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Reply #30 posted 01/31/05 1:57pm

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Freespirit said:

True to all this. My mother being addicted to various drugs all her life, including heroin when pregnant with me. Still to this day... she is doing crack and god/her know what else. My oldest sister and so many more I have no contact with... it's all the same fuckin road.

(we were well aware of their life styles, yet were removed out of my mother possession when young, me being the youngest) My oldest sister refused to stay with us, (my great aunt got full custody of us)... she went back to the environment where my mother lived. My grandmother raised her. Still... if you are near such environment in anyway... it will bring you down with their own life.

Get out Chris, I am sorry... but I have not seen anything positive in my life in seeing one stay in and try and help.

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I feel sick, I mean really nauseaded. I am kind of shaking even sharing all this... but I don't mind sharing.

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Just recently I have gained some contact with a cousin, my oldest niece whom is my oldest sister's daughter. My sister has done major time for cocaine possession and selling it. Mind you... $25,000,000 worth uncut. Yeah. Just recently and I mean this past Oct. she was involved with a "boyfriend" whom was hired as a hit-man to kill off a doctor in Tucson.

There is no helping these people no matter who they are...

So, I have chosen to walk away and live my life free of their influence. I can't live my life watching someone dead while living. I can't see all the children become fucked up the same.

Yes, Julie/Freespirit... has been through some time of her own and yes... I have seen much.

I choose to live different and I live a clean life. I give what I can to so many on so many levels... but if they are affiliated with the drug world, I am very quick to let go instantly.

Right or Wrong... I just don't want to be a part of that world, I have seen too much direct/personal bad within it all.

Few I have ever seen to change their life once deep.

FUCK!!!!


Awww. sweetie that's awful. hug I am glad that you have found positive ways of coping with this. Sometimes the best way to keep from it is to steer clear of it and not allow it into your life. I am the same way.

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Reply #31 posted 01/31/05 2:07pm

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TheRealFiness said:

man, how much is he "Fixing" cus if he's squeezing just for the pain..hes just being dependant and still not Kicking,he has to want to stop.


not sure... they are supposed to be adjusting the maethadone dosage to fix it, but that is a sign i should watch for....
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton
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Reply #32 posted 01/31/05 2:11pm

Freespirit

Chris, I know this is one of the few times I have no positive saying in the matter.

Absolutely none.

I do wish you luck with this hell of a matter and it is hell.

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I am a strong resilient individual to much that life brings... but all this truly makes me feel the weakest above all things, for it is very personal, it is family and they are a part of my being no matter the physical distance that I have. It hurts the most when it involves people whom we truly love, I am sorry to hear this is your situation as well.

I better be quiet now, for I have no encouraging words towards this matter... and I feel horrible that I don't.

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Reply #33 posted 01/31/05 2:19pm

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Not sure if this has been suggested above, but I have been reading more and more about the new form of rapid detox program disscussed in this article: http://www.boston.com/glo...052499.htm

I don't know much about this topic, but I thought I would throw this out there for your consideration. Good luck.
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Reply #34 posted 01/31/05 2:25pm

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okay, thank you everyone, just feeling a liittle overwhelmed and scared now. will come back to this late.r just need to think about otehr things for a bt
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Reply #35 posted 01/31/05 2:31pm

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Freespirit said:

Chris, I know this is one of the few times I have no positive saying in the matter.

Absolutely none.

I do wish you luck with this hell of a matter and it is hell.

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I am a strong resilient individual to much that life brings... but all this truly makes me feel the weakest above all things, for it is very personal, it is family and they are a part of my being no matter the physical distance that I have. It hurts the most when it involves people whom we truly love, I am sorry to hear this is your situation as well.

I better be quiet now, for I have no encouraging words towards this matter... and I feel horrible that I don't.

wilted

Honey, don't be too hard on yourself. We are after all human and no matter how much we may want it, we won't always have the answers. Believe me, I know..... Love you hug
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Reply #36 posted 01/31/05 3:00pm

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i know very little about this ... but, i do know that you are very loved here and im sure by those around you - so, if this is causing you pain, emotionally or otherwise... you need to move on sigh life is to short, we all have our own issues to deal with - sometimes taking on others can be to much for us....

my thoughts are with you sweetheart hug good luck with whatever you do rose
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Reply #37 posted 01/31/05 6:20pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Freespirit said:

Chris, I know this is one of the few times I have no positive saying in the matter.

