VoicesCarry said:

But he is a dumbass. Gene Siskel wasn't my favorite critic, but at least he knew about film. If you wanna talk fan boy...that's Roeper in a nutshell.

VoicesCarry said:

but she doesn't have any!!!!!

RipHer2Shreds said:

They are all under the Cream Of The Crop section, no? I don't think sos was intimating they were fanboys.
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RipHer2Shreds said:

no, u misunderstood me...Rottentomatoes overall ratings (which Passions recieved 51% approval) is comprised of fanboys *and* legit filmcritics.....its "Cream of the Crop" only includes critics (such as Travers, Ebert and what not)....so, with that in mind.... Passions only recieved a 37% approval..far from a split decision..the movie was panned..accept it.

abierman said:

Maybe that's how he likes 'em.

All I know is that it's the only way to explain his reviews of Maid In Manhattan (***), The Cell (****) and Angel Eyes (***).

sosgemini said:

I accept nothing. Do you actually see films or just watch the Oscars and read Rotten Tomatoes? I'm not saying the film was great. I said it had its supporters and it split people. Case in point - this thread.

RipHer2Shreds said:

Actually it kind of proves sos' point. We have you, who didn't like it enough to nominate it, me and sos who hated it, and June7, who liked it.

A movie that splits reviewers and audiences to that extent doesn't really have a chance at the Oscars.
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RipHer2Shreds said:

umm yes...but when discussing a fims relevance you cant go on your own opinion to gauge how a film has resonated with the public...rottentomatoes, box office numbers and critical responce are all factors in determining the films impact...

you know that, you aint gotta go for a lowblow....but u claimed the film was recieved with mixed critical responce....which wasnt true....it was recieveed poorly by critics.....i still love you..

i liked Catwoman..Does that mean I can claim it was recieved by mixed responce from critics?

June7 said:

I can. Hollywood is a jealous bunch. They think it made more than enough bucks without Oscar coverage.

VoicesCarry said:

Roger has NEVER seen a pair he didn't like.

Stax said:

Hence his friendship with Russ Meyer.

Stax said:

Not even his own!

I wonder if he's seen Tara Reid's....

VoicesCarry said:

purplegypsy said:

It won't be all that interesting. I think Swank will win again and sadly, Benning will be one of those actors that never get their Oscar props. Bill Murrary and Angela Basset come to mind, although sadly, Basset hasn't been in anything worthy of watching in a while, has she? Put Paul Giamatti on that list! Not even a nod. I'd be shocked as hell now if Fox didn't win. There's no "indie" threat.
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VinnyM27 said:

She'll get it when she deserves it. She's been good and she was great in American Beauty, but she's been upstaged twice now by Hilary Swank. Fitting, I think, given the nature of her role in Being Julia.

purplegypsy said:

I think he was a shoe in. I haven't seen "The Avaitor" (nor do I care to) but it was really his movie. The surprise nod I see is Clint Eastwood! Really?

VoicesCarry said:

That was a dumb ass move. He couldn't seriously think he had a shot. All of those movies (like almost every other year) come out if not on Christmas Day, at least the fourth quarter!

you all really think Swank is going to win? No way...

big ole disclaimer for ripher2shreds...i have yet to see either Being or Million but....no way is Swank gonna be a double oscar winner just yet.....no way...

tell it not be true!!

abierman said:

None of those roles looked Oscar worthy and I think damn near all six (it only seemed like twenty) of those movies under preformed or tanked! The ride has to be over now!

RipHer2Shreds said:

When she deserves it? The Oscars are politics then performance. I'm not taking anything away from Swank's performances but how many times has the best preformance won, really? Just last year, I don't blame Bill Murray for walking out.

sosgemini said:

If that's the case, I hope it's Benning but everything says Swank and the Oscars tend never to surprise me that much. And has anyone even seen "Being Julia". I haven't. I didn't even know she had a movie out until she WON a Golden Globe. I must be slipping.

VinnyM27 said:

It's a movie that matronly women will like, from what I've read. Kind of campy - a biopic about some icon lost in the dustbin of history. You can be forgiven for not knowing about it - most people don't.

Consensus seems to be that she doesn't deserve it for this role.

VoicesCarry said:

Well she's never going to win. If I were her, I'd just stop trying and do a big budger "diaster" flick. Hell, Swank won and she did one! I won't be surprised if in a year or two we see Anette Benning, in space, fighting a virus.

VoicesCarry said:

im wondering if Moreno or Staunton have a chance for an upset..I just dont see Swank getting a second oscar so quickly...Your looking at Fields, Hepburn, Foster and a few others getting double lead female wins...Is Swank really in that category?

VinnyM27 said:

She's already done her share of crap. Ever see In Dreams?

Is anyone else thankful Meryl Streep wasn't nominated for her gawdawful turn in The Manchurian Candidate?

Wrong thread edit.
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sosgemini said:

x2

RipHer2Shreds said:

Exactly.

VoicesCarry said:

I loved "In Dreams" and even liked "What Planet Are You From?".