sosgemini said:

Now, wait a second. The pilot with the tacked on ending was theatrically-released in the UK. That's the one I've seen. I never heard of a second alternative ending with Leo as the killer...and I've never heard Lynch or Frost ever mention it. And I've read TONS of "Peaks" books.

Case said:

Me neither. But the only version of the pilot I HAVE seen is the one released on VHS, and it had Cooper's dream sequence. It ended with Mrs. Palmer remembering seeing Bob behind Laura's bed.

And I agree that Lynch is an awesome director, but some of his films are too far out there for me. "Elephant Man" is awesome, but "Lost Highway" and "Mulholland Drive" (at least the last 20 minutes) allude me.

I thought Hannibal too ....ooh and the villian in Kiss the Girls (whatever his name was)

sosgemini said:

You guys are scaring me. I'm totally in on watching the 1st season. I feel like pulling them out and watching them.

Miguel

subhuman09 said:

Alan.. I love this actor! He's great and has a beautiful voice!

subhuman09 said:

This Guy

Ben Kingsley in 'Sexy Beast'

That bloody vampire in Salem's lot! He had these two huge fangs at the front, most movie vampires have them at the side. anyhow, James Mason was also pretty sinister in that. It is a great movie. One of my favourite Vampire films.

Lleena said:

AsianBomb777 said:

She was hell bent wasn't she. I hated her.





I didn't find him scary, more cute.. But then I like Gary Oldman

Cloudbuster said:

I'll bet he drooled a lot

Lleena said:

With those teeth getting in the way of him shutting his mouth, I guess so.

Lleena said:

Lleena, for a made-for-tv-movie it was pretty scary. There's a scene where someone (forgot who) finds the coffin in the basement of the Vampire place. There's a light swinging back and forth, everytime the light hits the vampire he's getting closer. (or she) As you can tell I can't remember details. The whole Danny Glickman at the window, scary as hell. So's the part with the guy in the rocking chair. Creepy

Miguel

I do not feel like scrolling.

Did someone post the villain from my favest movie ever yet?

Brilliant portrayal by F. Murray Abraham.

subhuman09 said:

Yay...i said YAY...OH YEAH WOWBOBWOW...Thanks for posting this!!!!

Case said:

Because they didn't know if was going to be picked up as a series or not.

HamsterHuey said:

Can't believe I didn't think of him. My favorite movie ever (except for "The Color Purple" ).

Case said:

Leo was never the killer. One pilot "solved it" with a dream and the other was open ended.

taken from twinpeaks.org FAQ...it's a little complicated as to what they actually did.

E10. What is the "European" version of the pilot?

Before TP was sold to ABC as a series, Lynch/Frost raised
money to finance the production of the pilot episode by
signing a contract with Warner Home Video. The contract
gave Warner Home Video the rights to sell the pilot episode
as a movie on video in Europe (not knowing whether the pilot
would result in a series, Warner wanted to ensure they could
make their money back.) In order to sell it as a movie, the
contract stipulated that the pilot must stand on its own and
have a "closed ending" where the murder of Laura Palmer was
resolved.

Lynch/Frost had planned for and expected the pilot to be
picked up and turned into a series, and thus had not written
such a resolution for the pilot. When, during the filming
of the pilot, they were reminded of their contractual
obligation, they filmed the ending described below and gave
Warner Home Video their "standalone" European movie, even
though the ending did not make much sense and does not jibe
with events in the TV series.

Parts of the European movie ending were used later in edited
form for the dream sequence at the end of episode 2. (In
fact, you will notice that the summary of his dream that
Cooper gives Lucy and Harry at the beginning of episode 3
includes events that are portrayed in the European pilot
ending, but not in Cooper's dream as shown in episode 2!)

Lynch thinks the famous scene in the Red Room is one of his
best pieces of work, and that is probably one reason why he
chose to include it as the final scene of episode 2. The
original script for episode 2 is almost a verbatim copy of
the European movie ending, including even more of it than is
in the broadcast version. The copied parts were edited to
make it clear that Cooper is having a dream/vision, rather
than actually experiencing the events. So the reaction cuts
of Truman, etc. in the European movie ending, are replaced
in episode 2 by shots of Coop tossing and turning in his
sleep.

When ABC bought the series, the video rights to the
broadcast episodes went to Worldvision (a division of
Spelling Entertainment, which had been closely affiliated
with ABC), but the video rights to the pilot remained with
Warner Home Video. This is why only the European movie
version of the pilot is available commercially. Making
'lemonade out of a lemon', Warner Home Video marketed their
version of the pilot as providing an "alternate resolution"
to Laura's murder than that provided in the TV series.

Although a great deal of the footage from the European movie
ending was incorporated into the TV series, most in the TP
fan community feel the ending, while interesting as an
historical artifact, is not germane to the "real" TP story
as developed in the TV series.