Absolutely none.

I do wish you luck with this hell of a matter and it is hell.

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I am a strong resilient individual to much that life brings... but all this truly makes me feel the weakest above all things, for it is very personal, it is family and they are a part of my being no matter the physical distance that I have. It hurts the most when it involves people whom we truly love, I am sorry to hear this is your situation as well.

I better be quiet now, for I have no encouraging words towards this matter... and I feel horrible that I don't.

wilted

Honey, don't be too hard on yourself. We are after all human and no matter how much we may want it, we won't always have the answers. Believe me, I know..... Love you hug


exactly, hon. you are doing what is best. you cant solve everything, but i love ya for trying hug
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Reply #38 posted 01/31/05 8:39pm

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If he's intelligent and mature enough, he'll be able to kick it on his own. Just let him bottom out and find his own reason/motivation to quit. If he's immature and a flake, theres nothing you can really do.

Either way, you should probabbly just walk away from him until he cleans up. Don't get tangled up in that, because then youre going to feel equally responsible for his failures.
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Reply #39 posted 02/01/05 5:54am

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cborgman said:

dancinggyrl said:

okay, I don't have much experience with heroin addiction, I've grown up w/ alcohol addiction (which is very different, I know)- but I have always been taught to do the "tough love" thing. Having said that, how long has he been trying to quit? How long on Methadone? Has he been weening off of heroin-doing less of it but still buckling under the pain?


been trying to quit for a month and a half. on the methadone for about as long. been doing a lot less h, basically down to once a week or less, and only when the pain gets unbearable. he hates doing that, he wants to be off both the heroin and the methadone completely, but he hurts bad when the withdrawls get awful


I read some of the advice from others & completely agree on the idea of going to support groups-or getting some form of support from those who are trying to kick the habit or HAVE kicked the habit. From what you say, it seems as though he's more committed to quiting than I thought- which is good. Just remember that you have to take care of yourself, too. If it gets to the point where you feel your emotional and physical health (due to stress) are being overly compromised- you may need to make that tough choice. I'm sending good vibes your way & good luck hug
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Reply #40 posted 02/01/05 11:20am

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Wow, after reading all this... I just need to say something... but in fact I can't say that much. I've been through many things in life but I guess nothing can compare to the stories some of you are telling. In Belgium, heroin is not a very big problem. I mean, there are a few addicts, but you only see them on the street sometimes, begging, or some of them managed to quit and come talking about the past in your classroom. In Portugal, where my boyfriend is from, the problem is much worse. So since I met him the stories came a bit closer.

I can't give advice, I can only wish you strength, all of you. Be proud when you have found your own postitive way of living. And be proud to be so open about all this. Respect. That's all I can say...
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Reply #41 posted 02/01/05 11:50am

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I'm really sorry to hear all that, Chris. Addiction is a terribel thing, especially with a drug as wicked as heroin. I have a family member who is in a relationship with an addict, who has tried numerous times to break his addiction. She supports him as best she can, but as everyone has said, breaking his addiction has to be something he wants to do. I'm sure he realizes he has brought pain to those he loves, but the pull for the drug is stronger than he can bear right now.
And sometimes, tough love helps. If they realize that they might lose tehir family and loved ones due to drug use, it can be a catalyst to the start of recovery. I've seen the devastation and choas that drug addiction causes and it not pretty, so don't feel alone; you're not. hug
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Reply #42 posted 02/01/05 12:13pm

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You are taking on alot!

I wish you love, and strength! hug
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Reply #43 posted 02/01/05 2:48pm

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few years ago the universe delevered me to a junkie.igot her medical help,methadone and what not.unfortunatly i went down tring to save her.i had an emotional breakdown.best advice my expiernce can lend is...it's your friends fight you are just along for the ride to see that some hazards are missed,don't forget about your haealth;if needed seek professional physchological help to help get you through the hard times.i rember crying day and night none stop for 3 weeks trying to my friend,i far as i know she's fine now,but the emotional strain was too much to handle alone. heart hug
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Reply #44 posted 02/01/05 4:46pm

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for your boyfrined

http://www.na.org


for you

http://www.alanon.org


as someone who has survived addiction to Crystal Meth and seen a few people die from addiction and alocholism, only he can solve his issues if he choices to deal with them.

may God help you through this
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