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DNA questions

I have to start teaching a new module on Monday, Molecular Biology. My intro lecture has to grip the students (for many it is a dull subject). What would you curious folk like to know about DNA/Genetics that would get you hooked on the subject? Then I can steal your ideas to get my students excited. Help, I am drying up here!!
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Reply #1 posted 02/03/05 10:09am

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Humans have 23 Chromosomes and Apes have 24 right?
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Reply #2 posted 02/03/05 10:11am

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Having sat through a dull DNA lecture once i really feel for your students boxed


why don't you just throw a sickie nod
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Reply #3 posted 02/03/05 10:13am

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Lleena said:

Humans have 23 Chromosomes and Apes have 24 right?


23 and 24 pairs, right. Humans 46 and apes 48.

Good link the students to gorrilas thumbs up!
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Reply #4 posted 02/03/05 10:15am

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p0pRocks said:

Having sat through a dull DNA lecture once i really feel for your students boxed


why don't you just throw a sickie nod


I'd love too lol No I wouldn't actually I want to at least give those that are interested a fighting chance. It's the whole term anyway, this is just lecture 1
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Reply #5 posted 02/03/05 10:16am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Lleena said:

Humans have 23 Chromosomes and Apes have 24 right?


23 and 24 pairs, right. Humans 46 and apes 48.

Good link the students to gorrilas thumbs up!



Tell them you wont take any "apeing" around in class.

So who has 47?
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Reply #6 posted 02/03/05 10:20am

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Lleena said:

PREDOMINANT said:



23 and 24 pairs, right. Humans 46 and apes 48.

Good link the students to gorrilas thumbs up!



Tell them you wont take any "apeing" around in class.

So who has 47?


lol like it (they are gonna hate me bawl)

47? Nuttin, they come in pairs. one set from mummy and one from daddy so you can't have an odd number. Except in certain cases.
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Reply #7 posted 02/03/05 10:23am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Lleena said:




Tell them you wont take any "apeing" around in class.

So who has 47?


lol like it (they are gonna hate me bawl)

47? Nuttin, they come in pairs. one set from mummy and one from daddy so you can't have an odd number. Except in certain cases.




2the9s? smile
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Reply #8 posted 02/03/05 10:24am

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Lleena said:

PREDOMINANT said:



lol like it (they are gonna hate me bawl)

47? Nuttin, they come in pairs. one set from mummy and one from daddy so you can't have an odd number. Except in certain cases.




2the9s? smile


Shouldn't laugh but, yea I guess so falloff
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Reply #9 posted 02/03/05 10:34am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Lleena said:





2the9s? smile


Shouldn't laugh but, yea I guess so falloff



innocent



How about they take swabs from each other and try to identify the culprit!!? There's always a culprit in every class!
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Reply #10 posted 02/03/05 10:49am

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PREDOMINANT said:

p0pRocks said:

Having sat through a dull DNA lecture once i really feel for your students boxed


why don't you just throw a sickie nod


I'd love too lol No I wouldn't actually I want to at least give those that are interested a fighting chance. It's the whole term anyway, this is just lecture 1


hmm

Oh well good luck, prepare for some sleeping students giggle

I actually found it reallt interesting to tell the truth smile But then again i didn't have a whole term on it woot!
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Reply #11 posted 02/03/05 10:50am

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Lleena said:





2the9s? smile


Shouldn't laugh but, yea I guess so falloff


Trisomy 21? wink lol
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Reply #12 posted 02/03/05 10:54am

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VoicesCarry said:

PREDOMINANT said:



Shouldn't laugh but, yea I guess so falloff


Trisomy 21? wink lol


Top of the class, that's exactly why you shouldn't laugh! Also Trisomy 13 and 18 too. All would result in 47 chromosomes.
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Reply #13 posted 02/03/05 10:56am

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Trisomy 21? wink lol


Top of the class, that's exactly why you shouldn't laugh! Also Trisomy 13 and 18 too. All would result in 47 chromosomes.


lol

Yes, but trisomy 21 carries certain properties with it that I associate so closely with 2the9s. wink
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Reply #14 posted 02/03/05 11:03am

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PREDOMINANT said:

VoicesCarry said:



Trisomy 21? wink lol


Top of the class, that's exactly why you shouldn't laugh! Also Trisomy 13 and 18 too. All would result in 47 chromosomes.



I dont know what that is.! boxed
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Reply #15 posted 02/03/05 11:07am

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As for your lecture, do this:

-start a thread in GD and ask everyone here to write as much as they know about DNA
-print the results, bring 'em to class ---> instant fun!
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Reply #16 posted 02/03/05 11:09am

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VoicesCarry said:

As for your lecture, do this:

-start a thread in GD and ask everyone here to write as much as they know about DNA
-print the results, bring 'em to class ---> instant fun!


That was kind of the idea!! But from the other angle - without humiliating orgers lol
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Reply #17 posted 02/03/05 11:11am

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Just watch CSI: Invesigation.
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Reply #18 posted 02/03/05 11:16am

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luv4u said:

Just watch CSI: Invesigation.