The European movie ending should probably be avoided if you
are watching the TV series for the first time. There is a
"catch 22", though: you should see the pilot before watching
the first TV episode for important background information
and context, but the broadcast version of the pilot is not
available commercially (see question G4). If you cannot
borrow a copy of the broadcast pilot version from someone,
you can easily "edit" the video version, while watching it,
as follows:

- About 90 minutes into the movie, after Sheriff Truman
introduces Cooper to Lucy's nightly donut spread, and the
jail scene with James, Bobby, and Mike, there is a scene
where the Sheriff visits Josie.

"It must have happened right around this time yesterday,"
Truman says to Josie.

"I'm afraid," Josie says.

Next there is a shot of the traffic light, blowing in the
breeze.

- Stop the movie at the next scene where we see Laura's
mother sitting by herself on the sofa, smoking. Up until
this point, the movie and broadcast pilot are identical.

- There is only one additional scene in the broadcast pilot
not shown in the movie: Laura's mother has a vision of a
gloved hand digging the heart necklace from the ground where
Donna and James buried it (you'll know the necklace I mean
when you've seen the rest).

Now, for those who have seen the series, but not the
"European" version of the pilot, here is a short description
of the added scenes:

- Sarah remembers seeing BOB crouching at the foot of
Laura's bed that morning. She screams and tells Leland what
she remembered.

- There is a scene of Lucy and Andy getting ready for bed
(!). Leland calls Lucy, tells her about Sarah's sudden
memory, and asks her where the Sheriff is. Lucy calls the
Sheriff in his cruiser. He tells her to have Hawk meet him
at the Palmer's house to make a sketch of the man Sarah
remembered.

- Agent Cooper, asleep in his hotel room, is awakened by the
phone. Mike, the one-armed man, is on the other end, and
tells Cooper that the man who killed Laura is at the
hospital. Then Lucy calls Cooper and tells him what is
happening at the Palmer house. Cooper asks Lucy to tell the
Sheriff to bring the sketch and meet him at the hospital.

- Cooper and the Sheriff find Mike at the hospital. Mike
recites the poem and his confession (from Cooper's dream in
episode #2). Cooper asks Mike to identify the killer from
the sketch. He does and tells them BOB is in the basement
of the hospital.

- They find BOB kneeling next to a circle of 12 burning
candles. He invites them in, asks if Mike is with them,
repeats some of the dialogue from Cooper's dream in episode
2, including "Catch you with my death bag".

- The Sheriff asks BOB what the letters were going to spell,
and BOB replies:

BOB: Robert. That's my proper name. Theresa's was with a
T.
Cooper: That's right.
BOB: You may think I've gone insane, but I promise you: I
will kill again!
Mike runs into room and yells: Like hell!

- Mike shoots BOB twice. BOB crumples to the floor. Mike
falls to the floor in agony.

- Cooper says "Make a wish" and the candles are blown out.

- Cut to the Red Room. Caption says: Twenty-five year later

- Rest of scene is identical to Red Room scene of Cooper's
dream in episode 2. As the Little Man dances, the end
credits run.

As mentioned above, this ending does NOT relate to the
action in the other episodes of the series (as far as we can
tell), except for the parts that appear in Cooper's dream in
episode 2.

bkw said:

That's who I picked, but I couldn't find a good pic yet- nice one!

superspaceboy said:

Thanks for that. I've only seen the one with the tacked on ending; I've never seen the pilot that actually aired. I hope that's the one that'll be released, with the dream-sequence ending presented as an extra.

Xagain said:

i swear i swear i swear.... oh well..maybe i was wrong....

Xagain said:

Same for me (not The Color Purple, though)

A few things regardgint the Twin Peaks tidbits:

Ronnete Pulaski survived the run of the series, appearing in the final episode (Cooper has her smell some oil obtained from the entrance to the Black Lodge by the Log Lady).

The "Leo as Killer" thing was never part of any version of the pilot. In fact, the only depiction of Leo as Laura's killer was on the episode of Saturday Night Live that KM guest hosted (Leo was played by Chris Farley).

An interesting side-note: There was an alternate scene filmed of Maddy's death...with Ben Horne as the killer. This was filmed as a way of preventing leaks (if the wrong footage got out to the public, then the identity of Laura's killer wouldn't be revealed. If the footage of Leeland got out, they could then change the storyline to have Ben as the killer).

JediMaster said:

Kewlll

Those TP dvds can't come out soon enough. I'm Jonesing for it because of this thread.

Xagain said:

Oh, me too!!! LOVE Peaks!!! I still wanna see a 2 disc Fire Walk With Me
disc with the deleted scenes:







Here's a great Lynch-fan website you might dig: http://www.dugpa.com/

Hey, Everybody! Thanx for all your replies!

I need more villains!

(I can't believe that nobody has mentioned our idol: "Gollum"! )

Count Olaf!!!

Ladies & Gents, Girls & Boys, here's my favourite ONE! The LEGEND:



Gollum themselves!

glamslamkid said:

Dreaming, ha?