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Thread started 01/20/05 8:50pm

Fauxie

Homosexuality - socialisation or biology?

Where do u stand on this? Do u think homosexuality is a result of socialisation or just plain biology? Or, perhaps, more likely a combination of the two? To what extent do u think each plays a part?

My mother used to call me Nicola and make me wear dresses until I was 17, something I still continue to this day, along with having sex with men in the bum, and yet I'm 100% heterosexual, so go figure. confused
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Reply #1 posted 01/20/05 8:51pm

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Reply #2 posted 01/20/05 8:53pm

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I think some people are born that way and there is nothing wrong with that. I know some people and they are so sweet rose
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Reply #3 posted 01/20/05 8:54pm

Fauxie

luv4u said:

I think some people are born that way and there is nothing wrong with that. I know some people and they are so sweet rose



I know. Homosexuals can be quite cool, actually. nod

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Reply #4 posted 01/20/05 8:57pm

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Fauxie said:

luv4u said:

I think some people are born that way and there is nothing wrong with that. I know some people and they are so sweet rose



I know. Homosexuals can be quite cool, actually. nod

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Reply #5 posted 01/20/05 9:00pm

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Anxiety said:

Fauxie said:




I know. Homosexuals can be quite cool, actually. nod

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shhh



It's true. I met one once and he was smart too. nod
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Reply #6 posted 01/20/05 9:01pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:



shhh



It's true. I met one once and he was smart too. nod


dammit

now everyone's gonna want to hang out with us. mad
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Reply #7 posted 01/20/05 9:03pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

I'm speaking for myself and myself only. I was born this way. I've know since I was 5 years old when I had a crush on Mickey of The Little Rascals fame.
(Robert Blake eek ).

And believe it or not I know nice gay people and AS**OLE gay people(men & women). I know gay people that have no sense of style. The reason I mention this is that people always say oh they're all so nice and fun and blah blah blah. Sometimes it bugs me when people say that because, although it's a positive message it is also not accurate.

Miguel
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Reply #8 posted 01/20/05 9:05pm

Fauxie

Anxiety said:

Fauxie said:




It's true. I met one once and he was smart too. nod


dammit

now everyone's gonna want to hang out with us. mad



doh! Sorry.

I had a black friend once too and he was nice also.
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Reply #9 posted 01/20/05 9:06pm

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Anxiety said:

Fauxie said:




It's true. I met one once and he was smart too. nod


dammit

now everyone's gonna want to hang out with us. mad


sad
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/05 9:07pm

charlottegelin

they (scientists/biologists) are working to prove it is purely biological, the embryo being exposed to certain levels of testosterone while in the womb. Apparently if the mother suffers extreme stress levels while pregnant this can cause an overproduction of testosterone and it affects the foetal brain - well that's how I understood this theory anyway.

They have managed to prove that autistic kids are not the product of refrigerator (ie. cold and distant) mothers - as believed before the 1950s.

So you can't blame/thank your mum - it's not her fault.
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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I'm speaking for myself and myself only. I was born this way. I've know since I was 5 years old when I had a crush on Mickey of The Little Rascals fame.
(Robert Blake eek ).

And believe it or not I know nice gay people and AS**OLE gay people(men & women). I know gay people that have no sense of style. The reason I mention this is that people always say oh they're all so nice and fun and blah blah blah. Sometimes it bugs me when people say that because, although it's a positive message it is also not accurate.

Miguel
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Any sort of group of people you have the bad and the good.
Grammar edit
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Reply #12 posted 01/20/05 9:08pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:



dammit

now everyone's gonna want to hang out with us. mad


sad


next thing, you all will want access to our secret underground city that no non-gay person is ever supposed to know abou--omfg


SHIT! mad
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Reply #13 posted 01/20/05 9:08pm

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charlottegelin said:

they (scientists/biologists) are working to prove it is purely biological, the embryo being exposed to certain levels of testosterone while in the womb. Apparently if the mother suffers extreme stress levels while pregnant this can cause an overproduction of testosterone and it affects the foetal brain - well that's how I understood this theory anyway.

They have managed to prove that autistic kids are not the product of refrigerator (ie. cold and distant) mothers - as believed before the 1950s.

So you can't blame/thank your mum - it's not her fault.


