HOMOSEXUALITY is neither socialistic or biological it's geographical....BLAME CANADA!!! It's K.D. LANG's fault.

Miguel

Ahem...

The only other model with any emperical support behind of homosexuality being genetic is the idea that intra-uterine hormone fluxuations may affect fetuses' brain development. Food intake can affect hormone levels. Famine years actually have a slightly higher pecentage of GLBT births, accordingly. Genes however could also cause hormone fluxuations, so go figure.

A common objection to the genetic hypothesis is "why doesen't it just die out since gays don't reproduce". This can be answered with some experimental findings showing that when females carry the genotype for a male homosexual orientation, they simply end up being *even more* attracted to males than the rest of the heterosexual population. They are, in effect, "hyper-heterosexual". Thus, they make more babies than normal, ergo, the genotype is perpetuated.

Another possibility, and one that I sometimes entertain, is that, quite simply, The human brain is a complex organ in a complex organism, and sexual attraction is a difficult feature to construct reliably each time. It is possible that more or less random events in the internal development of the brain sometimes result in atypical structures which correspond to atypical sexual orientations.

A simple analogy is the growth patterns of trees. Even genetically identical trees will have differently-shaped branches. Many factors contribute to these differences - accidents in the formation of the seed, the randomness of Brownian motion, slightly different soil, wind, water, and lighting conditions, etc. As a result, one tree may end up with 49 apples, the one next to it, with 51. So in conclusion, purely biological.

I'm certain that it is usually a biological thing. I cant be bothered explaining why but I will tell you that it is based on my own personal observations which have no scientific basis whatsoever.

I'm certain that it is usually a biological thing. I cant be bothered explaining why but I will tell you that it is based on my own personal observations which have no scientific basis whatsoever.

Do u deny socialisation as a factor?

Do u deny socialisation as a factor?

This is what I think. Nothing can turn you gay. Nobody, no nothing, no how. You either are, or you're not. Now, i can see if I grew up in a place where there was NOTHING but gay men, and be the only straight one, so i might grow up thinking that i'm supposed to be with a man. But then, at the same time, i see a woman and i'm attracted to her and want to have sex with her. Nothing can cloud your sexuality, except yourself. I grew up my thinking and being taught that i'm supposed to be with a woman and not with a man. But then around adolescence, my homosexuality set it. I'll never forget. One day in gym class, this guy was running around with his shirt off and his chest was SO damn nice...and i thought i was wrong for thinking that, because of what I was brought up to believe. Then i realized that i can't stop myself from being gay, no matter what I or anyone did or said, or what society says, or what my family says. So I think that in the end, it doesn't. I believe it can cloud your judgement about yourself and who you think you are, but it doesn't turn straight people gay, or gay people straight.

Gay 101 is now in session.

Miguel

Oh sis, it's BEEN in session. Bout time we started schoolin' mufuckers.

I think it's something you're born with. Certain traits or behaviours, for some people anyway, I think are learned. For example, there are some genuine flaming queens out there, but there are also some gay men who will "act gay" because they think they're supposed to.

The same can be said about any minority, really. Tell a person they are something often enough and sooner or later they'll believe it.

Do u deny socialisation as a factor?

This is what I think. more stuff, which i agree with I believe it can cloud your judgement about yourself and who you think you are, but it doesn't turn straight people gay, or gay people straight.

wait. i might be thinking about gekkos. which are the lizards and which are the people who live to the north of me?

This is what I think. more stuff, which i agree with I believe it can cloud your judgement about yourself and who you think you are, but it doesn't turn straight people gay, or gay people straight.

Can I make a case here for losing the straight-word? It implies gay people are not-normal.

Hi Dad!

I don't think this is an appropriate topic for conversation.

This is what I think. more stuff, which i agree with I believe it can cloud your judgement about yourself and who you think you are, but it doesn't turn straight people gay, or gay people straight.