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Mach

Da Vinci Workshop Discovered

Da Vinci Workshop Discovered in Italy -Researchers

Tue Jan 25, 3:14 PM ET


By Phil Stewart

ROME (Reuters) - A forgotten workshop of Leonardo da Vinci, complete with 500-year-old frescos and a secret room to dissect human cadavers, has been discovered in Florence, Italy, researchers said on Tuesday.


The find was made in part of the Santissima Annunziata convent, which let out rooms to artists centuries ago and where the likely muse of the Renaissance artist's masterwork, the Mona Lisa, may have worshipped.


"It's a bit absurd to think that, in 2005, we have found the studio of one of history's greatest artists. But that is what has happened," said Roberto Manescalchi, one of three researchers credited for this month's discovery.


"The proof is on the walls."


Frescos adorning part of the workshop were left undisturbed over the centuries and gradually forgotten. The wing of the convent was eventually split by a wall and is partially claimed today by the Institute of Military Geography.


In a slide-show presentation to media, Manescalchi pointed to one colorful fresco with a character conspicuously missing from the foreground.


The white silhouette bore a striking resemblance to da Vinci's painting of the archangel Gabriel, who appears in his "Annunciation" hanging in Florence's Uffizi gallery.


Manescalchi, who refers to the silhouette as "The Ghost," told reporters it was not clear to him whether the angel was removed or perhaps never completed.


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The walls were also adorned with paintings of birds, one of which strongly resembled a sketch from da Vinci's "Atlantic Codex," a 1,286-page collection of drawings and writings by the painter, sculptor, inventor and scientist.


Another painting was similar to a drawing in da Vinci's codex on the flight of birds.


Manescalchi speculated that da Vinci had assistants in his workshop and probably used a "secret" corner room for his dissections of human corpses, aimed at improving his understanding of anatomy.


While some experts have cautioned that it is still too early to say Manescalchi has found da Vinci's studio, the researcher, who made the discovery earlier this month, was convinced further research would back up his claims.


"It's easy to say 'It's not true'," he said.


"I didn't paint the Angel's ghost."


The find has sparked speculation that while da Vinci was using the workshop, he might have met the probable model for the Mona Lisa, Lisa Gherardini, wife of a Florentine merchant whose family had a chapel in the Santissima Annunziata.


Da Vinci is thought to have painted the Mona Lisa after he presumably left the convent, but Manescalchi said he was reviewing documents for evidence that the two met during his stay there from 1501 to 1502.





"We are researching," he said, adding that thousands of da Vinci's papers were still missing.

"This is still a fresh discovery."
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Reply #1 posted 01/25/05 4:40pm

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Reply #2 posted 01/25/05 4:54pm

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Mach said:

Da Vinci Workshop Discovered in Italy -Researchers

Tue Jan 25, 3:14 PM ET


By Phil Stewart

ROME (Reuters) - A forgotten workshop of Leonardo da Vinci, complete with 500-year-old frescos and a secret room to dissect human cadavers, has been discovered in Florence, Italy, researchers said on Tuesday.


The find was made in part of the Santissima Annunziata convent, which let out rooms to artists centuries ago and where the likely muse of the Renaissance artist's masterwork, the Mona Lisa, may have worshipped.


"It's a bit absurd to think that, in 2005, we have found the studio of one of history's greatest artists. But that is what has happened," said Roberto Manescalchi, one of three researchers credited for this month's discovery.


"The proof is on the walls."


Frescos adorning part of the workshop were left undisturbed over the centuries and gradually forgotten. The wing of the convent was eventually split by a wall and is partially claimed today by the Institute of Military Geography.


In a slide-show presentation to media, Manescalchi pointed to one colorful fresco with a character conspicuously missing from the foreground.


The white silhouette bore a striking resemblance to da Vinci's painting of the archangel Gabriel, who appears in his "Annunciation" hanging in Florence's Uffizi gallery.


Manescalchi, who refers to the silhouette as "The Ghost," told reporters it was not clear to him whether the angel was removed or perhaps never completed.


SECRET ROOM


The walls were also adorned with paintings of birds, one of which strongly resembled a sketch from da Vinci's "Atlantic Codex," a 1,286-page collection of drawings and writings by the painter, sculptor, inventor and scientist.


Another painting was similar to a drawing in da Vinci's codex on the flight of birds.


Manescalchi speculated that da Vinci had assistants in his workshop and probably used a "secret" corner room for his dissections of human corpses, aimed at improving his understanding of anatomy.


While some experts have cautioned that it is still too early to say Manescalchi has found da Vinci's studio, the researcher, who made the discovery earlier this month, was convinced further research would back up his claims.


"It's easy to say 'It's not true'," he said.


"I didn't paint the Angel's ghost."