I don't believe that shake
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Reply #14 posted 01/20/05 9:08pm

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I think it's something you're born with. Certain traits or behaviours, for some people anyway, I think are learned. For example, there are some genuine flaming queens out there, but there are also some gay men who will "act gay" because they think they're supposed to.

The same can be said about any minority, really. Tell a person they are something often enough and sooner or later they'll believe it.
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Reply #15 posted 01/20/05 9:09pm

charlottegelin

Fauxie said:

Anxiety said:



dammit

now everyone's gonna want to hang out with us. mad



doh! Sorry.

I had a black friend once too and he was nice also.

yes black people are really nice as long as they are not homosexuals or jewish
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Anxiety said:

luv4u said:



sad


next thing, you all will want access to our secret underground city that no non-gay person is ever supposed to know abou--omfg


SHIT! mad


Can I have Exclusive Trusted Member status???
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Reply #17 posted 01/20/05 9:10pm

MIGUELGOMEZ

Anxiety said:

luv4u said:



sad


next thing, you all will want access to our secret underground city that no non-gay person is ever supposed to know abou--omfg


SHIT! mad



XANADU! mad


Miguel
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MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #18 posted 01/20/05 9:11pm

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charlottegelin said:

Fauxie said:




doh! Sorry.

I had a black friend once too and he was nice also.

yes black people are really nice as long as they are not homosexuals or jewish


That's not nice to say mad
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Reply #19 posted 01/20/05 9:11pm

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luv4u said:

Anxiety said:



next thing, you all will want access to our secret underground city that no non-gay person is ever supposed to know abou--omfg


SHIT! mad


Can I have Exclusive Trusted Member status???


i'm screwed.

i'm gonna go home tonight and all my deee-lite albums are gonna be replaced with creed CDs. disbelief
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Reply #20 posted 01/20/05 9:12pm

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luv4u said:

charlottegelin said:


yes black people are really nice as long as they are not homosexuals or jewish


That's not nice to say mad

I think she was joking!
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Reply #21 posted 01/20/05 9:12pm

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Anxiety said:

luv4u said:



sad


next thing, you all will want access to our secret underground city that no non-gay person is ever supposed to know abou--omfg


SHIT! mad


So that is where the bomb shelter is! mad
a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on
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Reply #22 posted 01/20/05 9:12pm

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Anxiety said:

luv4u said:



Can I have Exclusive Trusted Member status???


i'm screwed.

i'm gonna go home tonight and all my deee-lite albums are gonna be replaced with creed CDs. disbelief


comfort
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Reply #23 posted 01/20/05 9:12pm

charlottegelin

luv4u said:

charlottegelin said:


yes black people are really nice as long as they are not homosexuals or jewish


That's not nice to say mad

I'm sorry biggrin sarcasm doesn't work with the written word
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Reply #24 posted 01/20/05 9:14pm

charlottegelin

althom said:

luv4u said:



That's not nice to say mad

I think she was joking!

bloody canadians! lol
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Reply #25 posted 01/20/05 9:14pm

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althom said:

luv4u said:



That's not nice to say mad

I think she was joking!


It may not come across as a joke to people who belong to those groups. hmph!
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Reply #26 posted 01/20/05 9:15pm

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charlottegelin said:

althom said:


I think she was joking!

bloody canadians! lol

I think our humour is a little to dry for some people. lol
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Reply #27 posted 01/20/05 9:15pm

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charlottegelin said:

luv4u said:



That's not nice to say mad

I'm sorry biggrin sarcasm doesn't work with the written word


comfort You are forgiven hug
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Reply #28 posted 01/20/05 9:16pm

charlottegelin

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charlottegelin said:


bloody canadians! lol

I think our humour is a little to dry for some people. lol

bloody aussies biggrin
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Reply #29 posted 01/20/05 9:16pm

Fauxie

meow85 said:

I think it's something you're born with. Certain traits or behaviours, for some people anyway, I think are learned. For example, there are some genuine flaming queens out there, but there are also some gay men who will "act gay" because they think they're supposed to.

The same can be said about any minority, really. Tell a person they are something often enough and sooner or later they'll believe it.


U said they're born with it, but your last paragraph highlights socialisation as a cause.
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