthday


a whole lotta nuthin? confused
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Reply #55 posted 02/11/05 9:17am

SANSKER7

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What's so hard to figure out men. Give em a blowjob and we'll be just as happy. I don't care for gifts or anything.
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First I need a picture of your mother, to verify the fact that there's not another one in the universe so supreme!!"
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Reply #56 posted 02/11/05 9:44am

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they want lots and lots of love...hugs and kisses kisses hug
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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