The find has sparked speculation that while da Vinci was using the workshop, he might have met the probable model for the Mona Lisa, Lisa Gherardini, wife of a Florentine merchant whose family had a chapel in the Santissima Annunziata.


Da Vinci is thought to have painted the Mona Lisa after he presumably left the convent, but Manescalchi said he was reviewing documents for evidence that the two met during his stay there from 1501 to 1502.





"We are researching," he said, adding that thousands of da Vinci's papers were still missing.

"This is still a fresh discovery."



Wow! I love historical discoveries like this. There was a docu. series on about a month ago, mentioning of the like. It was called the "Medici: Godfathers Of The Renaissance". Captivating stuff thumbs up!


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Talking of dissecting..there was a programme on TV called Anatomy for Beginners..the audience looked like they were about to puke. I've never seen an audience look so nauseous.

feeling ill I dont blame them.
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Mach said:

... A forgotten workshop of Leonardo da Vinci, complete with 500-year-old frescos and a secret room to dissect human cadavers....



This just reminds me of a prog. I just watched tonight and yesterday about anatomy and dissection with one Dr. Gunther von Hagen (distant relative of one Dr. Hannibal 'the cannibal' Lecter..... me thinks confused )



Yes..... that is human skin, peeled off in it's entirety nod

ill .....but very interesting! smile


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Lleena said:

Talking of dissecting..there was a programme on TV called Anatomy for Beginners..the audience looked like they were about to puke. I've never seen an audience look so nauseous.

feeling ill I dont blame them.
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Bloody snap! biggrin

You posted that whilst I was searching for the image smile .....and STOLE MY THUNDER mad

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Reply #6 posted 01/25/05 5:18pm

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senik said:

Mach said:

... A forgotten workshop of Leonardo da Vinci, complete with 500-year-old frescos and a secret room to dissect human cadavers....



This just reminds me of a prog. I just watched tonight and yesterday about anatomy and dissection with one Dr. Gunther von Hagen (distant relative of one Dr. Hannibal 'the cannibal' Lecter..... me thinks confused )



Yes..... that is human skin, peeled off in it's entirety nod

ill .....but very interesting! smile




Oh my god!! You saw that too ill

The Doctor, he was odd wasn't he?..had this look about him eek
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senik said:

Lleena said:

Talking of dissecting..there was a programme on TV called Anatomy for Beginners..the audience looked like they were about to puke. I've never seen an audience look so nauseous.

feeling ill I dont blame them.
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Bloody snap! biggrin

You posted that whilst I was searching for the image smile .....and STOLE MY THUNDER mad

chair




cool

The whole set up looked like Dr Frankenstien's lab.
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Lleena said:


Oh my god!! You saw that too ill

The Doctor, he was odd wasn't he?..had this look about him eek



Did you see yesterday's "Movement" dissection? Crazy, crazy mad stuuf..... but I quite enjoyed it smile


There was definitely more empty seats in the studio as the dissections progressed lol



I know what you mean about his look though, it's that creepy black hat that he wears boxed



shocked


I went to see his "Body Works" (or Body Worlds) exhibition in Brick lane a couple of years ago. It was eerie.


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way cool! thanks mach
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senik said:

Lleena said:


Oh my god!! You saw that too ill

The Doctor, he was odd wasn't he?..had this look about him eek



Did you see yesterday's "Movement" dissection? Crazy, crazy mad stuuf..... but I quite enjoyed it smile


There was definitely more empty seats in the studio as the dissections progressed lol



I know what you mean about his look though, it's that creepy black hat that he wears boxed



shocked


I went to see his "Body Works" (or Body Worlds) exhibition in Brick lane a couple of years ago. It was eerie.




Definitely the hat nod This is the first one I've seen tonight. I can imagine what his exhibition was like if it was anything like the programme eek


I think by the last one..the audience will have all but gone lol
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Lleena said:


Definitely the hat nod This is the first one I've seen tonight. I can imagine what his exhibition was like if it was anything like the programme eek


I think by the last one..the audience will have all but gone lol



Can you imagine that bloke presenting the "Royal Institude Of Christmas Lectures" for the kids every Xmas lol

Mad crazy smile


Night Lleena wave


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senik said:

Lleena said:


Definitely the hat nod This is the first one I've seen tonight. I can imagine what his exhibition was like if it was anything like the programme eek


I think by the last one..the audience will have all but gone lol



Can you imagine that bloke presenting the "Royal Institude Of Christmas Lectures" for the kids every Xmas lol

Mad crazy smile


Night Lleena wave






Goodnight wave dont have nightmares eek
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Reply #13 posted 01/25/05 5:53pm

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WHOA. omg

You dont suppose he killed any subjects? hmmm

I'm intrigued. nod
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