Forensics?

barf
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Reply #19 posted 02/03/05 11:28am

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PREDOMINANT said:

luv4u said:

Just watch CSI: Invesigation.


Forensics?

barf


eek
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Reply #20 posted 02/03/05 11:29am

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PREDOMINANT said:

I have to start teaching a new module on Monday, Molecular Biology. My intro lecture has to grip the students (for many it is a dull subject). What would you curious folk like to know about DNA/Genetics that would get you hooked on the subject? Then I can steal your ideas to get my students excited. Help, I am drying up here!!


Testing DNA to check if your father and mother are REALLY your parents.
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Reply #21 posted 02/03/05 11:30am

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luv4u said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I have to start teaching a new module on Monday, Molecular Biology. My intro lecture has to grip the students (for many it is a dull subject). What would you curious folk like to know about DNA/Genetics that would get you hooked on the subject? Then I can steal your ideas to get my students excited. Help, I am drying up here!!


Testing DNA to check if your father and mother are REALLY your parents.


Paternity tests on Maury.
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Reply #22 posted 02/03/05 11:32am

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luv4u said:

PREDOMINANT said:

I have to start teaching a new module on Monday, Molecular Biology. My intro lecture has to grip the students (for many it is a dull subject). What would you curious folk like to know about DNA/Genetics that would get you hooked on the subject? Then I can steal your ideas to get my students excited. Help, I am drying up here!!


Testing DNA to check if your father and mother are REALLY your parents.


We don't like to instal theese kinds of ideas lol in young students. They tend to come up with this on their own.
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Reply #23 posted 02/03/05 11:35am

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VoicesCarry said:

luv4u said:



Testing DNA to check if your father and mother are REALLY your parents.


Paternity tests on Maury.


And 1/2 the time the girl lies on the show. Desparate for money.
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Reply #24 posted 02/03/05 12:18pm

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Paleontolists in Great Britain have found, it is believed, a new species of dinosaur related to the T. Rex. Why not actually liven up the lecture by inviting along a T. Rex as a guest speaker?!
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Reply #25 posted 02/03/05 12:42pm

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What I sometimes show students is a many-paged book. A thousand pages or so. Tell them to think that each page holds a thousand letters. Which makes a million letters in that book. Then say that you need approx 3000 books to equal the same amount of information which is contained by all chromosomes.
Of which there are 22 pairs plus X and Y
of which all are present in each cell in our body (except the ones you know, explain how & why later).
human body contains 3 zillion cells
And if you take all DNA contained in a human and lay it out in a straight line, you could go to the moon and back (or sumthing, dunno the exact comparison)

When a cell divides all 3 bill letters are copied for the new cell.

And then i usually would use some examples of when one of those 3 billion letters is wrong, you could get diseases like cystic fibrosis.

Alledged harmful radiation by cell-phones

99% of human and chimp DNA are homologues (more or less)
Only 30000 genes, many less then thought, examples of other organisms (flowers) with many more genes)

and other trivia i can't remember just now.
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Reply #26 posted 02/03/05 2:52pm

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PREDOMINANT said:

I have to start teaching a new module on Monday, Molecular Biology. My intro lecture has to grip the students (for many it is a dull subject). What would you curious folk like to know about DNA/Genetics that would get you hooked on the subject? Then I can steal your ideas to get my students excited. Help, I am drying up here!!


have you ever done any work on Chromosonal disorders? hmmm ever heard of Turner Syndrome? that's what I have nod
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Reply #27 posted 02/04/05 3:19am

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AlfofMelmak said:

What I sometimes show students is a many-paged book. A thousand pages or so. Tell them to think that each page holds a thousand letters. Which makes a million letters in that book. Then say that you need approx 3000 books to equal the same amount of information which is contained by all chromosomes.
Of which there are 22 pairs plus X and Y
of which all are present in each cell in our body (except the ones you know, explain how & why later).
human body contains 3 zillion cells
And if you take all DNA contained in a human and lay it out in a straight line, you could go to the moon and back (or sumthing, dunno the exact comparison)

When a cell divides all 3 bill letters are copied for the new cell.

And then i usually would use some examples of when one of those 3 billion letters is wrong, you could get diseases like cystic fibrosis.

Alledged harmful radiation by cell-phones

99% of human and chimp DNA are homologues (more or less)
Only 30000 genes, many less then thought, examples of other organisms (flowers) with many more genes)

and other trivia i can't remember just now.


Good stuff!!

I will definitely use the book analogy (if I may?) it just so happens the core text is just over 1000 pages!

Some of the other stuff is outside the LO's but thanks for the help.
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Reply #28 posted 02/04/05 3:25am

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Talk about da different genes amongst humanz geographically!! How one can trace where their ancestorz came from, the life they led and da food they ate n stuff like dat. I read "The Seven Daughters of Eve" and it was incredibly interestingz!! geek
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Reply #29 posted 02/04/05 3:32am

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lilmissmissy said:

Talk about da different genes amongst humanz geographically!! How one can trace where their ancestorz came from, the life they led and da food they ate n stuff like dat. I read "The Seven Daughters of Eve" and it was incredibly interestingz!! geek


Mitochondrial DNA, Got Yaz thumbs up!
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