IstenSzek said:

Well, you are.

Byron said:

Well said Byron.

HOw can you NOT take into the account the mental capacity of a child..you should!

I just went to the store to get some food and there was this
absolutely revolting child from hell.

Whilst I was getting my stuff, I had already spotted her as
she ramshacked through the store, pulling stuff out of the
isles and screaming her head off.

Mother, fcuz, was a doozer, steady snoozing her way through
the grocery shopping. an autopilot

Just my luck they ended up being right in front of me at the
cash register. Mom was unloading her shoppingcart of it's
389 items, one item a time, a minute a piece.

So this little devil spawn first became and then she
started looking for something to divert her attention since
mom was obviously not listening.

The object of her newfound affection turned out to be me. As
I felt goosebumps rise on my back and the hair stand up on the
back of my neck, this little psycho eyed me with an look
and then proceded to kick me in the ankle with the force of a
grown man.

I shouted "Hey, don't do that" as I grabbed my ankle and then
she kicked my other leg. It was like a bad cartoon man.

Mom pretended not to notice. So I pulled her jacket and said
"hey, listen your kid is kicking me pretty fucking devilishly
in the shins, aren't you gonna say nothing?"

mom just went

"I didn't see anything" was the replied that came from this
wombat of a woman. Then she just turned again and kept slugging
her stuff onto the conveyor belt.

all the time, the kid just stood there being

As soon as she'd turned around, the kid decided it would be fun
to tick me off some more. So she spat out her gum into her hand
and proceded to push it into my jacket along with a hand full
of her devil phlegm.

Inside my head a voice was now steadily and loudly yelling at me
"SERENITY NOW - SERENITY NOW - SERENITY NOW"

I felt myself going

So I tried to reason with her once more and said "please, don't
do that, I haven't done anything to upset you so why do you hit
me like that and now you put gum on my jacket. I think that is
a very nasty thing to do and I don't like it".

her double reply to this:



I tried to control my anger, but alas, it was too late and I got
a big bag of sesame bunns from my cart and gave the little fuckster
a right big thump on the side of the head, which swerved her off
balance and made her land on the floor.

There, I thought, that will teach you. But no, to my surprise
she didn't heave a sigh but simply got up and spat at me!!!



a big fat wallop of spit dripping down my stomach.

She quickly turned around to face her mom, waiting for me to yell,
fcuz and then to act all innocent as if she'd done nothing.

But I said to myself, "alright you little devil's bitch, I can
play that game if you can". And so I very carefully grabbed a
strand of her hair, about 6 or 7 hairs in total and janked them
out of the back of her head.



She belted out so loud at this unexpected strike that the whole
damn store stopped breathing.

Except for her mother who just went

When mom had finally payed for the shopping, the kid turned to
me one final time and said "you are a big homo"


I just got back home and I'm still telling myself "SERENITY NOW"
damn I should have just got a big pot of vegetables or ketchup
or something and thrown it all over the little psycho.

Is that wrong of me? And was it wrong to punch her upside the
head with a bag of breadrolls?

I hope not because somewhere deep inside I'm still wishing I'd
have hit her with a frozen leg of lamb


[Edited 1/20/05 10:34am]

I called my parents by their names, was spanked maybe twice ever, was grounded maybe 4 times (each time the grounding was lifted after an hour because my dad felt bad), never really had any punishment, never had a curfew, and I always got straight A's- I even went to many academic competitions including the Math Bowl, the Creative Writing Contest, and won the county Spelling Bee. I was Respected and therefore gave respect in kind- without having my spirit broken. Being respected made me respect myself and that made me behave better, and made me so grateful that I wanted to thank them by rising to the occasion. Remember that more than just about anything, kids want to be adults, or at least treated like adults.
It's a shame when people don't see how they can have the best of both worlds in a situation, especially when it involves innocent children at their mercy.

Have you ever thought about how European children tend to be more mature than American kids? Don't get me wrong, I love America and everything, but kids are given more respect and given more freedoms at earlier ages. There is psychology you can work with.


P.S. This is not a question or argument pointed to anyone in particular.
[Edited 1/20/05 22:06pm]

Part of why I watch Supernanny is to understand why these kids act this way and how to react. I don't understand my brother & sister in law's parenting style.. at all. My niece is very intelligent but can be a downright brat sometimes and *I* want to say something. She used to bite kids at day care.. and totally abuses the family dog. My brother tells her in a stern voice NOT to hurt the dog, but she giggles and does it anyway. ANd continues to do it. I want to hit my niece and show her how it feels! But my brother says hitting her would only reinforce bad behavior. So how do I deal?

Shaming used to be big when I was a kid.. my mom used to count to three... at 2 1/2 I was behaving alright. I asked her the other day.. "what happened at three? did u ever spank me?" she said, that's the sign of a good parent - you don't remember if i spanked you" I was sure afraid of getting ot three though.. hmmm, i wonder if parents now are spread too thin that they don't give enough attention to the kids, causing them to act up?

anemone said:

With a child who is so spoiled and has no regard for life or respect for her elders I see NO problem with a bit of corporal punnishment so she can see what it feels like. For any child to be able to hit and physically abuse others with NO consequence is a dis-service to that child and to society. In this life one should live by "do onto others as you would have done to you" and if repeated verbal teachings are not working to combat physical violence...well...then guess what...it's time for that child to feel what he or she is dishing out.

(For the record: I was never spanked as a child, but I never needed to be. I respected my parents and others.)