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PrintablePREDOMINANT said: Fauxie said: lol Byron. Perhaps predom was looking for the philosophy thread where only agreement is found?  I wasn't "looking" for anything on the thread. But disagreement doesn't make it philosophical. If anything I was looking for philosophy on the philosophy thread. But disagreement is a great deal of what makes philosophy, albeit sometimes objectively and playing devil's advocate. Without differing views there really can be no philosophy. Posit an argument, posit an alternative, and work through all the potentional permutations in search of some sort of logical clarity using arguments for each position. Disagreement is a prerequisite for philosophy. A good philosopher, if philosophizing alone, would always attempt to question their own ideas with as many potential opposing arguments as they could conceive of, even if their view was one held with great conviction, just to test the viability of their own philosophy. ... [Edited 1/28/05 7:19am] | |
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Fauxie said: Posit an argument, posit an alternative, and work through all the potentional permutations in search of some sort of logical clarity using arguments for each position. Disagreement is a prerequisite for philosophy. A good philosopher, if philosophizing alone, would always attempt to question their own ideas with as many potential opposing arguments as they could conceive of, even if their view was one held with great conviction, just to test the viability of their own philosophy.
I do this ALL the stinkin' time..  ...When I worked the night shift as a janitor working my way thru design school, I would constantly have those philosophical "debates" within my head to pass the time while I vacuumed and emptied trashcans...even if it was a philosophy that I'd come to believe in and accept as "truth", I'd take the devil's advocate side and purposefully try to find holes in my logic and reasoning.
I do that around here, too...(heh)..to the point that Aerogram said I have a Contrarian Evil Twin, because he picked up on the fact that I was indulging in philosophical debate a lot moreso than stating my own beliefs... As for your War & Peace post up above..lol..I like it.  I'll respond to that when I have more mental energy..  [Edited 1/28/05 10:42am] | |
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Byron said: Fauxie said: Posit an argument, posit an alternative, and work through all the potentional permutations in search of some sort of logical clarity using arguments for each position. Disagreement is a prerequisite for philosophy. A good philosopher, if philosophizing alone, would always attempt to question their own ideas with as many potential opposing arguments as they could conceive of, even if their view was one held with great conviction, just to test the viability of their own philosophy.
I do this ALL the stinkin' time.. ...When I worked the night shift as a janitor working my way thru design school, I would constantly have those philosophical "debates" within my head to pass the time while I vacuumed and emptied trashcans...even if it was a philosophy that I'd come to believe in and accept as "truth", I'd take the devil's advocate side and purposefully try to find holes in my logic and reasoning.
I do that around here, too...(heh)..to the point that Aerogram said I have a Contrarian Evil Twin, because he picked up on the fact that I was indulging in philosophical debate a lot moreso than stating my own beliefs... As for your War & Peace post up above..lol..I like it. I'll respond to that when I have more mental energy..
[Edited 1/28/05 10:42am] I've done the same thing while packing tapes in a factory. 
I'm sure if I go back to my post again this morning I'll find it to be a little incoherent, but never mind.  Time well spent! | |
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